L-arginine WHEN to take it???

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Guys: Few debate the benefits of L-Arginine on the penis. And I thought I had it figured out that taking 2-3 grams per day would be helpful. Now here's the question---Should Arginine be taken WITH a meal or on an empty stomach? I have read dozens of thoughts on this and am not sure what the best answer is. I have read that it is best to take it on an empty stomach, at least one hour before a meal and then before bed on an empty stomach. The bottle says to take it with a meal. Has anyone determined whether there is a benefit to taking Arginine and/or Lysine AFTER a PE workout??? It's tricky to know what to do when there's conflicting information.

Thanks

[Radiohead Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Radiohead]

You're gonna have to try different combinations of things.

I took my arginine randomly throughout the day.

[slanker Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close slanker]

For growth hormone release, on an empty stomach before bed. Thats what I read.

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I read to take Arginine on empty stomach before bed. But I also read that in order to get the growth hormone release, you have to take 6+ grams. With 500mg tablets, can taking 12 of these before bed REALLY be good for you?

[PhibbysHammer Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close PhibbysHammer]

Guys: Few debate the benefits of L-Arginine on the penis. And I thought I had it figured out that taking 2-3 grams per day would be helpful. Now here's the question---Should Arginine be taken WITH a meal or on an empty stomach? I have read dozens of thoughts on this and am not sure what the best answer is. I have read that it is best to take it on an empty stomach, at least one hour before a meal and then before bed on an empty stomach. The bottle says to take it with a meal. Has anyone determined whether there is a benefit to taking Arginine and/or Lysine AFTER a PE workout??? It's tricky to know what to do when there's conflicting information.

Thanks

2 Protocols:

1.Daytime (Nitric Oxide Protocol)
The Nitric Oxide protocol is comprised of ingesting 6 grams, which is 6,000 milligrams of specifically formulated arginine, 1-3 times during the day.


Benefits following the Daytime Protocol:

• Anti-oxidant
• Is Rejuvenative
• Is an Adaptogen
• Boosts energy level
• Helps maintain healthy blood sugar levels
• Reduces blood pressure
• Reduces risk of heart disease, stroke and cholesterol
• Unclogs arteries
• Reduces the risk of cardio-vascular heart disease
• Improves cardio-vascular disease that is already prevalent
• Helps in promoting healthy Sexual Performance

Directions for taking L'arginine for Daytime Use: (General Health Benefits)

Suggested Serving: Mix one serving (3/4 scoop providing 3 g L-arginine) with 4-8 oz. water (depending on individual taste). Stir to dissolve. If water is very cold, mixture will take about 1 minute to dissolve. Add 3-4 cubes of ice to activate the flavour system (if desired). One serving (1 scoop) may be taken one to three times per day. Do not take within ½ hour of other meals or drinks. Do not mix with high glycemic drinks, flavoured water, or juices.


2. Night-time (Anti Aging Protocol)

The anti-aging protocol is comprised of ingesting 10 grams of elemental l-arginine only at bedtime on a totally empty stomach, which accesses the delta sleep cycle. If you take l-arginine during the night you will get all of the benefits of Nitric Oxide and anti-aging. If you take l-arginine during the day you won’t get any anti-aging benefits. It really just depends on what people are looking for.

Benefits following the Night-time Protocol:

• Increases Muscle Mass
• Supports Growth
• Stimulates Muscle Development
• Supports Hypothalamic Response
• Helps decrease Body Fat
• Anti-oxidant properties
• Helps maintain Healthy Blood Sugar Levels
• Boosts energy levels
• Is Rejuvenative
• Helps in promoting Healthy Sexual Performance
• Is an Adaptogen
• Growth Hormone: Helps provide necessary building blocks for the body to maintain healthy growth hormone levels
• Helps produce Nitric Oxide
• Stimulates production of Human Anti-Aging mechanisms for those over 23 years.

Directions for taking Larginine for Night-time Use: (Anti-Aging Benefits)

Anti-aging benefits of L-arginine only occurs when 6-10 grams of specifically formulated L-arginine is ingested in a low glycemic format with no competing proteins or amino acids present.

Mix 2 servings (2 full scoops) in desired amount of water, 30 minutes prior to sleep on an empty stomach. Do not ingest food, including protein drinks, high glycemic drinks, or supplements containing any other amino acids with or within 2 hours of taking this product at bedtime. Ingesting food, amino acids, or high glycemic ingredients with or near this product is not in any way harmful, it simply will negate the benefits.
L-Arginine will not work unless you follow this protocol. If you don't go to sleep within that time frame or if there is a presence of food, the L-arginine will not cross the blood brain-barrier. The L-Arginine benefits for the night-time protocol will be wasted. You need to sleep for a minimum of 4 hours. Ideally you should sleep 8 hours for your body to repair itself.

