Confusion with Reverse Kegels

[imac Retired Moderator Member of the Month Nov 12PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close imac]

When i reverse kegel on my back I can isolate the BC muscle. But when i do this laying on my back I really push out some urine and it's a lot some drops of pee every time. Wondering if I am doing things right....

You're pushing too hard. Urine shouldn't come out when you reverse kegel. Just ease off a bit.

[Chase_the_dream Member Find all posts View Profile Close Chase_the_dream]

So after readin these post what iam gathering is RKs help push you away from the PONR during any kind of stimulation weather it be edging sex or ballooning? Is this correct? And should it feel like I have to take a dump while RKing? Or does this mean that iam pushing too hard

[adiavroxos Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close adiavroxos]

So after readin these post what iam gathering is RKs help push you away from the PONR during any kind of stimulation weather it be edging sex or ballooning? Is this correct? And should it feel like I have to take a dump while RKing? Or does this mean that iam pushing too hard

Everyone is different during sex. If there was a fixed patern on which type of kegeling to do and exactly when, then everyone would last as long as he wanted and be MMO. Things arent like that. Some men find that RKs during sex help them last longer. Some find that it actually makes them reach their PONR faster. What works for me is to just not think of kegeling at all during sex. When I see im STARTING to move towards my PONR, i may slow down and do a few RKs to earn some more time. But if im pretty close to the PONR, forcing a RK will definitely make things worse and even trigger ejaculation. Holding a hard regular kegel right before the PONR is my way of preventing ejaculation and lowering down my arousal.

Regarding the need to take a dump thing. Its only natural to have that feeling. Remember that you are actually pushing out feces when RKing. There are many times that I stopped my RK training in order to go and take a dump. Dont worry about it.

[imac Retired Moderator Member of the Month Nov 12PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close imac]

So after readin these post what iam gathering is RKs help push you away from the PONR during any kind of stimulation weather it be edging sex or ballooning? Is this correct? And should it feel like I have to take a dump while RKing? Or does this mean that iam pushing too hard

Reverse kegels help push back the PONR if you do it before you reach the PONR and if you do it correctly.
If you reach the PONR and you reverse kegel you'll ejaculate but instead of shooting cum out it will pouring out like you're taking a piss. except with cum.
If you reach the PONR and you want to stop yourself from cumming then you need to hold a regular kegel until the need to cum recedes. This is done just before the PONR.

If it feel like you have to take a dump then you're pushing too hard and you're doing either a full reverse kegel ( trying to push down all your pelvic floor muscles at the same time ) or a back reverse kegel ( focusing on you PC and IC muscles )
It's front reverse kegels that focus solely on the BC muscle that are beneficial to PE and sex the others are done just for overall balance and it's this exercise I described in my original post. you shouldn't feel like you need to take a dump doing this exercise.

[Chase_the_dream Member Find all posts View Profile Close Chase_the_dream]

See idk if a kegel would help with stoping me once I reach my PONR cuz when I edge and I kegel it always pushes me over the edge and I ejaculate so do you think a RK would work for me?

[imac Retired Moderator Member of the Month Nov 12PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close imac]

See idk if a kegel would help with stoping me once I reach my PONR cuz when I edge and I kegel it always pushes me over the edge and I ejaculate so do you think a RK would work for me?

To stop yourself going over the edge you have to kegel a bit before the PONR and as you get better at that you can start going closer and closer to the PONR before you have to kegel.

You have to remember that when you cum naturally you kegel automatically that's what causes your cum to shoot out. So if you kegel too late you'll just shoot harder.

It's all about developing control.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

To stop ejaculation with a kegel requires both specific strength amd some skill/timing. While stoping ejaculation can be done with rk most find it far harder and more demanding of strength/skill. Rk are usually used back from ponr to lower arousal.
To produce dry orgasm takes higher skill levels and in male multi orgasm, both kegel and rk can be used in a variety of ways. However mmo is not the purpose of this thread.

[Chase_the_dream Member Find all posts View Profile Close Chase_the_dream]

To stop ejaculation with a kegel requires both specific strength amd some skill/timing. While stoping ejaculation can be done with rk most find it far harder and more demanding of strength/skill. Rk are usually used back from ponr to lower arousal.
To produce dry orgasm takes higher skill levels and in male multi orgasm, both kegel and rk can be used in a variety of ways. However mmo is not the purpose of this thread.

Which is exactly why I wasn't asking about mmo I was asking about the rk to back myself down so that way I don't ejaculate so quickly. My posts were all about what technique I should use and what other people think of my situation.... so back on topic the rk overall is more taxing and takes more concentration therefore taking my mind off the big o and paying attention to how good it feels right? I mean no disrespect by the first part of my post pegasus I was just getting back on track

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

The method of action of rk appears to be physical not a distraction. As Several have stated it appears to lower arousal when far enough back from ponr.

