This was my third night in a row edging with semen retention. All of the sessions lasted a few hours, mainly just because I enjoy myself. The past couple nights, and during my semi-recent burst of sexual activity, I've been doing tons of start-stop work. I get excited, feel the PONR, and then I handle it a few different ways. The other night I had my first experience where doing a kegel was actually ~helpful~ -- it was nice to see how it could be applied. Something else that's been helpful is spending some time just avoid the PONR feeling altogether.
Well tonight was so different. Wow. Throughout the session I was like, oh I should mention that, like a hundred times because I had so many wow moments where I had a cool success. Overall, the most obvious success of the session was that my length of time in action was generally and consistently much longer than it's been. Because of that, I actually stayed hard almost the entire session, whereas normally I rest all the way to a fair amount of softness many many times. But that's not all that was so good about it.
I really listened to my body. One of the ~huge~ keys for me this evening was to notice every single involuntary spiking of my dick (I think it's referred to as an involuntary kegel, but it's so pure in the muscle it targets effortlessly and strongly that I couldn't currently replicate one for squat, no matter how many kegels I've done so far). I realize when I'm jacking I do a lot of things semi-consciously to escalate the intensity: some things I do flat intentionally like it's had a month discussion planning it, and other things I do on purpose but without much thought at all, like wiping away something that just touched your face. At any rate, I listened to the ways I escalate and noticed more of them, and I totally listened to the involuntary dick spikes.
The first interesting moment was when I realized that, while jacking, as my hand hit towards the base of my shaft, I was getting spiking. Nothing major -- I'm a lifelong generalized though somewhat minor PE handler for my whole life -- I'm ~used~ to my body acting like one of those about to stall cars, lurching. But I thought, how weird, they always talk about the glans being the most sensitive part, and how like, when topping some person, you can kind of take a break by staying deep and rocking, because you're less sensitive at the base. But it was the base that was causing the spikes. Well what I did was start massaging the base, tugging at it, exploring the whole dick/body junction, and this totally ~loosed me up~ down there, to where shortly after noticing the spiking, I could now hit the base without those spikes! In retrospect, that's major! And it's the theme of my whole evening. One by one over a ton of different parts of my dick, and through several specific types of forces applied to it, I notice the ones that caused spiking, the would push the PONR phase obviously closer, and then I focused on that area.
In every case my strategy was basically the same: work with that one specific area/action until I could do it repeatedly without calling the PONR phase closer for at least a decent little window of time. Some areas improved almost immediately, like the base issue above, and some took some more dedicated work, like some glans issue, but ~every single one~ gave to my strategy. Just wow, seriously, talk about unexpected, oh nice nice nice. It's one of those moments when you see the light at the end of the tunnel, when you see the potential for real success and note obvious improvement.
The end result was more non-stop stroking. So often recently, the majority of the time, even after resting to near full softness, the horses are off and running and, no exaggeration, I'm against the PONR and stopping within 1 to 2 minutes, depending on various factors, and if I had to guess I rarely hit a full 2min. Then I stop, from anywhere from 30 seconds to a couple minutes, and take another go. It's all very fun, feels good too, but I feel like the black smoke of Lost constantly hitting a barrier that just shouldn't be there, knowing that what I ~really~ want is outside of that barrier. Then there was the session I ended moments before starting this thread: I had non-stop stroking for easily two and three times longer than my recent pattern. There were several times when I stopped for reasons not related to PONR at all. I'm not entirely sure if I hit a full 5 minutes or not at some point, but I'd guess I hit 4 a couple times, and the rest were all like, minimum full 2s and generally 3-ish. Plus as I mentioned before, I stayed hard the entire four hours mostly, only getting soft to use the bathroom and eat some snacks. It was all so much more amazing than the times make it sound: 1 to 2 min to 2+ - 4+ may see great, but overall I have to classify the evening as thunder-striking.
You see, it wasn't just the length of non-stop stroking time, it was the type, quality, and firmness of the strokes. I managed to pull of some long tight strokes, some long full shaft length strokes, some long glans milking, just boy oh boy. I felt like ever stone-solid hurdle turned it's ass up to me and said have your way. About half the time I was jacking with coconut oil as lube to avoid rubbing raw spots, and I was able to use some grip strength and not have the lube escalate me quicker.
The two most valuable things I did were: 1) notice ~every~ particular thing that caused dick spikes and PONR phase approach, and 2) slow down, get in touch with my breath, invoke the same part/action that caused the escalation, and rather than work it work it, stop, work it work it, stop, I did gradual acclimations. I would do it gently, and see the escalation then stop and rest. Then I would do it gently again until I saw the escalation, and rest. Then I'd rub, massage, squeeze the area, to ease muscles, get blood flowing there, and desensitize the area to general stimulus. Pretty soon, whatever the trigger spot or action was, I could do it all by itself for a decent length of time with no escalation! Key key key, baby. Do this from one spot to another, and boy, that was just amazing. No doubt last night was a massive growth and insight night for me that will be the first step of real change.
Towards the last 1/3 to 1/4 of my session, I had a general feeling of what was obviously just numbness in my dick generally, but not in the way that sounds bad. It was a very very good thing. It was letting my strokes for lengths of time that was making me say wow out loud. I verbally said oh my god so many times last night, not out of intense pleasure, but out of dumb-foundedness. This numbness I mentioned didn't stop the stroking from being pleasurable. Sure, in many ways it made specific things not respond as nicely in and of themselves, things that during jacking I might intentionally invoke just to escalate / bring on the good feelings -- but they were things I intentionally put in a box so I could spend more time, and the parts that left the picture opened other good doors. It wouldn't even by fair to me to call it a tradeoff -- it was all intentional choice for just exactly how I wanted it.
Towards the end of my session I made myself stop. I was like, gosh I could keep using this new toy for sure, but I'm gonna not let the novelty lure me into over-training.
I hope this post gives a few pointers to others doing edging to combat prematureness. You can freakin' bet every last cent you have that I'll be keeping this whole set of tricks in mind as I move forward!
At times due to the extra time in motion, I went through some very cool feelings of slow buildups. Usually I crescendo really really pleasurably, it's just more like uncorking wine:
pop
pop
pop
Last night I wouldn't say that I hit more pleasurable highs, I'm fully covered there, just they went more like
poooooooopp
So even if i didn't hit higher highs, there was a great pattern to the timings and buildups, and I saw the ability to push PONR off more and more and more, showing me just how much more progress is in my future. My final goal would be able to go at it full steam ahead, fast, slow, intense, or focused, but without PONR right on my heels. As a lifelong PE person knows, PONR comes on quickly enough by itself -- you can certainly jump straight to it through trying, and once there, if you try to extend your time after having hit PONR-ville, it's a hair away the rest of the time. Well last night was PONR-ville staying more where it belongs.
Also, I'd like to make this clear. I'm a good healthy boy who's been jackin' all my life. My sessions historically don't include any start/stop, they are just start, enjoy, enjoy, and blow. I'd saying it's quite usual for me to go on for fifteen minutes or more. My recent pop pattern is due to the way I'm engaging in self pleasure: focused, at it, ready to go on for hours, experimenting with edging where I don't have a single worry about getting too close to PONR. Otherwise I'd pace myself. But with edging in mind I'm free to like, sprint to PONR and get a whole lot of really really nice highs. Just, it's been all like pop pop pop. Last night I was doing the same things, the same not pacing myself acts, but getting further with it.
A thousand nice highs was great with myself and pop pop pop, but I wouldn't want to try to make a one night stand go through all that!!!
