May want to try hanging. Came across this web site on another forum: www.peweights.com. Looks like a 10 0z wedge weight might be a simple way to try using weights. However, my head's diameter is below 1.25" Would this be a problem or can I build up the diameter by using tape?
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Valued Member of 12+ years at the PEGym12/'09 (start) NBP EL - 4.5, EG - 4.4
12/11 NBPEL - 5.1, MSEG - 5
01/13 NBPEL - 5.35, MSEG - 5.1
01/14 NBPEL - 5.35, MSEG - 5.25
01/16 NBPEL - 5.4, MSEG - 5.5
Fat Pad = 1+/-
Real cars have two seats. Everything else is a bus.
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You don't hang from the glans, so the size is irrelevant. The forced of the weight goes to your shaft.Originally posted by not2big View PostHowever, my head's diameter is below 1.25" Would this be a problem or can I build up the diameter by using tape?
I don't know what a wedge is. I think weight plates & fishing weights work perfectly.
Setting Up Your Weights:
I explained in detail in both hanging 101 & here.
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Blink2000, I would appreciate it if you, or anyone else, would look into the referenced web site and check out the weights under products and you will see what I am talking about. I checked out the" setting up you weights" and these applications don't appear to apply to the referenced weights.Valued Member of 12+ years at the PEGym12/'09 (start) NBP EL - 4.5, EG - 4.4
12/11 NBPEL - 5.1, MSEG - 5
01/13 NBPEL - 5.35, MSEG - 5.1
01/14 NBPEL - 5.35, MSEG - 5.25
01/16 NBPEL - 5.4, MSEG - 5.5
Fat Pad = 1+/-
Real cars have two seats. Everything else is a bus.
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Originally posted by not2big View PostBlink2000, I would appreciate it if you, or anyone else, would look into the referenced web site and check out the weights under products and you will see what I am talking about. I checked out the" setting up you weights" and these applications don't appear to apply to the referenced weights.
Those are golf weights, in spite of what they say, with the prices jacked through the ceiling. You can get golf weights for a fraction of the cost if you wish to go that route. One of the other long time posters on the site uses the golf weights, Sayan (my spelling may be off).Start 2009/06/24 bpel 5.5 eg 4.75
2009/08/26 bpel 5.5 eg 5.25
2010/01/05 bpel 6.12"
2010/08/01 bpel 6.25
Goal 7"
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Thanks for the info. I think I will try to find some golf weighst to try and test if they work. The ones on the web site seem to be a refined version made out of better material and shaped for comfort.Originally posted by frb3 View PostThose are golf weights, in spite of what they say, with the prices jacked through the ceiling. You can get golf weights for a fraction of the cost if you wish to go that route. One of the other long time posters on the site uses the golf weights, Sayan (my spelling may be off).Valued Member of 12+ years at the PEGym12/'09 (start) NBP EL - 4.5, EG - 4.4
12/11 NBPEL - 5.1, MSEG - 5
01/13 NBPEL - 5.35, MSEG - 5.1
01/14 NBPEL - 5.35, MSEG - 5.25
01/16 NBPEL - 5.4, MSEG - 5.5
Fat Pad = 1+/-
Real cars have two seats. Everything else is a bus.
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I found some posts by saiyan22 with a 9+" dick who mentioned adding Monty's peweights to his routine. Seems like a good recommendation to me. Saiyan, however, has done extensive research into stretching techniques and has developed a very sophisticated routine based on his research.Originally posted by frb3 View PostOne of the other long time posters on the site uses the golf weights, Sayan (my spelling may be off).Valued Member of 12+ years at the PEGym12/'09 (start) NBP EL - 4.5, EG - 4.4
12/11 NBPEL - 5.1, MSEG - 5
01/13 NBPEL - 5.35, MSEG - 5.1
01/14 NBPEL - 5.35, MSEG - 5.25
01/16 NBPEL - 5.4, MSEG - 5.5
Fat Pad = 1+/-
Real cars have two seats. Everything else is a bus.
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Golf Swing Weights = ADS
Yes, I'm familiar with Monty's PE weights. They are very similar to golf swing weights. These golf weights are worthless for hanging (they are too light). If you're going to use them for ADS purposes, that's different. However...
ADS = Inferior to Split Sets
I talked to Bib about this... & I have put my own thought into it, & I agree with Bib. ADS Devices are inferior to doing split sets. So I advise split sets for hangers.
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Not ready, yet, for serious hanging. Just want to get a feel for hanging a weight from my shaft and a golf weight just seemed like an easy, inexpensive way to get started. I also want to use it under my cloths. I found regular golf weights on line for $7.50, including shipping. I will use it as an ADS to compliment my extender. As mentioned elswhere, true hanging and an extender should not be combined.Valued Member of 12+ years at the PEGym12/'09 (start) NBP EL - 4.5, EG - 4.4
12/11 NBPEL - 5.1, MSEG - 5
01/13 NBPEL - 5.35, MSEG - 5.1
01/14 NBPEL - 5.35, MSEG - 5.25
01/16 NBPEL - 5.4, MSEG - 5.5
Fat Pad = 1+/-
Real cars have two seats. Everything else is a bus.
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If you just want a simple ADS, I recommend this device:
Cheap ADS: Stealth ADS ESL40 (Ebay)
It's cheaper than golf swing weights. Unless you've got really thick flaccid girth, golf weights are an annoyance. I spent about $15 on 3x golf swing weights (including shipping), but I was disappointed. If I had to choose all over again, I would get this device here. At worst, you're only out about $10.
