Examples of Tests (Ruling Out Your Source of ED)

[TANGO 5/10 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close TANGO 5/10]

Uh huh .
And if your total test comes back under 500 you very very likely have an issue with low test before you even think to clutter your mind with anything else.. Which the various docs ,uro and endo could very well miss. In fact members come onsite very regular where they have gone many years and multi uro and endo without being diagnosed .

Deal with the first hurdle where so many super educated specialists have fallen first and that is total test .
It would be free test but the test for it is inaccurate.

All this it's so very complex stuff puts guys totally in the hands of mainstream medical who have repeatedly failed at the most basic level. It does members a disservice.
I tell guys again a total test level under 500 means issues do not listen to your doc ,uro or the much vaunted ebdo when they tell you (and it happens all the time ) that your 300 total test is normal and fine.

I have explained all this and more in greater detail in my thread . It is a pity butters did not read it .

Well I'm thankful my primary care physician didn't just give me the Viagra like I asked him for & looked at my testosterone.

He was explaining to me that having a total testosterone blood serum under 300 for a 35 year old man is suggesting something else is going on. I was 75 years old in a 35 year old man's body according to the age ratio testosterone scale he had. At my lowest I think it was at 270.

Endocrinologist looking at my Pituitary Gland figured out why I couldn't get erections. Nothing to do with diet , exercise , but straight up hormonally imbalance

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Well I'm thankful my primary care physician didn't just give me the Viagra like I asked him for & looked at my testosterone.

He was explaining to me that having a total testosterone blood serum under 300 for a 35 year old man is suggesting something else is going on. I was 75 years old in a 35 year old man's body according to the age ratio testosterone scale he had. At my lowest I think it was at 270.

Endocrinologist looking at my Pituitary Gland figured out why I couldn't get erections. Nothing to do with diet , exercise , but straight up hormonally imbalance

You were very fortunate many others have not been,

[Dr Nemo Senior Member Member of the Month May 2018 Find all posts View Profile Close Dr Nemo]

Uh huh .
It is a pity butters did not read it .

Well, you're using the hit or miss method. It's widely practiced on dem innerwebs! So you're not alone and I'm sure some peeps benefit.

But that's not my thing!

I crave understanding. I always want to understand; and understand deeply - what I'm doing; and also especially when I'm giving advice about anything. In my opinion, one could also easily lead a person astray with partial advice/knowledge. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing and all that. I've already given examples of how that could happen; which I could multiply for pages and pages.


As far as your thread - you must understand, I am in contact with - on a regular basis - a handful of the world's top TRT practitioners; your mind would be blown by some of the stuff that's presented at conferences; or, stuff I'm told personally. Did you know, for example, that for a half century we've been confusing Erythrocytosis & Polycythemia vera? This is huge news. Do you know that estradiol is also a neurotransmitter? The first is still bleeding edge; the second not so much. Anyway, really exciting research is going on.

I have also long belonged to an invitation-only private forum that discusses these and other matters related to male health & sports/sexual performance in very great depth. Many of them are MDs; some are chemists; some are pharma; grad students, etc.. It's a fairly august group of peeps. It's sort of a clearing house for gathering/analyzing research and discussing it; and there's, of course, a "manipulation via compounds" side too.

So, I've got my hands and reading eyes a wee bit full!

Anyway, I hope you help lots of dudes.

Peace!





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[mlh Member Find all posts View Profile Close mlh]

You are the data expert here. No wonder you're delighted. Hehe

[Trapezius Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Trapezius]

God damnit guys. OP posts very interresting information about measuring pelvic floor problems and you turn this to testosterone debate.

I didn't even know pelvic floor imbalance/problems can be measured with test. That's a real phenomenon for sure. The next question is how you recover from tight/weak pelvic floor and how you make sure that your pelvic floor is in good shape. I believe it's not on/off like thing that you either have a pelvic floor problem or you do not, but almost everyone could benefit from having better pelvic floor "fitness" in form of better EQ.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Well, you're using the hit or miss method. It's widely practiced on dem innerwebs! So you're not alone and I'm sure some peeps benefit.

But that's not my thing!

I crave understanding. I always want to understand; and understand deeply - what I'm doing; and also especially when I'm giving advice about anything. In my opinion, one could also easily lead a person astray with partial advice/knowledge. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing and all that. I've already given examples of how that could happen; which I could multiply for pages and pages.


As far as your thread - you must understand, I am in contact with - on a regular basis - a handful of the world's top TRT practitioners; your mind would be blown by some of the stuff that's presented at conferences; or, stuff I'm told personally. Did you know, for example, that for a half century we've been confusing Erythrocytosis & Polycythemia vera? This is huge news. Do you know that estradiol is also a neurotransmitter? The first is still bleeding edge; the second not so much. Anyway, really exciting research is going on.

I have also long belonged to an invitation-only private forum that discusses these and other matters related to male health & sports/sexual performance in very great depth. Many of them are MDs; some are chemists; some are pharma; grad students, etc.. It's a fairly august group of peeps. It's sort of a clearing house for gathering/analyzing research and discussing it; and there's, of course, a "manipulation via compounds" side too.

So, I've got my hands and reading eyes a wee bit full!

Anyway, I hope you help lots of dudes.

Peace!





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My view is simple vaunted experts repeatedly let me say that again REPEATEDLY fail at the most basic level.

So yours truly and people like me eg KM in her article put up the basics so that the layman can have some agency .
So when a person goes to a Gp a uro and then an endo and THEY ALL GET IT WRONG as happens REPEATEDLY.
They can have some agency . In the bulk of cases the mistakes these people make are simple and obvious .
In cases where they are not they are beyond me . In some cases guys have strange readings and i will suggest a better endo because i don't get into complex stuff that is not my role .

My role is to pick up obvious simple errors so the guy can either slap some sense into his docs; find a better doc or solve the problem himself. I make no attempt to present myself as an endo I suggest you don't either if you are not one.

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God damnit guys. OP posts very interresting information about measuring pelvic floor problems and you turn this to testosterone debate.

I didn't even know pelvic floor imbalance/problems can be measured with test. That's a real phenomenon for sure. The next question is how you recover from tight/weak pelvic floor and how you make sure that your pelvic floor is in good shape. I believe it's not on/off like thing that you either have a pelvic floor problem or you do not, but almost everyone could benefit from having better pelvic floor "fitness" in form of better EQ.

Yes I have repeatedly tried to get B to talk elsewhere to no avail but you are correct apologises to op . I can move these posts at op request.

I was aware that some pelvic floor test were available however they have become far more sophisticated.
There is a ton of info onsite on pelvic floor training for general health /stamina for mmo for ed and particularly for pre e . A lot is held in the pre e section the stickies for instance have a number of threads.
Again in complex cases i often advise a physio who works in this area . The particular advantage of this is they can often pick up underlying causes .