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  • #16
    Dude, I was about to buy the same one, but I was advised to take the Serious Mass till I reach 10 pounds or so over my desired weight, LIFT HARD, then switch to the 100% whey while reducing weight to my desired overall weight.
    As you may have read, tangstactic put up some great piece of data above. Im waiting on his reply to see what should I change to maximize muscle mass gains, so stay tuned buddy.

    I take it with egg whites, whole milk and oat, and alter flavors between fruits, peanut butter, natural orange and/or grapefruit juice. I also eat a sweet potato oven cooked about an hour before hitting the gym as it contains carbs which should help u lift harder.

    Take this as my 2 cents dude, but Im a newbie seeking advice, not a vet. giving advice! Keep us posted on ur progress!
    wantitbigger
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    Last edited by wantitbigger; 01-29-2011, 12:55 PM.

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    • #17
      I'm waiting for his reply too I was just worried about those weight gainers having so much sugar in them. I'm just going to join a gym, but only using it once every 3-5 days (tangtastic's routine) doesn't seem like good value in a membership, lol. Good luck with your gains, dude.
      Start : BPEL 6.4" x MEG 4.75"
      Latest : BPEL 7.0" x MEG 5.00"

      Short Term Goal : BPEL 7.5" x MEG 5.25"
      Long Term Goal : BPEL 8" x MEG 6"

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      • #18
        Here's what erection tea is : erection tea

        Except you can switch out the regular tea with green tea.

        I understand that finding time for another thing to consume is hard.. I workout too and I have times for when I eat what( It's effective, i put on 25 pounds of muscle in year and a half.. and 10 of those pounds came in just a month).. but just drink it whenever get a chance..watching TV, relaxing, or whatever.. it won't fill you up.
        Starting (january 05, 2011):
        BPEL: ~5.5?" X 4.25"?
        Current:
        BPEL: 6.5"X 4.5"
        My Log

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        • #19
          DAANG 25 pounds of muscle !!?? Dude how did u do that???

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          • #20
            DAANG 25 pounds of muscle !!?? Dude how did u do that???
            Lol..it took time and effort man.. and when I started I was only 125 lbs..Everytime I plateaued, I increased my caloric intake and changed up my workout routine, by either adding a variation of the workout, adding more reps, or adding more weight.. whatever it took. The thing is yo body will always adapt and your always going to have to do something different eventually.
            Starting (january 05, 2011):
            BPEL: ~5.5?" X 4.25"?
            Current:
            BPEL: 6.5"X 4.5"
            My Log

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            • #21
              Originally posted by wanthis View Post
              Lol..it took time and effort man.. and when I started I was only 125 lbs..Everytime I plateaued, I increased my caloric intake and changed up my workout routine, by either adding a variation of the workout, adding more reps, or adding more weight.. whatever it took. The thing is yo body will always adapt and your always going to have to do something different eventually.
              What is plateaued? What would be a variation of workout. As far as calories Im taking over 2k per day.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by wantitbigger View Post
                Hey dude thanks for joining the thread, now, wut do u mean by hiring BigAl??

                Ah, sorry, meCoach

                Male Enhancement Coach

                Not sure what it is for a month, but if you are lost, $20-30 is nothing for long term gains IMO.
                My progress notes

                Goal: approx 7.25 EL x 5.7 EG - Length for me, Girth for her:biggrin1:

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                • #23
                  if you're new, there are lots of great threads about gaining lean muscle effectively and about losing weight quickly in the exercise forum, check it out.

                  as for supplements that might help your progress be quicker - multivitamins, zinc, magnesium, dhea, omega 3,6,9, are all great. they will make your body healthier and boost your overall feeling of well being. these will help you in the gym as well as PE.
                  The force is strong with you young Skywalker. Obi Wan has trained you well.

                  before: 6X4.5
                  now: 7X5
                  next: 8X6

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                  • #24
                    What is plateaued? What would be a variation of workout. As far as calories Im taking over 2k per day.
                    Its when you stop gaining mass or strength.. usually strength. And variation would be for example I would be doing bench presses for a while.. then once i stop getting stronger each week.. I start doing dumbell flys and inclined dumbell presses to it.. and yea as long as those calories keep giving you result stay with it.
                    Starting (january 05, 2011):
                    BPEL: ~5.5?" X 4.25"?
                    Current:
                    BPEL: 6.5"X 4.5"
                    My Log

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                    • #25
                      HERE are the 3 things you should have in your PE regiment. Obtain adequate rest,Gradually increase the intensity, Be on the look out of your PI. This is where I break it up for you.

