Clenching BC-PC during sex

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Well you seem like perhaps the only one on this forum who effortlessly can acheive dry orgasms. but for those who don't have this ability and cum really fast during intercourse, most likely the problem is 'overkegeling'.

Can anybody else here claim to 'go thru the PONR' or 'acheive dry orgasms'?

Ther are numerous people on this forum who dry orgasm, read kp's (vey long) thread edging 101.

Look it is very simple, achieve contol and timing and strength in your kegals and you will be in control.
No need to breath through your heart charkra, or astral travel. It is not complex ,but it does require training and dedication.

[pe_ZEN Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pe_ZEN]

Just reading the edging 101 thread is not going to make you achieve dry orgasms, LOL, Pegasus you make it sound that way.

there are many guys who come to this forum frustrated because they ejaculate fast in intercourse. A history of fast squirting while wanking can be a real obstacle to successful ejaculate retention (what you call, dry orgasms). Just because you can hold your load in, does NOT mean you have dry orgasms...

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Many guys have have become dry orgasmic from the info in that thread. I am also trying to help this achievment as I believe you are.

Yes there are many fustrated quick ejaculators here and we aim to help them.

Ejaculate retention is not the same as dry orgasm,I do not confuse them nor should you.
I do know what an orgasm is. Your suggestion is that I don't I gather? I am amused.

[pe_ZEN Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pe_ZEN]

No I'm not suggesting that but I am confused on the terminology; and many others are,

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Yes, a terminology for edging is a relatively new thing.
Because my method is very straight foward, I find it difficult to understand when other people are talking about it.
Yet they are often doing something similar in concept, but with lots of confusing detail.
Other times the concept is different.

[timberw Member Find all posts View Profile Close timberw]

Here is an update. For the past few days I have been working on edging without kegeling. At first I couldn't even get a proper erection without clenching. But little by little I got the hang of it. This morning I was able to edge for about twenty minutes with a good erection, kegelling only sporadically, when I felt the erection begin to wane. Of course someone had to use the bathroom so I had to stop and I never even reached a PONR. This week my wife had a period so I was able to abstain from any sexual activity so that helped. I think that is a key for me. No masterbation. I know some guys on this forum can have sex six times a day, PE for two hours, and masterbate another four times, but I can't. I can't PE four times a week, masterbate and expect to please my wife properly 2-3 times a week. So I haven't tried this with sex yet, but things are starting to look positive. Thanks again for the advice. I will keep this thread updated every few days.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

It will be interesting to compare the experiences of your pc relax group ,compared to the pc control guys zen.