Shrinkage after session?

[nightowl85 Member Find all posts View Profile Close nightowl85]

How do you know you had a productive session? I've just started with the 90 days routine. I warmed up first, stretched and then did some jelqing. After that I warmed down. Question regarding that, what's the latest? Do you actually "warm down" or do you "cool off" after every session.

Anyway after warming down, my penis kind of shrinked in size and was kind of hard inside (not erected!). Is that a bad thing? Shouldn't it be fluffy and all?

[Keido Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Keido]

Sounds like you went too strenuously in that session. Wait until your flaccid isn't hard any longer and go easier with your next session (lighter grip and/or not pulling as hard when you stretch).

[nightowl85 Member Find all posts View Profile Close nightowl85]

Okay. And I thought I was going a little too easy on myself. But I think I did have a pretty hard grip during the jelqing. I also stretched it almost to its erect size, didn't hurt though. The warming up made it very "stretchy".

Another important question:

When I jelq I move the OK grip from the bone to the end of the shaft and hold the grip there as I move my other hand towards it. Am I suppose to release the grip when I'm at the end of the shaft in order to start with the other hand, or am I suppose to hold the grip till the other hand almost reaches it, and then release? I hope I make sense here.

[Radiohead Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Radiohead]

You are experiencing negative PIs.

After a workout, you don't want your penis to turtle (get really small and hard). You're jelqing grip is too strenuous. Lighten it up a bit.

You want to cool down with cold water/cold pads after a session. As you cool down your penis, stretch it slightly. This will ''freeze'' it in place. (it doesn't actually freeze, but that's the idea.)

Here is how you jelq:
1) Lube up your penis and your hands
2) Make an OK grip with both hands
3) Place both the OK grips at the base of your penis and grip it lightly
4) Milk your penis with the top OK grip hand while you squeeze gently with your bottom OK grip hand
5) Stop your top OK grip hand just below the glans
6) Now place that top OK grip hand back at the base of your penis (below the other hand), while the other hand milks your penis. Alternate between both hands (left goes to the top, then left goes back at the base, right goes to the top, then right goes back to the base...left, right, left, right)

Both hands need to be on the penis at the same time, at all times. The hand that is at the base of your dick has to squeeze a bit of blood into your penis.

I hope this explains it well.

The 90 day beginner routine might be a little intense for some beginners.

Try:
1) warm up
2) basic stretch (5 way)
3) rotating stretches
4) 75 wet jelqs
5) cool down + simple 1 way stretch (stretch out forward)

[Hairtrigger Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hairtrigger]

Okay. And I thought I was going a little too easy on myself. But I think I did have a pretty hard grip during the jelqing. I also stretched it almost to its erect size, didn't hurt though. The warming up made it very "stretchy".

Another important question:

When I jelq I move the OK grip from the bone to the end of the shaft and hold the grip there as I move my other hand towards it. Am I suppose to release the grip when I'm at the end of the shaft in order to start with the other hand, or am I suppose to hold the grip till the other hand almost reaches it, and then release? I hope I make sense here.

It doesn't take much at first to make a big difference, keep everything light as possible until you understand how to do the exercises properly. Also stretching too much and gripping too tight can cause what you have described. You need to go ahead and take about a week off but continue with the warmups only everyday, I know you don't want to hear this right now but it is the right thing to do. One more thing did you have any red dots or any other signs associated with too much intensity?

Hold the top grip for a couple of seconds before moving the bottom grip. After you slide your bottom grip forward you will feel the pressure increase at your top grip, when you feel this go ahead and release it.

[PESG Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close PESG]

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[Tommylpsg Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Tommylpsg]

Is the cool down technique now the standard quo after a PE session? I know a while back it used to be warm up and warm down, but now a lot of people seem to be going with the cool down. I read a post pointing to the benefits of cooling down with reguards to solidifying the ligiment stretch, but what about the jelq results. I have just been doing a light newbie routine and through in some very light uli's in my last PE session. After the session my penis was feeling great and hanging very thick. I had my shower afterwards as I usually do, and then proceeded with a cool wrap and almost immediately the thickness went away. Now, I noticed I was hanging still about an inch longer, so the stretch was still in effect, but was kind of bummed that heavy feeling was gone.
I know icing an injury brings down inflamation and reduces damage, but arn't we trying to cause "micro" injury so the penis responds and grows larger to be able to withstand the pressure next time?
So my question is, would a cool down be best for a seperate, but complimentary stretch routine to solidify the stretching of the ligaments or is it beneficial overall?