                      1 like excerising the body the penis also needs rest and to recover so it can start the growth process.

                      2. Gradually increase the intensity. By this I mean gradually increase the intensity this is not go full blown to advanced techniques. Rather say add another 2 minutes to stretches or edging ect. The key to this is doing it in baby steps .

                      3. I believe peopl neglect this very much. By paying attention to your penis and how it reacts to excerises. This you tell you if a particlur excerise is working for you. Or if it is not working for you. I also highly recommend this have a log of your PI's . Especially inside your progress log.

                      Hope this helps !! Good luck on more gains to come!!

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                      • #26
                        Yes you complain about not getting answers, as much as we try to help you can take some responsibility for yourself? If you gained keep at it etc. In fact did you gain? You were asked but didn't answer.

                        I can't attest to the efficacy of green tea as suggested by going and tested by many, but do I agree with NP97 about dedication, that's #1, but I'm also a big advocate of edging. I think ballooning has a lot of potential too but most people don't have the patience to get to the point where it's effective for size or for full body orgasms etc. I'm not there myself with ballooning yet by the way.
                        Foreskins are friends.

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                        • #27
                          wantitbigger i was 130pounds about 6months ago and now i am 155pounds. Once you master a dieting routine you can put on weight quick as hell. but watch out for the pot belly. i did not have a pot belly or any kind of belly before i was just skinny as shit looking like a tooth pick. i recently just started my own ab routine and my abs are getting a little more cut every week. you should watch your carbohydrate intake since you want to lose some fat off the belly.
                          Currently
                          NBPEL: 7inch
                          Girth: 5.50

                          Goal
                          NBPEL:8-9inch
                          Girth:7.50-8

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                          • #28
                            I'll chime in again. As in PE, we need to get some of our terminology straight. Weight is simply a loose measurement that a scale conveys. Your muscle mass to fat ratio is an entirely different thing. Two people of the same height and weight can look entirely different in person.

                            I stopped using the term weight loss over a year ago. We should concentrate on fat loss and work to increase lean muscle mass. Increasing sets with weight is the time old adage of marathon workouts with slow gains. If you truly are seeking the scientific and fastest route to increasing lean muscle mass while decreasing fat levels then High Intensity Exercise is the simplest and safest route. Overuse injuries abound in the longterm application of these prescribed multi set workouts that you read about in Muscle magazines and from gym rats' mouths at your local health club. Don't buy into them. I'm not here selling something, simply showing others the light. You don't need all those protein shakes and crap they sell at GNC to gain muscle mass. If you were from the Sudan and wanted to be a body builder I would make the assumption that the availability of whole foods with proper nutrients may not be as available to you as the average American. But since you live here, these are simply burning holes in your pockets and many have empty calories full of sugar.

