No gains after 3 months! Please help!!

[White_Hawk Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close White_Hawk]

Ok so I'm going crazy right now... I'm almost done with JP's beginner routine and I gained absolutely NOTHING. This is'nt my first time PEing, as I've PE'ed back in 04 and 07, but quit after like 2 months, but at the time I did see some gains... Right now i'm at BPEL 6.2~3 inches... No length gains whatsoever in 3 months... I know I can't be doing something wrong, as my girth increased a bit, and I get harder easier, and my erections are way harder than before. But no length gains... what should I do?? Please give me advice on a new routine.. I was thinking of maybe doing some hanging... but I don't have the money to buy a device...

PLEASE HELP... Thanks!

[Squid Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Squid]

Hey Hawk. Here is the thing... you made some gain. It just happens to be girth and EQ. But that is gain. If you are looking into more length, maybe it is time to up the stretching or start hanging weights. There is plenty info on the site for length focused PE. Just focus more on that if that is your main goal. Good job so far!

[scythe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close scythe]

I guess it is time for you to move on to more advanced stretches. Basic Stretching did not yield any length gains for you because you had done them twice before in 04 and 07.
I think you should do V-Stretch, A-Stretch and DLD Blasters. You can also try Blue Whale's Mandingo Stretch.

You can try Redzulu's Length only routine, which has all the above mentioned exercises: Want a routine? have a look

Length only routine

Exercises used:

DLD blasters
DLD squat behind the cheek stretch rotaries
Blue_Whale's Ultimate PE exercise ''mandingo secret''
DLD Expressive stretches


The DLD blasters are the best proven manuel length exercise in existence, with more results from that than anyother manuel pe exercise, this is a fact. It has grown more inches than anything else and was dld's bread and butter in the start, but also made his length what it is, thanks to him we have this method public for free.

The DLD squat behind the cheek rotary stretch is very intense on the ligaments and is easier to do than various methods that attack the ligament in the same manner around at the moment because little learning curve to follow and members are already reporting good results from it.

Its DLDs newest stretch and like the blasters hits the ligaments but its working with a twisting action, so the ligament is being pulled away at the base ... its not the same than as the blasters, but compliments it.

Blue_Whales ultimate PE exercise otherwise known as the ''mandingo secret'' has already helped several guys gain inches in length and is really intense method that the maker himself claims will make you huge. It works by mainly stretching the outer tunica but also some ligament, so it works differently than the prevous two exercises you will be doing here.

Lastly and a late addition to this routine is the DLD expressive stretches. These are one of a kind in that they stretch out the inner penis, the part of the penis that is inside the body and cant be seen right now. We have lots of inner penis inside of us that stretches dont target directly and only indirectly but this stretch hits it directly.

So with this routine you have ligament attack, external tunica stretching and internal tunica [inner penis] stretching, so all bases are covered for the best length results.

When to do

To start with use 2 days on 1 day off and keep doing that for 2 weeks and let me know how its going and the routine can be ammended than for more intensity aswell or swap something around maybe.

What else will I need

I would suggest if you can, purchase the power assist because you can do your manuel work much more intense with that especially with the first, third and fourth stretches I talk about here, more so with the fourth stretch.

How long before I see results

Usually in 4-8 weeks you see changes in your size but these will be temp to start with and its only after 6-8 months of regular exercise that it becomes permanent.

Heres what to do than

Warm up beforehand with a hot flannell in the sink and wrapped around your penis for approx 5-10 mins. This will loosen the tissues up and help prevent injury.

DLD blasters

One set of 15 reps holding for a good stretch until you cant hold anylonger but a guideline is around 10 seconds but increase this with time and make the stretch INTENSE and learn how to do kegels & reverse kegels for this exercise to make it more intense (formula 5sec Kegel, 5 sec Reverse Kegel = One rep. x 15).

Please read the thread on the exercise to understand more on it and it lasts 10 minutes.

DLD squat behind the cheek rotaries

One set of 15 reps eachside holding for a good stretch until the burning feeling makes you stop the hold which varies with each person but once it kicks in and you cant hold anylonger release, do it with intensity like the previous exercise.

Again 10 mins spent here

Blue_Whales Ultimate PE exercise ''Mandingo Secret''

One set of 15 reps holding for a good stretch until you cant hold anymore due to the stress but approx 10 seconds per hold is good to start with but in time aim to hold longer and do with intensity that you can manage.

Also do these bundled like the creator describes but for the first few sessions do them un-bundled to get a feel for the movement first than try it.

10 mins also spent here aswell.

DLDs expressive stretches

One set of 15 holds for a very intense stretch lasting for aslong as you can because this stretch is very poweful and intense. Try for 10 seconds and keep going for more eachtime. When you do this try not to kegel and to relax the area by doing reverse kegels, otherwise you feel more resistence in the area from the muscles.

Its best done in a power assist but if you dont have one all is not lost but its easier with the PA. More info on the expressive stretches here.

10 mins again spent with that stretch.

Lastly warm down the same as you warmed up.

Finish

That was your length routine and is useing very powerful exercises to stretch you ligaments and work the outside portion of the tunica [internal penis] for length gains plus hittng the hard to reach inner penis.

When all three areas are hit you will see length gains really well especially if you use intensity with rest and not do marathon sessions.

Total time spent it 40 minutes which is plenty of time but do make the stretches intense when you do them and if your uncut than retract your foreskin back while doing these so your not stretching loads of skin, this doenst apply with expressive stretches.

