Different Categories?....story

[NYCDodge Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close NYCDodge]

I’ve tried looking around the website for information on this and I just can’t seem to find it. At least not enough.

I know that XXX hardcore, and soft core videos/images are detrimental to the brain and will deep fry your system. At the age of 21 I experienced my first ED dilemma, but it was also the same time when I experimented with watching hardcore xxx stuff. It was terrible and I weened off that stuff. I can’t remember the last time I masturbated to hardcore images.

However, I’ve never had any ED issues in regards to imagination, or even looking at sexy bikini photos/vids of women. Something from Sports Illustrated for example. Or a sexy picture of Rihanna or a model from a rap video. I would actually find myself harder than before when using imagination or looking at a simply nice image of a woman that was enticing...

A few months ago I tried No PMO and I realized that this has actually made my ED WORSE!!! I foolishly believed that semen retention would jump start my sex drive and make me better than ever before....I was wrong. My attempts at NoFap has made me worse and less connected to my body.

At a point few months ago I was having great sex with the women I was dealing with, but then sometime in May I abruptly lost all of my mojo....I couldn’t explain why...I wasn’t masturbating or watching images anymore, so it made zero sense as to why I was going limp. I then realized that since I was no longer edging or getting used to stimulating myself, it was as if my body wasn’t responding.

Well here’s the success. I started edging about 12 days ago for about 40-60 mins. I would either use my imagination or look at pics of models to stimulate my imagination. No lube, just dry. I’m uncut so I would pull foreskin back and stimulate the head, but I recently realized the most pleasurable part of my phallus is mid-shaft.

Few days ago I had sex with a girl I’ve been dealing with and she IMMEDIATELY mentioned how much harder I was! Soon as I stuck it in she started to cream and soon after she came multiple times. Not only was I harder I appeared much bigger than before...something she also mentioned. She even thought I may have used a pill.

Although she said she was satisfied, there were still moments when I went flaccid and had to get it back up again. To me this is a sign that I’m healing, but I still have more work to do.

Here’s the thing. Would you guys consider looking at pics of models/girls as porn? I know for a fact if I were to have looked at something hardcore my EQ would’ve been bad. But so far things are looking good with what I’m doing. It’s only been 12 days and I’ve learned that ejaculating would make my gains better not worse. Does porn fall into different categories? Can images of bikini models or women who are dressed sexy count as something as detrimental as hardcore porn? I can definitely get it up just by touch or imagination, but I simply enjoy looking at well dressed women with great figures..

[Physdoc Retired Moderator Member of the Month July 2019 Find all posts View Profile Close Physdoc]

You'll probably get differing opinions on this, but here's mine. Yes, I think porn falls into different categories - tame, mild, wild, kinky - whatever you want to label it. I don't see much difference whether the porn is imagined or seen in print/video - they are both visualizations fed to the brain. Personally, I don't see any issue with enjoying some porn IN MODERATION. Just like alot of things - too much of a good thing can be bad. Using those things as a crutch is also a bad thing.

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You'll probably get differing opinions on this, but here's mine. Yes, I think porn falls into different categories - tame, mild, wild, kinky - whatever you want to label it. I don't see much difference whether the porn is imagined or seen in print/video - they are both visualizations fed to the brain. Personally, I don't see any issue with enjoying some porn IN MODERATION. Just like alot of things - too much of a good thing can be bad. Using those things as a crutch is also a bad thing.

Thank you for your response. Bikini pics and having sex with girls have always been my sources of sexual stimulation since my teens...I’ll be 31 next month btw...

I never liked, or was into that hardcore stuff...gangbanging, lesbian sex, threesomes. All of that was weird to me and even turned me off so I could never get how my friends loved it so much. One friend I had was an incorrigible ladies man and he would still have 8 tabs of XXX porn out on his phone like it was nothing. Then he would have sex with a stripper later...I was never THAT extreme.

When it comes to bikini pics of video models or models in general, I believe those things are just there to help with imagination. Plus they have been around for hundreds of years so I don’t see how they can compare at all to the hardcore stuff (which is definitely harmful). I love either using my imagination or looking at a picture of Rihanna in a sexy dress or something of the likes..

I’m going to be having sex with a lady friend tonight so I’ll keep things updated.

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Thank you for your response. Bikini pics and having sex with girls have always been my sources of sexual stimulation since my teens...I’ll be 31 next month btw...

I’m going to be having sex with a lady friend tonight so I’ll keep things updated.

Some of the best "porn" I've visualized are replays of actual hot times I had with a woman. Or maybe visualizing some kind of play she and I can do in the future. Kind of like (but barely) an athlete visualizing the game! Heheh

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Some of the best "porn" I've visualized are replays of actual hot times I had with a woman. Or maybe visualizing some kind of play she and I can do in the future. Kind of like (but barely) an athlete visualizing the game! Heheh

UPDATE!!

Last night I had sex and I was VERY hard!! I was much harder than even before and she pretty much passed out by the time we were finished. She told me I “broke” her lol.....feels good. There was one moment where I lost it, but I quickly got it back up and finished the job.

