Pure Pumping Gains

[kickinthemebs Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close kickinthemebs]

Am testing the pulse pumping method for the next few months, so will let you know if it works in April It feels goooood now though haha

Does everyone still agree pump presure should be really low? 3inhg doesn't fee like anything for me. I've pumped a fee months and tend to spike pressure periodically sometimes as high as 15inhg and that's the only time I feel my dick stress. I'm there for only a couple seconds and drop to 4inhg. I notice I stay larger in the tube for longer. That high pressure is dumb I know but I also feel I have a very very tough tunica and it honestly doesn't feel like much. I have fantastic PIs. I'm also trying to shoot for length which is why I stayed with a smaller tube.

[NeverEnough9 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close NeverEnough9]

Yea I just see so many people so adament about keeping pressure really low but it doesn't feel like much at all

[closed224 Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2014, Feb 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close closed224]

The problem with high pressure is pulling fluid in past your tunica and causing edema. I have never been injured from edema, but it is uncomfortable. I did not heed the advice of the manufacturer at first, and did some high pressure pumping. It always caused edema, and sometimes loss of sensitivity. Longer lower pressures Dont "feel" as intense, but seem to help reach longer more permanent gains. If a small diameter tube use plenty of lube.

[NeverEnough9 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close NeverEnough9]

The problem with high pressure is pulling fluid in past your tunica and causing edema. I have never been injured from edema, but it is uncomfortable. I did not heed the advice of the manufacturer at first, and did some high pressure pumping. It always caused edema, and sometimes loss of sensitivity. Longer lower pressures Dont "feel" as intense, but seem to help reach longer more permanent gains. If a small diameter tube use plenty of lube.

At constant low pressure my unit feels relaxed somewhat. If i do get edema it's very minimal which is why I assume I have a very tough dick because it seems to require more.

[Dr Ric Head of My Penis Doctor Find all posts View Profile Close Dr Ric]

Dr Ric,

Did you gain all of your girth through pumping or have you included manuals, such as jelqs and ULIS, in the past? If so how long did it take you because a 2.5 inch increase is girth is ALOT ! Tried to look on the website for your previous workout logs but couldn't find any,

Many thanks,

JF

sorry for the delayed response, I do not often have a chance to venture forth into other threads. Essentially through my career the girth gains occurred as follows:

1. I would pump intermittently with a motorized pump, and felt that it helped a little bit, but I would substantially use a D cushion bib hanger starter, bring my penis up to full erection, wrap the base with Tarabande, tightened the hanger to increase intra-tunica pressure. After time I gained approximately 1 inch in girth to five and one half inches. Subsequent to that I purchased the DP 4000 from the CTC company pumps, just to experiment with it as I like to experiment with all the equipment so I have experiential knowledge to impart to my students, and to my surprise I went from five and a half inches to seven inches.

So there you have an brief my history of girth gains. I trust this sheds light on the situation. The computer pump by far is the most effective, a new pump is coming out by another company which I will also review, and if it passed the test I will recommend it.

[closed224 Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2014, Feb 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close closed224]

At constant low pressure my unit feels relaxed somewhat. If i do get edema it's very minimal which is why I assume I have a very tough dick because it seems to require more.

I think you might try something like what Kickinthemebs is doing. I Dont have a lot of experience with pulse pumping myself, but I am testing it out. The conditioning to vacuum is key for all of it. If you can raise pressure and/or time and not have edema or other negative PIs then I say go for it. I experience edema like swelling whenever I pump, or more precisely I have squishy feeling over the entire length of the shaft. When I over do pumping I get the doughnut effect just under my glans and I consider that effect the wrong kind of edema. We all are slightly different. Just Dont push too far too fast and you will be fine.

[ABC_d Member Find all posts View Profile Close ABC_d]

I've noticed using a milking/jerking motion at a 3-4" pressure really helps me pack my tube. I think it's the quick pressure spikes to 7" and heat that do the trick. As well as using the proper sized tube. There are novelty sizes at sex shops that will cause more frustration than growth.

[chuck89gt5.0 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close chuck89gt5.0]

I feel 3 hg is WAY too low. At 3 hg I can pull the pump right off my dick because its little to no suction. I stay at a minimum 5 hg but usually closer to 7 hg. I've gained both length and girth doing this. Little to no edema

[LittleMonty Member Find all posts View Profile Close LittleMonty]

Hello gents, I've spent the last two to three days researching and asking questions to find out the best way to use my bathmate. I'm finally ready to accept that the way I've been pumping for the last 4 weeks has been bad for gains (entering at full erection and pumping at full pressure). After every session I would get edema which hinders gains as well according to Dr Ric and some other members over at Thunders.

