Any way to boost progress at all ??

[wantitbigger Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close wantitbigger]

Hi everyone. Im back to the PE community lol I say Im back cause I had started PEing last year, when I was about to complete my 90 days beginners routine I started seeking advice on what to do next, I asked like 2 times and amazingly, I got 0 replies.. yeah 0 ! When I finished the 90 days I dint know what to do, did a couple more days on the same routine, then I kinda lost motivation and just quit. Stupid I know. It wasnt in vain tho as I gained knowledge and good advice through the ninety something days I did PE.
I started to look at my penis and it looked smaller lately so HELL NO! I dont know if it is because I started working out and gaining weight or what but this is NOOO good!!
So, I started PEing this monday strictly between 9-10 am everyday. Sticking again to the beginners routine. The only thing I added to it is Kegeling. Im sicking to the 5 workout days and will rest on weekends. However; Im doing an erected kegel workout Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays.
I dont wanna lose motivation again, so I was wondering if maybe someone with more experience can give me advice on how to boost gains anyhow. Supplements or whatever has worked for u guys. Im taking ON Serious Mass shake as I was skinny and need to gain weight. I wasnt a big fan of taking any supplements but since Im doing it for my body, I wouldnt mind taking something for the most important part of it !!
Thanks in advance

[jmula Member Find all posts View Profile Close jmula]

if your trying to put on body weight consume alot of protein. i am also weight lifting myself just consume eggs.peanuts, meat such as chicken or steak etc, drink milk thats a big one. and get enough rest because rest days are the time that the muslces begin building. and when you working out the muslce is torn so you have to replenish yourself with protein. good luck to you.

EL:7
Girth:5.50

Goals:
EL: 8-9inch
GIrth:7.50

[midasman1974 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close midasman1974]

Hey Wantitbigger,

Welcome back! As for the previous un-answered questions of what to do on day # 91:

You can answer this by looking at your own progress over the first 90 days. Did you gain? How much? How were your P.I's How was your EQ? If you were gaining, you should have changed nothing until you hit a plateu. The old adage "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" applies to PE routines. After 90 days, you could have just added more time or more repetitions per session. You could have added some intermediate exercises, in addition to the beginner ones that should have been mastered.

A word of caution for you as you begin again: Consider yourself a newbie for the first month, at least. Your penis is going to rebel if you get back into an intesive routine immediately.

[wantitbigger Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close wantitbigger]

if your trying to put on body weight consume alot of protein. i am also weight lifting myself just consume eggs.peanuts, meat such as chicken or steak etc, drink milk thats a big one. and get enough rest because rest days are the time that the muslces begin building. and when you working out the muslce is torn so you have to replenish yourself with protein. good luck to you.

EL:7
Girth:5.50

Goals:
EL: 8-9inch
GIrth:7.50

Hey dude thanks for the support man!! I am taking the Serious Mass with 3 egg whites every morning and without them right after workout. I use whole milk, which I drink A LOT !! also peanut butter, tons of fish, and both white and red meat. I have a quick question, like I said I was skinny. I started at 5'10" 132pds. 6 weeks ago. Now Im 149, all good, but my belly looks like basket ball bro, do u think by working my core hard will make it flat again!? It kinda blocks half of my shaft view lol
Thanks again bro.

Hey Wantitbigger,

Welcome back! As for the previous un-answered questions of what to do on day # 91:

You can answer this by looking at your own progress over the first 90 days. Did you gain? How much? How were your P.I's How was your EQ? If you were gaining, you should have changed nothing until you hit a plateu. The old adage "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" applies to PE routines. After 90 days, you could have just added more time or more repetitions per session. You could have added some intermediate exercises, in addition to the beginner ones that should have been mastered.

A word of caution for you as you begin again: Consider yourself a newbie for the first month, at least. Your penis is going to rebel if you get back into an intesive routine immediately.

Thanks for the welcoming dude!! I know what Ima focus on when I reach day 91 again. I will not add anything to the routine till then tho, all Im doing besides it is kegeling which as far as Ive read will not negativelly affect nor overwork it at all. Erected because I remember someone telling me here that kegeling erected will give u minor size grains and will provably extend the tunica a bit wich is crucial for allowing the shaft to grow inside of it.

Thank u so much guys for ur help.. still wondering the original question about boosting gains, if anyone has 2 cents they will be highly appreciated it.