[PESG Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close PESG]

Make sure you are doing some light stretching while you are cooling down.

I'm not very sure of the science behind cooling down. But I will say this: I have noticed that there is virtually no difference in my flaccid after a cool-down than I used to have after doing nothing at the end of my session. There are people that gain well with cool-downs. There are also people that gain well after warming-down when they are done. There are ALSO people who gain well when they do nothing after their routine.

Experiment with all methods and see which one gives you the best, fullest, and healthiest looking flaccid hang. Then stick with that. For some people, that's cooling, for some it's warming, for some it's absolutely nothing.


Oh, and buddy - if you are doing a beginner routine, then you SHOULD NOT BE DOING ULIS. I don't care if they are light pressure and that you haven't seen any negative effects. A Uli is an advanced exercise that should only be implemented on a conditioned penis. It could only take one 2-second Uli where your grip is too hard and WHAM - you have an injury that will set you back 2-3 weeks.

Is the cool down technique now the standard quo after a PE session? I know a while back it used to be warm up and warm down, but now a lot of people seem to be going with the cool down. I read a post pointing to the benefits of cooling down with reguards to solidifying the ligiment stretch, but what about the jelq results. I have just been doing a light newbie routine and through in some very light uli's in my last PE session. After the session my penis was feeling great and hanging very thick. I had my shower afterwards as I usually do, and then proceeded with a cool wrap and almost immediately the thickness went away. Now, I noticed I was hanging still about an inch longer, so the stretch was still in effect, but was kind of bummed that heavy feeling was gone.
I know icing an injury brings down inflamation and reduces damage, but arn't we trying to cause "micro" injury so the penis responds and grows larger to be able to withstand the pressure next time?
So my question is, would a cool down be best for a seperate, but complimentary stretch routine to solidify the stretching of the ligaments or is it beneficial overall?

[Tommylpsg Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Tommylpsg]

Thanks for the info PEsuccessGuy

[nightowl85 Member Find all posts View Profile Close nightowl85]

You are experiencing negative PIs.
(left goes to the top, then left goes back at the base, right goes to the top, then right goes back to the base...left, right, left, right)

Hold the top grip for a couple of seconds before moving the bottom grip. After you slide your bottom grip forward you will feel the pressure increase at your top grip, when you feel this go ahead and release it.

Thanks for the answers! It seems you two are not jelqing the same way, does that mean I should find my own path or is there a correct technique? I've read the Beginners Manual but it's not detailed enough. This is one of those questions where you really need a proper 'how to do' video. There is one video here on how to do jelqing, but to me it seems more like a video on how NOT to jelq as a beginner. I'm not retarder or anything, I just want to make sure I'm doing it right.

Regarding negative PIs and shrinkage, I know it's not a good thing but what exactly does that mean? You claim I'm putting my penis through too much stress and I assume it can be directly harmful, but now it's come to the point where I'm practically caressing my penis instead of jelqing, and I still get the shrinkage. This is a step backwards since I used to do penis exercise before (extender) but I had to stop for a while because I wasn't in a position where I could do it on a daily basis. Then I came back and decided to give it a new try: no extenders, only jelqing according to the 90 days routine and beyond. That's my story so far. So how can my penis be so sensitive? I'm not really a beginner on PE, altough I have quit and started over again as stated above. An intresting thing is that after masturbation/sex my penis shrinks too. So does the shrinkage in case of jelqing really means that I'm doing something wrong or does it simply mean that it's in my penis' nature to shrink after erection - regardless if we're talking sex or jelqing.

[Scipio Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Scipio]

Hmmmm, when it shrinks, do you get a firm flaccid, or does it feel normal?

About JP's 90 days routine, it could simply be it's to much for you, I know it was for me, you could always try doing less than recommended in the routine, and see if it makes anny difference.