Ukraine

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Russia doesn't need artillery to wipe out cities. They have enough missles to wipe out not only the cities but the entire country as well. Putin wants to take what he wants with as little damage to infrastructure as possible so he doesn't have to pay to fix it.

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Russia doesn't need artillery to wipe out cities. They have enough missles to wipe out not only the cities but the entire country as well. Putin wants to take what he wants with as little damage to infrastructure as possible so he doesn't have to pay to fix it.

You tube etc clearly shows the samage to infastructure

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Yes but the damage is minor compared to what he could have done. Don't let the media fool you that Russian troops are running away and shooting their commanders and they have no ammunition or whatever. Russia has a very powerful military.

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Although they may have done little damage to infrastructure, but The Russians retreated from Bucha leaving behind over 300 dead civilians, some with their hands tied behind their back and others shot in the back of the head. Some bodies reportedly were booby trapped with land mines. I watched the videos on Sky News which I found disturbing. The videos looked legitimate to me; however, the Russians claimed they were staged. To me, pictures speak a thousand words.

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Although they may have done little damage to infrastructure, but The Russians retreated from Bucha leaving behind over 300 dead civilians, some with their hands tied behind their back and others shot in the back of the head. Some bodies reportedly were booby trapped with land mines. I watched the videos on Sky News which I found disturbing. The videos looked legitimate to me; however, the Russians claimed they were staged. To me, pictures speak a thousand words.

And what is anyone going to do about it? Nothing can be done.

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In some areas nothing is left undamaged every building every bridge every airfeild etc is destroyed. Maripuol is a wateland / graveyard for instance .
War crimes should be treated as such .

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And what is anyone going to do about it? Nothing can be done.

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ussian troops retreating from Kyiv have left behind a landscape of atrocities. The mayor of Motyzhyn, a suburb of the capital, was found blindfolded and shot, apparently by Russian forces, along with her family. An eye witness told Human Rights Watch, a charity, that Russian soldiers threw a smoke grenade into a basement in Vorzel, near Irpin, then shot a woman and her child as they emerged into the light. Another saw soldiers round up five men in nearby Bucha, forced to kneel and pull their shirts over their heads, and shoot one in the head before 40 witnesses. In all, said Ukraine’s prosecutor-general on April 3rd, 410 civilians had been killed around Kyiv. Many more will be found.

The renewed evidence of Russian atrocities has produced renewed condemnation. “Genocide”, Ukraine’s president and Poland’s prime minister called it. The American president, Joe Biden, said what had happened in Bucha was a war crime and that Vladimir Putin, Russia’s president, should face an international tribunal for it. The un secretary general asked for another investigation (several are already under way), and Ukraine said it would set one up with the eu. The former un chief prosecutor for war crimes in Yugoslavia and Rwanda demanded that an international arrest warrant be issued against Mr Putin. For its part, Russia said the whole thing was faked, then blamed the Ukrainians for it, demanding a un Security Council meeting to discuss the “heinous provocation of Ukrainian radicals in Bucha”. It is possible there were or will be atrocities by Ukrainian forces, though not on the same scale. But Ukraine will, presumably, investigate them, unlike Russia. In this particular case, the decomposition of the victims’ bodies shows they had been killed long before Ukrainian forces recaptured Bucha.