[Sora Member Find all posts View Profile Close Sora]

Just some of my own observations - I'm new, but am hoping that they'll be of some interest

I have yet to isolate my BC muscle, but when I apply an RK during edging, I realise that I can actually feel a sort of pushing out sensation along the entire perineal area. This is followed by my erection becoming more swollen, and the PONR backing off somewhat.

However, I noticed that if I held the RK lightly, the PONR feeling intensifies, and a full-strength RK seems to banish the feeling completely (leading to the engorged erection and temporarily gone PONR as described previously).

With regards to the PONR, would anyone be able to shed some light on why RK's seem to shorten my lasting time between PONR's? It seems to me that when I do not apply RK's and instead use heavy ballooning, the PONR takes longer to be reached again.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Affect of rk seems to vary depending on a number of factors . As you alluded the strength of the rk ,where on arousal scale it was applied ,if it is front,back or dual rk,state of mind, length of time held, time between each rk etc.

[imac Retired Moderator Member of the Month Nov 12PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close imac]

Just some of my own observations - I'm new, but am hoping that they'll be of some interest

I have yet to isolate my BC muscle, but when I apply an RK during edging, I realise that I can actually feel a sort of pushing out sensation along the entire perineal area. This is followed by my erection becoming more swollen, and the PONR backing off somewhat.

However, I noticed that if I held the RK lightly, the PONR feeling intensifies, and a full-strength RK seems to banish the feeling completely (leading to the engorged erection and temporarily gone PONR as described previously).

With regards to the PONR, would anyone be able to shed some light on why RK's seem to shorten my lasting time between PONR's? It seems to me that when I do not apply RK's and instead use heavy ballooning, the PONR takes longer to be reached again.

It sounds like you're doing them right if you're pushing back the PONR when you do them.

[buttersketch Member Find all posts View Profile Close buttersketch]

Hi!

I am new here, so I would like to ask a few questions!

I have been reading a lot about this lately on PEgym, and I realized that I probably have the following two conditions which resulted in my PE:

1. imbalance in pelvic muscles
2. Conditioning my body to cum fast through a bad masterbation misbehavior!

I am planning to fix the problem by September, which gives me 90 days! I am currently at zero level, and hoping to last as long as 20 minutes in bed with my girl friend! I am having a positive outlook on this, assuming 100% that I will control it! i need to give it time and dedication and fucking fix this!


So the question is:

1.Do I need to reverse kegel only? since I have a lot of involantary kegels forming during sex due to the implications, or should I do both but keep the Rk's to a 70% and 30% Ks.... and
2. What routine for kegels should I use? thanks.

Btw, I am currently reading "implications" and the "arousal articles" by drummer and byggD. Hope they will be of help.

And, any more suggestoins should be really good! thanks a lot everyone!

[imac Retired Moderator Member of the Month Nov 12PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close imac]

Hi!

So the question is:

1.Do I need to reverse kegel only? since I have a lot of involantary kegels forming during sex due to the implications, or should I do both but keep the Rk's to a 70% and 30% Ks.... and
2. What routine for kegels should I use? thanks.

If the spasms are really bad you can do just reverse kegels for a couple of week and then start introducing kegels gradually until you have a balanced routine.
If it's not that bad you could start a 70/30 routine and as you improve move on to 60/40 then 50/50. Use your judgement.
I have a balance pelvic floor and I always to a bit more reverse kegels than kegel. probably around 60/40
Start learning how to isolate your BC muscle so you can learn to stretch and relax it during stimulation.

When you start a kegel routine don't do quick contraction kegels. Instead to kegel holds. Start by aiming for 10 sec and if you can't hold them for that long try 5 sec. How ever long your hold is allow the same amount of time for rest (eg. 10 sec kegel then 10 sec rest)
Start by doing this for 10 min and as your strength and control increases then you can start to increase the length of the hold or the length of the exercise or both, But don't do too much too fast.
Avoid over training by only kegeling ever other day or even every third day.

[buttersketch Member Find all posts View Profile Close buttersketch]

When you start a kegel routine don't do quick contraction kegels. Instead to kegel holds. Start by aiming for 10 sec and if you can't hold them for that long try 5 sec. How ever long your hold is allow the same amount of time for rest (eg. 10 sec kegel then 10 sec rest)
Start by doing this for 10 min and as your strength and control increases then you can start to increase the length of the hold or the length of the exercise or both, But don't do too much too fast.
Avoid over training by only kegeling ever other day or even every third day.

I can do 10 second holds with kegels. And I was able to find my bc muscles and contract them. how long should I do the K?rKs. 5 Minute Ks and 15 Minute Rks? Thats almost 30 : 70 Ks to Rks no?