[Going411x7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Going411x7]

Drink lots of green tea--seriously. I have great libido and flushed flaccids and this only happens when I'm drinking lots of green tea.

[wantitbigger Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close wantitbigger]

Green tea huh, ok.. something else to add to my diet. I dont know where Im gonna put it as Im eating more than I can but.. if it works its gotta go in :-D thanks bro for the help!
Also, what do u mean by "flushed flaccids?

[NP97 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close NP97]

Best way to get progress... DEDICATION.

[wantitbigger Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close wantitbigger]

I got that one understood! NP97.. and I did gain something back then, but seems like it went away. Anyways, right now I can do it, but u know life schedules usually vary from time to time, I feel I wont always be able to separate about an hour at the same time everyday for the rest of my life, but I know seeing gains will always encourage and motivate me a lot !

[tangtastic Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close tangtastic]

I'll chime in on your weightlifting workout routine. Nobody can put on that much muscle mass in that short of time. The school of thought in weightlifting circles is 1-2 grams of protein per pound of body weight per day. This is hogwash. The average American diet has more than enough protein in it to stimulate growth if a proper stressful stimulus has been applied. If you truly want your genetic potential realized and are not an enhancement drug (steroid) user, your best approach is Mike Mentzer's tried and true Heavy Duty routine. I know I'll get varying opinions on this but I've put the proof in the pudding with my own results as well as friends who wanted to know what the hell I was doing. Basically, the explanation and premise is simple....if you're not working out to momentary muscular failure then you're wasting your time. Progress will come in dribs and drabs, and not methodically. The human body is not the mystery many make it out to be. Without a shock to your system by means of overload, you will not gain muscle mass, only muscle tone....period.

I'm paraphrasing here but have you ever wondered why people say you should do 3 sets of this, 3 sets of this and 5 sets of that? It's BS. Our approach is very wrong because we've based all our workout knowledge on the presumption that volume training is the best and surefire way to gain muscle mass. These are anabolic steroid user routines. Also, just because you exhausted a muscle group today doesn't mean you can work another one tomorrow. Your body has only so much physiological recuperation capacity available to make the necessary growth and strength gains occur. It cannot compartmentalize them and dedicate this much for chest, this much for legs and so on. It needs your full attention and availability every single time. If 3 sets is good then 4 or 5 by that way of thinking would be better right? The thinking is flawed. I did this type of volume training and crazy protein intake for years with not quite the results I wanted. One set on the prescribed training exercises and regimens listed in Mentzer's book are the equivalent of an anabolic shock to the system if done properly. It's 100% measurable every single workout. Don't think for one second that more exercises and angles of attack will make you bigger, more defined and stronger. If you know you have 12 sets of chest exercises ahead of you you're going to pace yourself so that you can finish your workout. You can't go balls to the wall if you know you're not even half way done so you hold back. Then, by the time you get to your 12th set you're so fatigued and want to really feel the pump and burn that you go for it because your done now and that's when injury happens and growth is limited. At your most fatigued muscle strength you're attempting what will simply not work. On that same token, if I told you that we have 2 sets of chest today and we're not hitting it again for another 10 days then what level of effort do you think I would see out of you? I work out once every 4-5 days and have reduced my bodyfat to 9% while gaining 12 solid pounds of muscle mass (not 12 pounds of weight) in a year. Trust me when I tell you that 12 pounds of muscle mass is a quantum leap on a 180 pound frame. I keep a log of every workout and it takes 2 weeks for me to complete the circuit of exercises as prescribed.We've created a subculture based around mythical routines in a gym everyday or every other day because we need to fit them into our 7 day week and 30 day month. Your body doesn't work on this clock and never will. If you give this a chance for only 6 months you will see that you will get stronger every single workout....guaranteed. The affect of strength gain is muscle compensation by means of growth provided by the necessary stimulus. You don't get larger and stronger muscles because you lift weights for an hour per day. You get larger muscles because of progressive overload with adequate recuperation. It's science, not guesswork. Have you ever wondered why so many people say that they had to switch up their routine to shock the muscles. All they did was jumpstart their motivation from a tedious daily ritual that goes against muscle building science and breeds boredom. If I put you through one of my workouts you would most likely vomit when we were done. I switch up my routine every workout with the same exercise. When I've gotten strong enough to handle more reps in the desired rep range, it's time to increase the load, not the angle of approach. I can take less rest from one movement to the next. Trust me, it is not physiologically possible for your muscles to know that you've changed their angle of attack. They will recognize an increase in load and respond accordingly by growing. Any more exercise after this momentary muscular failure is counterproductive and will eat into the gateways of muscle growth and strength. I am done my workouts in less than a half hour and on squat days I've sometimes had to sit on the gym floor for 10 minutes before I could walk again. I went from beginning dumbbell presses of 80 pounds each with 8 reps to the big 140 pounders with 7 reps currently after 1 year. Perfect form and working to failure are the hardest obstacles to get over as a beginner, but once you realize how safe failure really is you'll seek out for the truth that it is.

