Pelvic Floor Balance

[xyznzxy Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close xyznzxy]

Front/Back Balance
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The unbalance can also be specific to a certain part of the pelvic floor. In that case you can do more isolated exercises to correct the imbalance.(front kegels, back kegels, front reverse kegels and back reverse kegels)

Here what is "back kegels" exactly?? How to perform it?? and what is the benefit of it??

[MilesDeep Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MilesDeep]

Hey this is a really good post. I got a lot of information.

I have a lot of tension to the point where my body automatically does all the involuntary kegels. I hate it because I have been trying to work on rk to balance out my pelvic floor but so far I still have premature ejaculation! I have been doing these exercises for about 5 months now and I notice when im edging that if I rk close to ponr I end up accelerating the cum to shoot out! Same with kegels. The only way I don't cum is if I stop stroking and do rk. When I do this the tip of my head feels like its about to leak cum and then the feeling goes away. (Is this retrograde ejaculation) ?

I really want to balance my pelvic floor to live my life the way I want to having amazing sex! If anyone has any ideas please reply to the post

P.s. I overtrained my kegels a while back, can I over train my rk to bring my pelvic floor back to balance or should I do 80:20 in favor or rk?

[dobby Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dobby]

Personally, I noticed the same thing, too many IK's while edging.

As of Sunday I switched to a 100% rk only routine.

I also focused on getting the best stretch possible out of my RK's, whereas before I was kind of half-assing my routine.

Front RK's:

For these, every time I piss (standing up) I speed up the flow of urine to get the muscle isolated. Then after I'm done, I'll still stand there and do front rk stretches for another 5 - 10 minutes. I can really feel the muscle stretching out a lot better in this position than any other and already feel it getting more loose.

Back RK's:

For me these are more easily done sitting, so when I shit I'll do 10 minutes of these while I'm there anyway and something about that position gives a really good stretch. It's actually pretty relaxing because the stretch feels really deep.

The other key is that I don't usually do flexes, I'll hold each stretch for anywhere from 3 - 15 seconds to really give the muscle a chance to stretch out more and more each time.

Since it's a stretch/tone exercise compared to a kegel which is building a muscle, I feel comfortable doing them every day and haven't noticed any soreness.

I also do the tennis ball massage once or twice a day just to really give the muscle some extra relaxation alongside the rk's.

Until I start to lose EQ or notice all of my IK's are completely gone from edging, I don't see a real need for kegels at this point if the goal is lasting longer.

[MilesDeep Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MilesDeep]

So how exactly does a rk feel? I feel it in 4 places..my head or entire penis, my balls, and in between my anus and balls. The readon I put "or" is because sometimes I dont feel it in my head at all just the penis. When I do feel it in my head it feels like I have to piss but without great force. Am I doing it correct?

[Jay1983 Senior MemberMember of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Jay1983]

So how exactly does a rk feel? I feel it in 4 places..my head or entire penis, my balls, and in between my anus and balls. The readon I put "or" is because sometimes I dont feel it in my head at all just the penis. When I do feel it in my head it feels like I have to piss but without great force. Am I doing it correct?

Front RK, that push you do to push urine, and/or make your urine stream more bold.

Back RK, that push you do to fart, or shit.

[MilesDeep Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MilesDeep]

Thanks Jay1983
I feel as if I push both those muscles at the same time. What's wrong there?!
Does the front reserve kegel feel as if you're doing it subconsciously?

[pegaso79 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pegaso79]

Many guys do massage of the area in addition to other training . The most common method is to sit on a ball placed in the perinum area. This does have a relaxing effect on the pelvic floor and surrounding area. Yoga style stretches are another method to relax the area

I used to do that but one time edge, and ballooning for 2 hours. Right after i try to relax my pelvic floor, so I did that, bu I think I put too much pressure on my prostate.
I don't know what happened, but I know that I stared to feel pleasure then I have an erection, and like in 10 seconds I came.
that was the strongest orgasm that I ever has.
after that I stopped and now I just do pelvic floor stretches, and reverse kegels.

[Tow Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Tow]

I've got hard iks, when stimulating the head, also, the pelvic floor is very hard when erected 100% and stimulated for like 5-10 minutes. Do you recommend 30/70 in favour to rk or just for few weeks just rks?