You will still get the Cardio-vascular benefits, but not the anti-aging benefits.

Obviously you need to decide which is best for your goals.

Source of Data: Arginine Dosage
Also there is a few other sites that support these assumptions you can find several by simply googling key words.

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Phibbyshammer: Thanks for the information. I have read this before. However, I have also seen where you are to take the Arginine supplements WITH a meal. Beyond the general health benefits, we are wanting the growth hormone benefit. Trying to lock down exactly how much (which according to this is 6g) to take and with or without food is the difficult part. Thanks and I'll keep looking.

[justwannabebig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close justwannabebig]

Good info phibby !
But can you do both? take some arginine trough the day, and then 6gram in the nigth?

[frb3 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close frb3]

Now the next question would be which brand and version of LArginine is best. Just started taking it. Did take it in the late 70's and early 80's when I was lifting on a regular basis, and it worked. But there was no set format as to when and where. This was on the recommendation made in Durk Pearson's book. Economically it looks like the powder would be the way to go, but the site's product if extremely expensive in relative terms.

My own plan is to follow the rejuvenation protocol, by slowly working myself up. Started with one gram of Twin Labs L-Arginine and L-Ornithine last evening. Woke me right up was staring at the ceiling with my eyes wide open at 1AM. Hopefully this is just temporary.

frb

[Radiohead Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Radiohead]

Go for more expensive good quality brands at natural supplement stores. I dont trust supermarkets, neither should you. Supermarket = super scam

[PhibbysHammer Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close PhibbysHammer]

Good info phibby !
But can you do both? take some arginine trough the day, and then 6gram in the nigth?

I Take it multiple times daily but not a whole 6 grams. (1000 mg doses)

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"Research shows that taking the right supplements before and after your workouts is the best window of opportunity for making both immediate progress in the gym and long-term gains down the road. We've devised a cheat sheet of sorts that instructs you exactly what and how much to take during these critical moments for maximizing your results for weightlifting and cardio workouts."


see cheat sheet at document source: Arginine maxed: taking arginine to the extreme for a bigger pump, greater strength, muscle growth and fat loss, too | Flex | Find Articles at BNET

[fas33 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close fas33]

supplements

i don't know where you guys buy this stuff and what it costs where you get it but these guys have a 3 for 1 sale on now this is where i buy almost all of my supplements now Discount Vitamins & Herbal Supplements from Puritan's Pride the delivery is usually within about a week they sell pretty much anything you will need even with the shipping and exchange rate (im in Canada) this is cheaper than the stores for me. just my 2 cents.

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Need An Organic Chemist

Back in the 70's it was determined that you needed more calcium in your diet. Supplements came on to the market, at first mainly dolomite calcium tablets. These tablets were nothing more than ground up dolomite limestone. Close to Portland Cement. There were two problems with this supplement, one was lead which had leeched through the limestone from rain, and humans digestive track didn't recognize this form of calcium. Basically dolomite is calcium carbonate with a touch of magnesium, superficially just what the doctor ordered. Today you can get supplements with chelated forms of calcium, that is organic calcium that you body will absorb. You by the way need the magnesium to activate the calcium. Same thing with Zinc, you need zinc, but you need an organic form, so to get the benefits of zinc, i.e. more lead in your pencil, you need zinc picolinate. Not the gluconate version.

Now I went to the Puritan Website and it is a remarkably good price for the L-Arginine, it is the hyrochloride version. It this bio-available or will it just give you expensive urine.

I'm a marketing/personnel major, lots of math background, but no chemistry. Maybe one of you has the kind of knowledge I am looking for here.

frb

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PhibbysHammer (and others): Thanks for the replies--PhibbysHammer-- GREAT article with lots of helpful detail. Since you should take Arginine shortly before and immediately after "workouts," wouldn't it stand to reason that taking Arginine would yield the best benefits for the penis if taken shortly before and immediately after PE workouts? I truly believe that Arginine, combined with other supplements, can impact penis growth.

What do you think about taking Arginine before and after PE workouts???

[PhibbysHammer Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close PhibbysHammer]

Been doing it for a couple of months myself. When I first learned that 6 grams was a normal dose I felt 100 mg before and 1000 after plus another 2000 before bed would suit me fine.