One year ago these were my stats:
Age: 37
Weight: 180
Arms: 15 1/2
Chest: 46
Waist 34 (a tight 34)

Currently:

Age: 38
Weight: 192
Arms: 18 1/2
Chest:49
Waist: 31/32

You've been willing to explore something as radical as PE. Do yourself a favor and do a search on HIT (High Intensity Training). There is no sticking with it. Results are immediately measurable by the next workout. Eat a well balanced diet and you will attain your goals. Don't fall prey to the "what can I ingest to make myself better" way of thinking. Eat well, sleep well and bust your ass like an animal when you're in the gym once every 3-5 days and you can reach your genetic potential in a year's time. And remember....you heard it here.

[Pirate Retired AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Pirate]

Best way to get progress... DEDICATION.

Aye!
Keep a long term view and drink lots of erection tea.

[DownLow Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close DownLow]

I suggest when coming off the 90 day program to hire Big Al for at least one month, maybe 3 at the most. I feel I missed out at that point because I didn't know about Big Al until late last year. I aimlessly did programs for over a year, and though I gained, I wonder if it could have been better.

I feel Big Al will teach you how to progress and pick the best exercises for your goals. After that, it is pretty easy to do it on your own.

[wantitbigger Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close wantitbigger]

I'll chime in on your weightlifting workout routine. Nobody can put on that much muscle mass in that short of time. The school of thought in weightlifting circles is 1-2 grams of protein per pound of body weight per day. This is hogwash. The average American diet has more than enough protein in it to stimulate growth if a proper stressful stimulus has been applied. If you truly want your genetic potential realized and are not an enhancement drug (steroid) user, your best approach is Mike Mentzer's tried and true Heavy Duty routine. I know I'll get varying opinions on this but I've put the proof in the pudding with my own results as well as friends who wanted to know what the hell I was doing. Basically, the explanation and premise is simple....if you're not working out to momentary muscular failure then you're wasting your time. Progress will come in dribs and drabs, and not methodically. The human body is not the mystery many make it out to be. Without a shock to your system by means of overload, you will not gain muscle mass, only muscle tone....period.