I managed to work myself up to 2, 10 minuet sessions at full erection(maybe 90 - 95%) and full pressure doing my initial workout, however today I changed what I was doing.

At the end of my manual P.E session I entered the Bathmate semi-erect (not fully erect) and pumped to 1/2 inch less than my BPEL for 25 minuets. My BPEL is 6.5" so I pumped to 6" in the Bathmate. Bare in mind I would usually pump to at least 6.5" sometimes reaching 6 3/4" so the vacuum felt much much lower. At the end of the 25 minuet session I had no edema. Penis was a little purple as it always is after a session but after some massaging this goes away. My flaccid hang wasn't anything like what it usually is afterwards.

I started doing this after reading a thread on water pumping that Sparky done over at Thunders. He talked about using "Length Under Vacuum" (LUV) to judge the pressure you are pumping at and talked about pumping at 1/2 inch less than your BPEL to gain in girth and 1/4 inch less than you BPEL to gain in length. Here's the discussion.


MY Questions


Should I enter the bathmate:

1. With a full erection and just pump with less pressure or
2. With a semi erection and pump with a little more pressure or
3. With a semi erection and still just pump with less pressure

I was reading the trouble gaining girth thread and it said that to gain in girth, you don't want to be fully erect when exercising because when your tunica is fully hard it won't expand anymore. You have to do your girth exercises at around 75%, here's what RadioHead wrote:

This will prepare your penis for some more intense girth exercises like clamping. Another observation: when you are fully erect, the tunica is rock hard. it wont expand in this state. Keep your penis at a 75% erection level, and then apply your clamp or do a Uli..you will get much more expansion.

So does this mean that I should not enter the bathmate as erect as I can get myself if I want to gain in girth. That I should enter the bathmate at around 75% erection level?

I could have most definitely pumped a lot longer today. Either I could have upped the pressure or stayed in the tube longer. It just didn't feel like the tissues were being stressed enough. The vacuum was there, it just felt much weaker. I guess thats because I was pumping too high at first.

I just want to make sure I am using the Bathmate the correct way to gain girth. I don't want to in 3 or 6 months time look back and have wasted all that time doing it wrong when I could have maybe gained something in that time.

Everyones help is much appreciated.

[LittleMonty Member Find all posts View Profile Close LittleMonty]

I feel 3 hg is WAY too low. At 3 hg I can pull the pump right off my dick because its little to no suction. I stay at a minimum 5 hg but usually closer to 7 hg. I've gained both length and girth doing this. Little to no edema

Hi Chuck, what was your routine? how long were you staying in your pump for per session

[closed224 Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2014, Feb 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close closed224]

Using a Bathmate with no guagr is different than an air pump with a guagr. Longer time with less pressure works better overall. I would suggest that 7 is maximum you should ever go to and I think you should only go there for a pulse or short time. I am a fan of 3-5 hg and slowly build time up. I have used low pressure for hours. -3 hg while doing chores around the house, or working on the computer. I gained my first inch in BPEL, and MEG this way. 75% erect has good merits in my mind.

[chuck89gt5.0 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close chuck89gt5.0]

Hi Chuck, what was your routine? how long were you staying in your pump for per session

I would pump 45 min to an hour. Taking pump off every 20 min for some quick exercises for maybe 5 min. Then pump back on. I gained. But killed my eq.
I'm now pumping 20-30 min slightly less pressure. Gonna see if I gain more. My eq is already better.

[LittleMonty Member Find all posts View Profile Close LittleMonty]

Okay Wishful thanks, do you believe that if you pump at 90 to 95% erection it is harder to gain girth this way even if you are pumping at a lower pressure say 3-5hg ?

Also did you pump at around 75% erection level then? Just trying to figure out if it is definitely better to pump at lower erection levels if you want to gain in girth? Did it take you long before you gained your first 0.5 inch in girth?

[LittleMonty Member Find all posts View Profile Close LittleMonty]

I would pump 45 min to an hour. Taking pump off every 20 min for some quick exercises for maybe 5 min. Then pump back on. I gained. But killed my eq.
I'm now pumping 20-30 min slightly less pressure. Gonna see if I gain more. My eq is already better.

Thanks Chuck, I also killed my EQ as well, started noticing it going down towards the end of the third week but I still kept going with my pumping routing, rookie mistake. What erection level do you pump at now, would you also agree that pumping at around 75% erection level is best for girth gains

[closed224 Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2014, Feb 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close closed224]

My best girth gains came from 75% erect pumping. I also jelq always. This helps me maintain EQ.