[toosoon Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close toosoon]

I went to see a physiotherapist thinking that my pelvic floor muscles were tense as I have a history of anxiety but she found that my pelvic floor muscles were actually not tense but rather weak (perhaps from too much tension) and has instructed me to do 'Power kegals'. Since I experience PE which is due to IK what would an ideal routine ratio look like for me? 60:40 Kegals:RK where I do both types of RKs? Should I split my RKs so that I do them before and after my set of kegals?

I am supposed to do Power Kegals 3 times a day and I will be reassessed weekly. Should I incorporate other kegal exercises or wait until my pelvic floor muscles are stronger to the point where Power Kegals don't need to be performed as often?

Since my pelvic floor muscles are weak, would strengthening them improve EQ?

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

I went to see a physiotherapist thinking that my pelvic floor muscles were tense as I have a history of anxiety but she found that my pelvic floor muscles were actually not tense but rather weak (perhaps from too much tension) and has instructed me to do 'Power kegals'. Since I experience PE which is due to IK what would an ideal routine ratio look like for me? 60:40 Kegals:RK where I do both types of RKs? Should I split my RKs so that I do them before and after my set of kegals?

I am supposed to do Power Kegals 3 times a day and I will be reassessed weekly. Should I incorporate other kegal exercises or wait until my pelvic floor muscles are stronger to the point where Power Kegals don't need to be performed as often?

Since my pelvic floor muscles are weak, would strengthening them improve EQ?

Strengthening the pelvic floor often helps eq .
Several things in your post worry me . The first is that the pelvic floor can be both weak and tense . You are being treated as though they are weak and very relaxed . What test was done to establish that?

[longerlastingnoob Senior Member Member of the Month Jan 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close longerlastingnoob]

Are they tense or not? You said the physio told you they weren't tense just weak, then said "weak from all the tension". Just trying to clarify.

[toosoon Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close toosoon]

Strengthening the pelvic floor often helps eq .
Several things in your post worry me . The first is that the pelvic floor can be both weak and tense . You are being treated as though they are weak and very relaxed . What test was done to establish that?

The PT felt the muscles in my pelvis through my anus

[toosoon Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close toosoon]

Are they tense or not? You said the physio told you they weren't tense just weak, then said "weak from all the tension". Just trying to clarify.

She is not 100% sure why the muscles are weak but her theory is that although the muscles don't currently feel tense it is possible that constant tension in the muscles over long periods of time in the past could have weakened those muscles.

[VikingA Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close VikingA]

Hi guys I'm new to this forum and this is my first post so bear with me! I'm 18yo and have suffered from weak erections for about 2 years. I also have a hard time maintaining an erection during sex, although my erection usually gets just about hard enough to have intercourse. (But no where near as hard as it should/I would like it to be) I think my pelvic floor might be the issue but I am not sure whether my PC muscles are too tense or too weak. My EQ is not very high with my erection having a very slight downward curve and my glans doesn't get very hard either. Furthermore, the blood vessel that runs along the bottom of the shaft does not protrude noticeably when I'm erect.

I have found that if I apply pressure to the muscles located between the anus and scrotum (during masturbation), my erection, as well as glans, becomes harder than without the pressure applied. Does this suggest too much tension or weakness? And also, what would be the best treatment?

Thank you so much!

[Minuteman Member of the Month March 2013. Find all posts View Profile Close Minuteman]

She is not 100% sure why the muscles are weak but her theory is that although the muscles don't currently feel tense it is possible that constant tension in the muscles over long periods of time in the past could have weakened those muscles.

My suggestion is for now to follow her advice and don't do anything that she doesn't tell you.

However you should include some stretching exercises. Watch this video and try to do those stretches that focus on the pelvic floor once a day (I do them in the morning). When doing the deep squat stretch breathe in deeply so that your lower abs and pelvic floor (most importantly the area between your testacles and your anus) inflates, but don't do it forcibly.

This is very important, do not forcibly inflate your lower abs and pelvic floor but do it gently but fully. The author of the video often refers to this as "breathe into your balls". This is essentially what I find to be the most natural form of a reverse kegel that includes expansion rather than relaxation.

So rather than just doing reverse kegels do the stretching exercises in the video that are about pelvic floor. That way they will not interfere much in what your physiotherapist what plaining.

So for now don't worry about ratios and don't do anything outside what your physiotherapist says, but do the stretches.

At first there is no need or stretches to last longer than a minute, later on you can rise them on two or three minutes.

Also what are Power Kegels exactly?