                            Now, back to the meat of it all. You do not need an arsenal of movements and angles to reach your fitness goals in the gym. Increasing the intensity on the same exercise by approximately 5 percent is more than enough to stimulate the next growth response if you've surpassed the previous sticking point where you failed last time. Gains of 30% in strength are the norm in the first 3 months. How many other routines can claim this, and prove it in every case study?. When I first started this routine I was as skeptical as I was with PE. However, like PE, I was seeking truth, not the get in line and follow the routines of the masses methodology. HIT simply makes sense no matter how you slice it. It can be conveyed like this....you can strike a stick of dynamite with a hammer on concrete 20 times, but only one properly placed of those 20 blows is necessary to cause an explosion. If it took twenty until it exploded, should I make it law that 20 strikes is the necessary amount of strikes to cause an explosion? So why do you increase the load in progressive sets with weight until you've done 3 sets of 10 with progressive resistance? Why 10? You leave a lot on the plate (so to speak) if you follow this routine or similar pyramid routines. If you did a light warmup set and went right to the maximum you could bench between 5 to 8 times and failed at 6 then you would start with that same weight next time and I guarantee that at least in the beginning months you would surpass 10 reps with the same weight on the very next schedule you worked that exercise. That's when the little light goes on in your head that you're onto something that makes sense and rewards you for your efforts. And when I speak of momentary muscular failure I'm not talking about saying to yourself enough is enough...but hand shaking, leg quivering and heart pounding gut busting will not allow for the completion of one more rep. Simply put...this is the essence of Momentary Muscular Failure and it's the proven way to add muscle mass and decrease fat in every disciple that finds this path. No secret exercises, no crazy diets or supplements. Just a whole bunch of soul searching to see if you have it in you to truly test yourself every time you reach for the weights instead of following someone's marathon routine and hoping for the best.

                            The necessary rest of at least 48 - 72 hours is mandatory to let your recuperative abilities kick in. This is really non-negotiable, as you will almost always have some level of muscle pain after every workout. Only those with recuperative, anabolic steroids could attack their muscles the same way the next day...and I don't care how genetically gifted you are. This leads me to aerobic exercise. Aerobic exercise is defined as the elevation of heart rate into a metabolic burning state for a minimum of 20 minutes. Notice that I did not mention the mindless movement of your legs in repetitive acts like running, cycling and climbing the road to no where on a stair master or eliptical contraption. These are aerobic exercises but by no means define the aerobic state. And for those of you that are still not on board, I have some horrible news for you that you can't refute from any reputable source. If aerobic exercises like running, cycling and stair climbing burn less calories than high intensity weight training while you're doing them....how many calories is that activity burning an hour after you've left the gym? The answer is ZERO!!!! High intensity Weight training with little to no rest between the prescribed workout will have you panting like a schoolgirl and almost ready to feel your heart leave your chest. And the beauty of it all is that it's the gift that keeps on giving. The entire time that you're away from the gym until you've recuperated your body is burning calories to aid itself in building muscle mass and eating fat stores to ward off the possible recurrence of a stress like the one it just experienced. And herein lies the rub. The more running, cycling and stair climbing you do, the more your body cannibalizes itself by eating muscle mass to allow you to get better at a sport specific activity. Do any of you want to look like a marathon runner? Do they seem like the picture of health to you? This is the result of improper exercise science...an ill balanced lifestyle where more running is now necessary to burn the same amount of calories because there is less muscle to consume and burn calories the way nature made you. Take a guess which method Olympic male gymnasts use. It shouldn't take long. And I don't know who among us wouldn't trade our physiques for the look of an Olympic gymnast save a few hardcore muscleheads who've been watching too many Mr. Olympia competitions to see who can ingest the most steroids in a year without dying.

                            Folks, to each his own. But again, if you've come this far in your PE endeavor and want to reach a true self fulfillment and eye opening experience in exercise science...do yourself a favor and google high intensity training. It's tough, it's effective and it works every time on everybody. Who among us wouldn't trade an hour or more in the gym 5 days a week for one 20 minute workout every 3-5 days? Even if they both yield the same results, wouldn't the obvious choice be the one that required less waste to achieve the same result? Give it a shot if you really want to stop listening to the supplement nonsense and start seeking truth not only in PE, but in all the things that strive to make you a better person. Muscle growth and strength increases are the result of your body's natural built-in instinct to heal and repair itself before something so traumatic happens again. When you look at it this way, you understand that a 110% effort is simply impossible for your physiology to handle every day, and gains will cease if you become your own worst obstacle in becoming the best "you" that you can be.

                            Sorry....couldn't say it in less words.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by wantitbigger View Post
                              Green tea huh, ok.. something else to add to my diet. I dont know where Im gonna put it as Im eating more than I can but.. if it works its gotta go in :-D thanks bro for the help!
                              Also, what do u mean by "flushed flaccids?
                              My flaccid penis is "chubby" throughout the day: 8" x 6".