And funny enough I had an hour and a half long edging session hours before she came over. I was simply using my imagination along with looking at pics/videos of bikini models. Nothing XXX or hardcore

So far it’s been 2 weeks since I’ve started my Edging session. The first 12 days I admit I was very rough with my penis. My head has been sore and dry so that may have contributed to lower EQ so I learned my lesson not to do that anymore. Instead I’m going to edge for 45-60 mins, dry, and focus on mid-shaft more as I recently discovered that is where my most pleasurable area is. Hopefully the soreness on my frenulum goes away this week. I also woke up with a morning erection. Despite edging for another 40 mins later that night AFTER I had sex with her. My main source is my imagination, touch, and looking at pics of bikini models

[mistergeorge Senior Member Member of the Month June 2021 Find all posts View Profile Close mistergeorge]

It sounds mostly to me like the key to your improvement has been going with your true nature, true turn ons, and allowing the juices to flow naturally rather than damming them up with images you find repulsive and/or the no-fap fad - which are both external culturally forced stuff that was messing with you.

How does that assessment sound to you?

To your questions about porn/not-porn:

There's another form of edging I've heard discussed here before. Maybe Big Al will chime in. It involves a focus on sensations rather than images of any type. So, no erotic memories, no photo or video, no imagination. Just focus on whole body sensations and sensuality.

I don't want to try add any more externally reinforced layers to your situation. This is just something maybe to experiment with since you have questions about where the line is between porn and not-porn. It would be difficult to draw a generalized rule.

Studies of erectile function involve both erections caused by erotic image or erotic ideation and also erections caused by physical stimulation. These two modes of erectile causation are thought to operate on different systems.

So really what I'm suggesting is to explore just getting caught up in the physicial stimulation mode - all the sensations of edging and allow it to expand throughout your body. I don't want to sound all new agey about this though. It's really just a practical experience. Like when you're with a woman you're feeling and sensing all kinds of other things than just what's in your imagination or limited to penile sensations.

You'll probably have erotic thoughts and imagination start to play out which is fine. So if you try this with edging it's probably best to just make it a goal to "emphasize" focus on sensations and sensuality throughout your body rather than try to totally bannish all erotic imagination during these sessions. You don't want to get into an internal civil war or impose new restrictions. And you probably don't need to spend a lot of time in that state of focus on the sensations.

The idea is to exercise another mode of erectile causation. I hope I'm making sense.

By the way, sleep-related erections (SRE), commonly called "morning wood" are thought to be a third category of erection which operates on an unrelated neurological pathway to the other two I mentioned above. SRE is the technical term. SREs have been abandoned by clinical diagnosticians in assessing erectile problems because they found no clear correlation between incidence of SRE with ED in sleep studies with men who had clinical ED. Something to keep in mind.

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It sounds mostly to me like the key to your improvement has been going with your true nature, true turn ons, and allowing the juices to flow naturally rather than damming them up with images you find repulsive and/or the no-fap fad - which are both external culturally forced stuff that was messing with you.

How does that assessment sound to you?

To your questions about porn/not-porn:

There's another form of edging I've heard discussed here before. Maybe Big Al will chime in. It involves a focus on sensations rather than images of any type. So, no erotic memories, no photo or video, no imagination. Just focus on whole body sensations and sensuality.

I don't want to try add any more externally reinforced layers to your situation. This is just something maybe to experiment with since you have questions about where the line is between porn and not-porn. It would be difficult to draw a generalized rule.

Studies of erectile function involve both erections caused by erotic image or erotic ideation and also erections caused by physical stimulation. These two modes of erectile causation are thought to operate on different systems.

So really what I'm suggesting is to explore just getting caught up in the physicial stimulation mode - all the sensations of edging and allow it to expand throughout your body. I don't want to sound all new agey about this though. It's really just a practical experience. Like when you're with a woman you're feeling and sensing all kinds of other things than just what's in your imagination or limited to penile sensations.

You'll probably have erotic thoughts and imagination start to play out which is fine. So if you try this with edging it's probably best to just make it a goal to "emphasize" focus on sensations and sensuality throughout your body rather than try to totally bannish all erotic imagination during these sessions. You don't want to get into an internal civil war or impose new restrictions. And you probably don't need to spend a lot of time in that state of focus on the sensations.

The idea is to exercise another mode of erectile causation. I hope I'm making sense.

By the way, sleep-related erections (SRE), commonly called "morning wood" are thought to be a third category of erection which operates on an unrelated neurological pathway to the other two I mentioned above. SRE is the technical term. SREs have been abandoned by clinical diagnosticians in assessing erectile problems because they found no clear correlation between incidence of SRE with ED in sleep studies with men who had clinical ED. Something to keep in mind.

Thanks for the insights...funny thing is I become MORE stimulated by simply imagining a woman who I used to deal with than looking at images on my phone.

In other words, closing my eyes and using imagination excites me more than looking at bikini pics. Last night I edged after a sex session and I wasn’t using my imagination. Just regular touch with my eyes closed and I was still super hard. I held a RK for 10 seconds and I came. I’m beginning to start adding RK’s into my routine