To improve grip use wrapping underneath the glans or a cloth.

Any questions please feel free to post here and if anyone wants to adopt this routine than do make your own routine thread in the routine & progress section and update on how your doing in there and not here.

Thanks

[Justin56537 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Justin56537]

Pull harder

[scythe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close scythe]

Pull harder

I think if you pull harder, it is counter-productive. It causes the penis to turtle a lot more. You should always ease into a stretch.
However, I am no expert on stretching, and am seeking answers regarding the force used for stretching, myself.

[Albert Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Albert]

One quick thought. What warm up routine are you doing? I found that when I changed from hot towel to rice sock and gave it at least 10 minutes length gains improved.

[Albert Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Albert]

I should have added that since my last recorded BPEL I have been registering 6.50 on some measurements.

[Cernunnos Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Cernunnos]

Hi, Whitehawk.

You are definitely on the right track if your EQ increased and you gained girth. Be happy, because some people go way longer than that without seeing anything at all! If you focus on length more you will surely gain in time.

Well done!

[Squid Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Squid]

Its all experimentation, but you can't get too depressed about the results. They vary for so many people.

Since I restarted last year, I have been doing a pretty strict routine of weights, stretches, clamps and jelq and in 5 months have barely got .25 of erect length. So, I keep changing the routine and trying to find my particular workout, but am not getting too beat up about it. I know my girth has improved a little so that is something. I am going to add an all day extender to my PE and see how that goes after a few months. If still nothing, I'll try something else.

Just stick with it and give yourself a year is my thought.

[White_Hawk Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close White_Hawk]

One quick thought. What warm up routine are you doing? I found that when I changed from hot towel to rice sock and gave it at least 10 minutes length gains improved.

I'm doing hot towel, 10 minutes, like Jpop's routine suggests... Rice sock? What's that?

[White_Hawk Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close White_Hawk]

Hey scythe, wow thanks alot! I think I will start with this new routine next week. However, I am a very visual type of person... Can someone please post a link to videos of the exercices mentionned in scythe's routine... I'm sorry, I'm just really bad with the internet and computers, in general.

And thanks for the cheerful comments, Squid & the others! I really appreciate it... I think that if I was part of this community back in 04 & 07, I would've never quit.

[Albert Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Albert]

I'm using a rice sock now, as I type. Get an old sock. Fill it with rice - any rice will do. Tie the top of the sock. Heat the sock in a microwave for about a minute. Experience will tell you how long depending on the amount of rice in the sock. Take care to avoid getting it too hot!!!!

Wrap rice sock around cock for 10 mins or more - which is exactly what I am doing at this moment in time before moving on to stretching and jelqing as per JP.

[b123 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close b123]

How do you do the mandingo stretch i clicked on the link but i think i have to register on that site to see it ?

[White_Hawk Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close White_Hawk]

thanks for the info albert... b123.. here you go, i took it off the site:

''The Mandingo Stretch'' As Named By Blue Whale

First of all let me say that what i am about to say is not a joke this is 100 % legit and real.
Dont ask me who i am or where i am from and how do i know what i know.
Lets just say ive been in PE waters for a long time.

I am gonna share with you an exercise thats gonna let you acomplish any PE goal you wont.

You will gain 1 inch at least in 1 month 100% guaranteed no matter what genetics you have,what skin color you are and no matter how hopeless your dick looks like.

Its a streching exercise that targets the illusive "inner dick" 10 times better then any other exercise known and whats most funny about it its that it can be done with 1 hand.

The leverage you can get with this exercise is unreal and when doing it correctly it feels like you are gonna rip your "inner dick" from the ass or from the PC mucle.

I advise extreme caution when using this exercise excessive leverage can result in a dick ripped apart from its socket.

THE EXERCISE

In a standing position grip your dick just beneath the gland with an OK sign with your palm facing down.

Now rotate your hand 180 degrees so your palm is facing upwards.Your whole dick except the glands should be on the knuckles which serves as a lever point or fulcrum but because of the rotation of the fist it also bundles your dick(bundling can be controled you can bundle your dick multiple times thats up to you) similar to DLD-s double bundled strech.

Now when you are in position where you have rotated your fist 180 degrees(or more) and your palm is facing up with you holding the dick just beneath the glands and your shaft is on you knuckles your down side of thr palm should be resting around your belly which wil enable you to generate incredible amount of force without spending energy.

Now for the final part.The way you generate leverage is simply by bringing your wrist upwards without moving any other part of your arm just using your wrist as a leverage(your fist is on the belly).You dont pull upwards like in an upward stretch rather its an adduction of the wrist shown in the 3 rd exercise on the next link http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Wr...l#anchor263084

When doing the stretch you should feel extreme sterching of the inner penis from the shaft all the way to the ass if you put your hand on the part of the dick thats closest to your ass you should feel extreme hardness.
The stretch is very painfull also.If you dont feel extreme inner dick strecth you are doing something wrong.

On little thing.If youre dick is 2 big put some pading around your knuckles so it spreads better around your knuckles enabling you more tightness.

One last thing i wanna give credit to DLD whos done great thing for PE comunity with his hard work and inovative exercises that take 1000-s of hours to be created.

[b123 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close b123]

thank you for the post but i really dont understand this lol it says grip you penis below the glans palm facing down then turn your hand so it is facing upwards and it says your whole penis should be on the knuckles except the glans but if i turn my hand 180 degrees my penis isnt on my knuckles lol is there any pictures or videos of this ?