Pumping?

[Irishfan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Irishfan]

When I pump I gain an inch in girth and an hour later it is all puffy behind the head. Are these two things normal? Also when I pull out at the end of my pumping session my penis is not erect. Is this normal?

[sslone1021 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sslone1021]

Its been a while since I used a pump (I use size matters penis extender), But I believe I was usaually not erect.

[BigO AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close BigO]

Well it all sounds normal but the puffiness behind the head sounds like edema. Edema is fluid build up and is a sign of overdoing it with either negative pressure and/or length of pumping time.
How much pumping have you done and whats your routine now

[DemOne Banned Find all posts View Profile Close DemOne]

Well it all sounds normal but the puffiness behind the head sounds like edema. Edema is fluid build up and is a sign of overdoing it with either negative pressure and/or length of pumping time.
How much pumping have you done and whats your routine now

Or could just be because the OP is going into the pump flaccid...though I think you're right on him either over-doing through either too much pressure, time, or both.

[HotRod Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close HotRod]

Irishfan, are you circumcised? Uncircumcised guys sometimes have a unique issue with the foreskin and edema. I think the solution is to support the foreskin with a light wrap of ace bandage.

[rustynailsack Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close rustynailsack]

I get that too and im not circumsized all the puffiness is on my forskin, does that mean im over doing it too, My routine is
10min warmup in hot shower
30min stretch with an extender
3 sets of 10min pumping followed by
3 sets of 10min clamping
then I hold a cockring for about 1 hour immedietly afterwards
*note 3 to 5min rest between sets
3 days a week......would that be considered overtraining??????
I have noticed gains

[DemOne Banned Find all posts View Profile Close DemOne]

What pressures are you pumping at?

[rustynailsack Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close rustynailsack]

-5hg

[Irishfan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Irishfan]

Well it all sounds normal but the puffiness behind the head sounds like edema. Edema is fluid build up and is a sign of overdoing it with either negative pressure and/or length of pumping time.
How much pumping have you done and whats your routine now

I usually do 7 lbs at 20 minutes for one set

[Irishfan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Irishfan]

Or could just be because the OP is going into the pump flaccid...though I think you're right on him either over-doing through either too much pressure, time, or both.

I am going in flaccid. Should I not do that?

[Irishfan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Irishfan]

Irishfan, are you circumcised? Uncircumcised guys sometimes have a unique issue with the foreskin and edema. I think the solution is to support the foreskin with a light wrap of ace bandage.

I am circumcised. My grandpa said they took of too much. My family never let me live that down

[Irishfan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Irishfan]

What pressures are you pumping at?

7 lbs I sometimes go to 10 for a minute or two but it kind of hurts

[Dash-5 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Dash-5]

Irish- Sounds like you may be over doing it a bit. To my way of thinking, when you get the after-pump fluid buildup, it's your dick trying to say something to you. I've had the fluid buildup condition a few times, and I've carefully tracked when it occurs, what my workout was like, so that I can avoid those conditions on later workouts. So I'd recommend varying your pumping sessions, take a few notes, and see how much of a workout you can do while still avoiding fluid rings.

7" Hg. seems like a fairly high vacuum level, and 10 is definitely high. I've had good luck with 5", and occasionally go to 6". I have also noticed good results at less than 5", too. 15 minutes at a time is also about my max, with jelqing in between pump sessions. Longer sessions are done at lower vacuum. Often I only pump for about 10 minute sets. Pumping and jelqing seem to work well together, especially for girth.

You don't have to go into the pump hard, but after you build up a little vacuum, then go for an erection to get max gains.

[not2big Senior Super ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close not2big]

I have been pumping for two years, I am cut, and I always go in flaccid because I have ED and use the pump to get erect. Granted, I am well conditioned, but I find that if I keep the vacuum below 5 in/hg and the time below 20 minutes, I am able to avoid the "donut" effect. Beginners my want to limit time in to 10 or 15 minutes and increase the time by 1 minute a week

[HotRod Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close HotRod]

I think all you guys are using too much pressure. That's probably what's causing the edema. I'd put money on it.

Make sure you're reading the guage correctly. There is usually an inner and outer reading on the dial. On mine inches mercury (in. Hg) is on the outside. Also, these guages were originally designed for automotive mechanics. My guage actually starts at 2Hg, not 1 - that's probaby got something to do with it's intended purpose. There are only 4 long lines between 0 and 5. So the first long line on my Hg dial is actually 2Hg.

Try this instead:

Set a new red zone for yourself. Never pump higher than 3Hg. I know what manufacturers say (5 to 10 Hg sometimes - EEK!), but I see that as mostly a matter of providing a maximum safety limit. It's also just not necessary, and not how these devices were originally used. Never go for "packing the tube." If you pack the tube your tube is too small, or you're just a pump jock.

In fact, keep it lower than that. Keep it about 1/2 a notch below 3Hg, so you're working at 2.5Hg.

Start fully erect (unless you have ED problems). Pump to 2.5 and then start adding arousal. Be careful with this, especially as a beginner with this technique. Add arousal by looking at visual aids, fantasizing, whatever you have to do. The point here is not to drive yourself insane. You just want to add enough arousal that your normal erection is "assisted" by the small reduction of air pressure inside the cylinder. Your natural erectile function is doing most of the work. You should be able to sit relaxed and comfortably and just enjoy the sensations. You might even want to start by just pumping to 2.0Hg or even a little less so you get the feel of it. Just think about the physics of what you're doing. You don't wnat to explode your dick and you only need a little help from your friend Pump.

You only want to observe your penis swelling to a slightly greater volume than your normal full raging erection. This is all visual. It's what you're observing not what is happening. You don't want to HAVE a full rager. You want to OBSERVE your penis swelling to proportions slightly larger than your full rager. Point is, again: no tube packing.

If you do this correctly I think you'll be amazed by the expansion you get inside the cylinder working at these lower levels. Sometimes my needle is barely reading, but what I'm observing in the cylinder is fine, so I don't pump more air out. I just leave it and maintain arousal.

Okay...So at 2.5Hg, maintaining a state of arousal and normal blood flow. Try doing 10 sets of 1 minute each. And then do 2 sets of 5 minutes. You can play with different timing. Just give yourself the chance to adapt to this technique.

I think you'll be amazed with the result of working at low pressure and letting your natural erectile function do most of the work. I should also add that you should do at least 10 minutes heat and 10 or 20 minutes of milking or other manual techniques prior to pumping.