Years ago, I listened to the experts and the scientists

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For those who've read my intro post, the story I told was an incomplete story. I had certainly accepted my average equipment as destiny years ago, but the background story is a bit more nuanced. There was a girl I was seeing at the time, and within the course of a conversation we had, she unknowingly crushed my spirit. I somehow mentioned how 6 was average, and she casually and matter-of-factly stated "6 is too small." We hadn't been intimate yet, and I didn't want to come out and tell her I was in the 6s myself. On the inside, however, I ready to jump off a tall building. That was the beginning of a neurosis. It became something I couldn't stop thinking about. One night shortly after, I saw a commercial for a first of its kind product (at least to my knowledge), extenze male enhancement pills. At first i felt hopeful, and I even started searching the web for more info on it. Around this time penis pills were starting to become a thing that was taken seriously. A more legitimate sounding product hit the maybe a few months after - smiling bob anyone? I felt hopeful and optimistic. I started reading more and more and doing more research, and I started coming across forums about males enhancement. It seemed like at the time every other site wanted your money. I wasn't about to give them my money, lol. I did find a few forum sites who while seeming a little on the sleazy side did give out free info on male enhancement excercises. I continued to read and research until I started reading the thoughts of "legitimate" "experts" and urologists. I recall one particular article in which a doctor described the anotomy of the penis, and how the only way to actually increase the size would be to increase the tissue and how that's impossible to do naturally. It was like a brick to the face. Here were legitimate scientists explaining legitimately scientific concepts, and I had no choice but to listen and concede. I even within myself dismissed the concept of male enhancement in my own thinking. I was quickly able to explain away the promises of penis pills, by pointing out how "more blood doesn't mean 'bigger' it just means as big as you can possibly get, derp." I believed the "experts" who dismissed the pe community as a band of tricksters, and jelqing as simply advanced masturbation techniques that while maki g you feel good will be of little use. This was 10 years ago. I ultimately did the 'mature' and 'intelligent' thing and accepted what I had. At this point though the science has started to catch up somewhat to the reality of the situation. There are some credible studies on it. My understanding of the science has evolved as well. I may do a post on the theory page about it at some point. I said all this to say: where would I be had I not listened to the experts? In 10 years what kind of gains could I have gained. I won't make that mistake again.

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Guys had told her their 6" dick was 8" so when you said 6" she had an image of a 4" dick.

So all your angst was needless.

[thenewdude Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close thenewdude]

That last question is really unanswerable. There are stall times, genetics, health, etc... which allow one to gain or not gain much at all even within ten years.
I know you might say you don't know how average size guys feel, I will say this anyway: It is not the size of the penis that gets the girl or build confidence in one self. If one incorporates self esteem on the size of the shlong than the dude need a psychologist for real. And if a dude thinks that whipping out the monster shlong will get him lay. It will in the county jail after she calls the po-pos for flashing, sexual assault or indecency.

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You've learned from the past, but to dwell on what could have been is frustrating and fruitless. NOW is what matters, and your future is what you make of it

[SquiddlyDee Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SquiddlyDee]

Doctors are funny creatures, they'll tell you all about why it can't work because they haven't seen any strict medical studies. Never that it could work for the exact same reason...

[Sincere_effort Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Sincere_effort]

That last question is really unanswerable. There are stall times, genetics, health, etc... which allow one to gain or not gain much at all even within ten years.
I know you might say you don't know how average size guys feel, I will say this anyway: It is not the size of the penis that gets the girl or build confidence in one self. If one incorporates self esteem on the size of the shlong than the dude need a psychologist for real. And if a dude thinks that whipping out the monster shlong will get him lay. It will in the county jail after she calls the po-pos for flashing, sexual assault or indecency.

I agree with all points presented, but to the first point yeah there are plenty variables, but by not doing anything I've replaced "possibility" of something with an "absolute" of nothing. I agree about not vesting too much of your self esteem on penis size, but if it's something that bothers you, but it's something that can be improved with good ol fashion hard work and commitment then there's some self esteem to be gained not just from the gains themself, but more than anything from the fact that you could go out and make those gains. And also, I have no interest in being that creepy guy who's too eager to whip it out. Such a guy does so bc he feels he has little else to offer as a man and as a human being. I'm driven, I'm intelligent, I'm ambitious, so for me, an above average endowment is just icing on the cake. At best I see it as something of a missing piece that would put me over the top in terms of how I assess my own desirability. At worst I see it as noteworthy but not important.

[Sincere_effort Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Sincere_effort]

Doctors are funny creatures, they'll tell you all about why it can't work because they haven't seen any strict medical studies. Never that it could work for the exact same reason...

Ikr, I suspect it's just an intelligent person bringing their own biases and fatalism into their professional judgement. It's all the worse bc as a doctor or scientist you're respected and relied upon as an authoritative voice. They have to be a voice of certainty and assurance. And they have to be strong in their opinions and beliefs. Such a disposition doesn’t always lend itself to open mindedness, or willingness to entertain many new possibilities.

[thenewdude Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close thenewdude]

I will agree that doing nothing results in nothing even if bad or good. But if you do start, make it a personal journey and goal without the main cause due to insecurity about size. We all have our own perspectives on how we view our size whether it be from body mass, height, (a screwed up mirror! LOL) and even past experiences on a sexual level. Some do it for better EQ dealing with erectile issues alone. But by all means don't let it be for the sake of making you feel like a confident man in bed due to size. You already are a man! And confidence just means to trust in/with which comes by what you or others do to build on that trust which has nothing to do with size at all.