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by DownLow View Post
                                Ah, sorry, meCoach

                                Male Enhancement Coach

                                Not sure what it is for a month, but if you are lost, $20-30 is nothing for long term gains IMO.
                                Maybe when I get a job, seems like a good idea. Like a personal trainer but online.


                                Originally posted by RockstarParkingDude View Post
                                if you're new, there are lots of great threads about gaining lean muscle effectively and about losing weight quickly in the exercise forum, check it out.

                                as for supplements that might help your progress be quicker - multivitamins, zinc, magnesium, dhea, omega 3,6,9, are all great. they will make your body healthier and boost your overall feeling of well being. these will help you in the gym as well as PE.
                                Thanks for replying bro, but Im not trying to lose weight dude, actually Im gaining. What I say about my belly is that it got roundish like heavy beer drinkers. So those supplements u think that will speed up the gains a little?


                                Originally posted by wanthis View Post
                                Its when you stop gaining mass or strength.. usually strength. And variation would be for example I would be doing bench presses for a while.. then once i stop getting stronger each week.. I start doing dumbell flys and inclined dumbell presses to it.. and yea as long as those calories keep giving you result stay with it.
                                Ooh, so basically is hitting the same muscle with a different exercise. Didnt think of that. Thanks again dude!


                                Originally posted by Danner View Post
                                HERE are the 3 things you should have in your PE regiment. Obtain adequate rest,Gradually increase the intensity, Be on the look out of your PI. This is where I break it up for you.

                                1 like excerising the body the penis also needs rest and to recover so it can start the growth process.

                                2. Gradually increase the intensity. By this I mean gradually increase the intensity this is not go full blown to advanced techniques. Rather say add another 2 minutes to stretches or edging ect. The key to this is doing it in baby steps .

                                3. I believe peopl neglect this very much. By paying attention to your penis and how it reacts to excerises. This you tell you if a particlur excerise is working for you. Or if it is not working for you. I also highly recommend this have a log of your PI's . Especially inside your progress log.

                                Hope this helps !! Good luck on more gains to come!!
                                Hey man, thanks for ur tips ! I'll stick to them. Like I said, Im on day 6 of training, so I'll add some intensity on the stretches and maybe some more jelq and V jelq reps. Sorry about asking this but, how do I get a progress log? Or what exactly did u mean by "inside your progress log"?


                                Originally posted by aidan784 View Post
                                Yes you complain about not getting answers, as much as we try to help you can take some responsibility for yourself? If you gained keep at it etc. In fact did you gain? You were asked but didn't answer.

                                I can't attest to the efficacy of green tea as suggested by going and tested by many, but do I agree with NP97 about dedication, that's #1, but I'm also a big advocate of edging. I think ballooning has a lot of potential too but most people don't have the patience to get to the point where it's effective for size or for full body orgasms etc. I'm not there myself with ballooning yet by the way.
                                Dude, I didnt complain! I got tons of answers in this forum. But when I asked that I didnt get any, it was the only question I didnt get replied to. I mentioned it cause its pretty weird not getting answers here.
                                That said, I didnt really gain, or better said my gains were flaccid volume.
                                I will put dedication once again bro, I dont know what edging nor ballooning is but I'll read it while I get to day 90 again. Quick question, how do u recognize 'the point of its effectiveness'? Thanks bro.


                                Originally posted by jmula View Post
                                wantitbigger i was 130pounds about 6months ago and now i am 155pounds. Once you master a dieting routine you can put on weight quick as hell. but watch out for the pot belly. i did not have a pot belly or any kind of belly before i was just skinny as shit looking like a tooth pick. i recently just started my own ab routine and my abs are getting a little more cut every week. you should watch your carbohydrate intake since you want to lose some fat off the belly.
                                Hey bro, thanks again! What do u take for carbs? About weight dude, Im eating more than I can bro. I end up looking like when I get off them gym after every meal!
                                As of my belly, its not a pot belly. Its got roundish like full of air. So I want to hit the abs quicker cause I hate ho it looks honestly.


                                Originally posted by going411by7 View Post
                                My flaccid penis is "chubby" throughout the day: 8" x 6".
                                Got it! thanks.

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