You could safely combine this device with hanging, but I still believe split sets are superior. If you have no privacy though, this could help you optimize gains by helping you heal more elongated / avoid turtling. The same thread (link above) has another much more expensive ADS option (about $45).Last edited by blink2000; 09-09-2010, 03:03 PM.
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I've been trying this homemade hanger with shoelaces, a sock, and a gallon of milk. I try to tie around the base but the weight of the water is pulling it down and it sometimes end up falling off or is closer to the glands instead of the base. Sometimes it works nicely and is hung from the center of the shaft. Any ideas of how to make it more stable, because I feel like I can lift more weight pretty easily, but it hurts to lift it from the glands obviously and I don't want to damage it.
I'm not trying to spend any money through the internet and really want to get this homemade hanger working.
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1. You do not mention how you are wrapping prior to putting on the sock hanger. That could be the problem.Originally posted by Topcock View PostI've been trying this homemade hanger with shoelaces, a sock, and a gallon of milk. I try to tie around the base but the weight of the water is pulling it down and it sometimes end up falling off or is closer to the glands instead of the base. Sometimes it works nicely and is hung from the center of the shaft. Any ideas of how to make it more stable, because I feel like I can lift more weight pretty easily, but it hurts to lift it from the glands obviously and I don't want to damage it.
I'm not trying to spend any money through the internet and really want to get this homemade hanger working.
2. Recall from grade school 'a pint's a pound the world around'. A one gallon milk jug weights slightly more than 8 lbs if it is full. That is too much weight to start with. If you are using water in a jug start with five cups, 2.5 lb and work up from that point to a full gallon, about a pint a week. Sock hanger is a bit dicey once you get past five lb.Start 2009/06/24 bpel 5.5 eg 4.75
2009/08/26 bpel 5.5 eg 5.25
2010/01/05 bpel 6.12"
2010/08/01 bpel 6.25
Goal 7"
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1. I'm just doubling up the opening of the sock, putting it around it and tying it with a shoelace at the base. I'm new to hanging.. what else kind of wrapping should I be doing. I'm not feeling any pain, its just having trouble staying on.
2. I'm only using roughly 2/5 of the milk gallon, definitely not the whole thing although I might want to work my way up. I guess I should just stick with less weight, although when I exercise any part of my body I usually do a great amount of weight over a short amount of time vs low weight for more time. I don't think I'm at 5 pounds yet.
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1. You need to wrap your friend first, ace bandage, what a grip etc. Read Blink's post on hanging in particular the wrapping part. If you don't wrap, you will keep having the same experience, that is the sock will pull off taking some skin as it does so.Originally posted by Topcock View Post1. I'm just doubling up the opening of the sock, putting it around it and tying it with a shoelace at the base. I'm new to hanging.. what else kind of wrapping should I be doing. I'm not feeling any pain, its just having trouble staying on.
2. I'm only using roughly 2/5 of the milk gallon, definitely not the whole thing although I might want to work my way up. I guess I should just stick with less weight, although when I exercise any part of my body I usually do a great amount of weight over a short amount of time vs low weight for more time. I don't think I'm at 5 pounds yet.
2. That should be about right to start with, but this is no weight training and you need to change your mind set. Your are deforming tissue here, not building muscle.
Hopefully you have gone through the beginners routine before attempting hanging.Start 2009/06/24 bpel 5.5 eg 4.75
2009/08/26 bpel 5.5 eg 5.25
2010/01/05 bpel 6.12"
2010/08/01 bpel 6.25
Goal 7"
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I've been PEing for around 2 to 2.5 years starting out with an extender (SizeGenetics) and then just doing manual PE exercises like jelqs, streches, and kegels. I gained around an inch in length from 7.5 to 8.5 BPEL the first year and half and then the last year I've been mostly concentrating on girth. I've been finding it hard to gain length and have gained basically no length in the last year (nice girth gains though). This is where I'm hoping HANGING will help. So I've done PE that long basically 5 out of 7 days of the week.Originally posted by frb3 View Post1. You need to wrap your friend first, ace bandage, what a grip etc. Read Blink's post on hanging in particular the wrapping part. If you don't wrap, you will keep having the same experience, that is the sock will pull off taking some skin as it does so.
2. That should be about right to start with, but this is no weight training and you need to change your mind set. Your are deforming tissue here, not building muscle.
Hopefully you have gone through the beginners routine before attempting hanging.
Wrapping has helped a lot; I went out to the store and bought Johnson and Johnson Hurt Free Wrap and it reduces the slippage to almost none. As far as weight goes, I will take your advise and do them daily with small amount of weight working up every week.
One thing I'm confused about is this statement on the primer:
"Choose a Primary & Secondary Angle of Attack:
All hangers should begin by targeting their suspensory ligaments. There are two reasons for this:
1-the ligaments are more susceptible to deformation than the Tunica (easier gains)
2-the Tunica gains cannot be successfully maximized until the ligaments are fully deformed.
In order to target your ligaments, use any low angle such as BTC, SD. One you have maximized ligament deformation and you are ready to target your Tunica, you may need to change your angle or start using fulcrums to continue making gains. The RSDT is an excellent example of a powerful fulcrum that can create fatigue all the way down your shaft."
How can I make sure I'm targeting my ligaments and not the tunica. And as far as the angles go, I'm pretty much just hanging downward while standing up. I'm not sure what this angle is called, but will this target the ligaments? I really can't see any other angle I can try while standing up anyway, and I can't sit down because there are no chairs high enough to where the milk cartoon won't hit the ground.
Thanks
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