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    I just started taking a 5 mg polyamine supplement that is supposed to help ED in older men. The first couple of times I have taken it I got a temporary effect in the few hours following ingestion. The directions are to keep taking it every day until the amounts stored in the body are raised to more youthful levels. They say to take one pill per day, and if that doesn't help then take two per day. Later, when the amount stored in the body is raised, the dosage can be reduced. I decided to take two per day right away. Since I just started, it has yet to be seen if it will have lasting benefits as claimed. An interesting side note is that when I opened the bottle, my first reaction was "this smells like semen".

    I did some research on dietary sources of polyamines.

    Decrease in Polyamines with Aging and Their Ingestion from Food and Drink ? J Biochem
    Polyamine levels during aging decreased significantly in thymus, spleen, ovary, liver, stomach, lung, kidney, heart and muscle. Foods found to be rich in polyamines included green tea leaf.

    ScienceDirect - Food Chemistry : Dietary polyamines
    As polyamines are important in health and disease, it is of interest to obtain information on the food polyamine content. Most fruits and vegetables normally contained low levels of polyamines, although spermidine was high in broccoli and cauliflower, and putrescine in citrus fruits. Cooking did not significantly alter the polyamine concentration. Whereas some cheeses were generally high in polyamines, the content in other dairy products was low.

    The Chocolate Elcair Diet for Prostate Cancer - Natural Medicine News
    Group 3 foods, the foods with the highest polyamine content included:
    Calamari, oysters, muscles, crab, scallops, liver mousse, chitterlings, duck-liver pate´, pork liver pate´ garlic, chervil, tarragon, cabbage, broccoli, parsley, mushrooms, green peas, eggplant, tomatoes, bone marrow, oranges, hazelnuts, almonds, pistachios, peanuts, bananas, wheat, mustard, tinned gherkins, tomato paste, instant mashed potatoes, minced spinach, lentils, chickpeas, ratatouille, and sauerkraut.

    Biologically active dietary polyamines
    Dietary polyamines putrescine [PUT], spermidine [SPD] and spermine [SPM] have traditionally been classified within the group of biogenic amines. High PUT levels, even hundreds mg kg-1, were reported in citrus fruit and juices, ketchup, sauerkraut, fermented soybean products, ripened cheeses and fish sauce. Legumes, cauliflower, broccoli and cultivated mushrooms are foods with high SPD contents of tens mg kg-1. Beef, pork, meat products and legumes contain usually 20-40 mg kg-1 of SPM, the contents in chicken meat and particularly in porcine and chicken offal (liver, kidney, heart) are even higher.

  • #2
    Please keep us posted on progress. Very interesting.
    NoseyBailey:rolleyes:

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    • #3
      I don't seem to be getting the temporary effect anymore. That is what happened to me with arginine ethyl ester. It worked at first and then stopped.

      This product probably works by boosting testosterone. I make that assumption since it is giving me the same effects as another testosterone booster I have tried (muira puama). It enhances libido but doesn't boost EQ. It also makes my prostate swell, causing me to make more trips to the bathroom to empty my bladder.

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      • #4
        Good post John Dough, I am going to print off some of the foods.
        Vulcan
        7.25 (start July 2009)>>>>>>8.125"BPEL (current)
        5.25 (start July 2009)>>>>>>5.75"EG (current)

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        • #5
          I stopped taking this supplement due to the prostate swelling and full bladder issue. It also seemed to make my EQ worse. I suspect that my EQ would benefit from removing all prostate swelling. Unfortunately, the standard herbal treatments are based on plants containing beta-sitosterol, which is said to reduce erectile function.

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          • #6
            John as we age we men produce more estrogen. Your prostate is full of estrogen. In some countries they use DHT to treat swelling prostates. Stay away from soy products, Beer and lavender all have estrogenic compounds.


            For I will restore health unto thee and I will heal thee of thine wounds, saith the Lord Jeremiah 30:17

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            • #7
              Are we not great ugly bags of estrogen


              For I will restore health unto thee and I will heal thee of thine wounds, saith the Lord Jeremiah 30:17

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              • #8
                Tea tree is another product that may have this property at least in large amounts.

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