I'm paraphrasing here but have you ever wondered why people say you should do 3 sets of this, 3 sets of this and 5 sets of that? It's BS. Our approach is very wrong because we've based all our workout knowledge on the presumption that volume training is the best and surefire way to gain muscle mass. These are anabolic steroid user routines. Also, just because you exhausted a muscle group today doesn't mean you can work another one tomorrow. Your body has only so much physiological recuperation capacity available to make the necessary growth and strength gains occur. It cannot compartmentalize them and dedicate this much for chest, this much for legs and so on. It needs your full attention and availability every single time. If 3 sets is good then 4 or 5 by that way of thinking would be better right? The thinking is flawed. I did this type of volume training and crazy protein intake for years with not quite the results I wanted. One set on the prescribed training exercises and regimens listed in Mentzer's book are the equivalent of an anabolic shock to the system if done properly. It's 100% measurable every single workout. Don't think for one second that more exercises and angles of attack will make you bigger, more defined and stronger. If you know you have 12 sets of chest exercises ahead of you you're going to pace yourself so that you can finish your workout. You can't go balls to the wall if you know you're not even half way done so you hold back. Then, by the time you get to your 12th set you're so fatigued and want to really feel the pump and burn that you go for it because your done now and that's when injury happens and growth is limited. At your most fatigued muscle strength you're attempting what will simply not work. On that same token, if I told you that we have 2 sets of chest today and we're not hitting it again for another 10 days then what level of effort do you think I would see out of you? I work out once every 4-5 days and have reduced my bodyfat to 9% while gaining 12 solid pounds of muscle mass (not 12 pounds of weight) in a year. Trust me when I tell you that 12 pounds of muscle mass is a quantum leap on a 180 pound frame. I keep a log of every workout and it takes 2 weeks for me to complete the circuit of exercises as prescribed.We've created a subculture based around mythical routines in a gym everyday or every other day because we need to fit them into our 7 day week and 30 day month. Your body doesn't work on this clock and never will. If you give this a chance for only 6 months you will see that you will get stronger every single workout....guaranteed. The affect of strength gain is muscle compensation by means of growth provided by the necessary stimulus. You don't get larger and stronger muscles because you lift weights for an hour per day. You get larger muscles because of progressive overload with adequate recuperation. It's science, not guesswork. Have you ever wondered why so many people say that they had to switch up their routine to shock the muscles. All they did was jumpstart their motivation from a tedious daily ritual that goes against muscle building science and breeds boredom. If I put you through one of my workouts you would most likely vomit when we were done. I switch up my routine every workout with the same exercise. When I've gotten strong enough to handle more reps in the desired rep range, it's time to increase the load, not the angle of approach. I can take less rest from one movement to the next. Trust me, it is not physiologically possible for your muscles to know that you've changed their angle of attack. They will recognize an increase in load and respond accordingly by growing. Any more exercise after this momentary muscular failure is counterproductive and will eat into the gateways of muscle growth and strength. I am done my workouts in less than a half hour and on squat days I've sometimes had to sit on the gym floor for 10 minutes before I could walk again. I went from beginning dumbbell presses of 80 pounds each with 8 reps to the big 140 pounders with 7 reps currently after 1 year. Perfect form and working to failure are the hardest obstacles to get over as a beginner, but once you realize how safe failure really is you'll seek out for the truth that it is.

One year ago these were my stats:
Age: 37
Weight: 180
Arms: 15 1/2
Chest: 46
Waist 34 (a tight 34)

Currently:

Age: 38
Weight: 192
Arms: 18 1/2
Chest:49
Waist: 31/32

You've been willing to explore something as radical as PE. Do yourself a favor and do a search on HIT (High Intensity Training). There is no sticking with it. Results are immediately measurable by the next workout. Eat a well balanced diet and you will attain your goals. Don't fall prey to the "what can I ingest to make myself better" way of thinking. Eat well, sleep well and bust your ass like an animal when you're in the gym once every 3-5 days and you can reach your genetic potential in a year's time. And remember....you heard it here.

Dang I was asking for 2 cents and I got 2 grand instead !! great business LOL
Dude! thank you so much man for ur support !!
Im a newbie to both GYM's. I know the weight I gained is not muscle, but Im being told by everyone that the only way to make my muscles bigger is by increasing the load on each set, so to accomplish that i need to gain weight to have more lifting power.
So far, I am going monday to saturday to the gym. Currently this is what Im doing:
Monday - Bis and forearms
Tuesday - Triceps and Shoulders
Wednesday - Legs and core (15 mins on the treadmill)
Thursday - Back
Friday - Chest
Saturday - Legs and core (some running too)

I dont know much about it so I have to stick to the advice I get. Do you think hitting the gym everyday isnt good for what I need which is gaining muscle mass?

Thanks again buddy !

[wantitbigger Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close wantitbigger]

I suggest when coming off the 90 day program to hire Big Al for at least one month, maybe 3 at the most. I feel I missed out at that point because I didn't know about Big Al until late last year. I aimlessly did programs for over a year, and though I gained, I wonder if it could have been better.

I feel Big Al will teach you how to progress and pick the best exercises for your goals. After that, it is pretty easy to do it on your own.

Hey dude thanks for joining the thread, now, wut do u mean by hiring BigAl??

[wantitbigger Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close wantitbigger]

Aye!
Keep a long term view and drink lots of erection tea.

Erection tea !!? I never heard of that, sounds funny tho! u mean green tea??

[Samurai Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Samurai]

Hey man, I too am trying to get a bigger cock AND bigger body. You put on 17 pounds in a short space of time. You must have been eating tons of food. do you recommend the ON Muscle Mass? I bought the ON 100% Whey Protein. It's good for protein but not for calories. I'm vegetarian so I won't eat the meat or fish so my choice of protein is less than yours. Could you tell me how many calories you are eating per day to make such big gains in weight?