Devestated

[Stretch Armstrong Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Stretch Armstrong]

But one more thing that is drving me nuts, why does my penis hurt! Is it worn out from overuse, to rough of masturbation or what! This has me a bit worried.

Yeah it probably is. Aching is over use. Sharp pain is injury.

When I first started the 90 day routine, I had ED to an extent. It was on and off, even with the wife. About 30 days in i started getting morning wood again. About 45 days or halfway through, I would get random pop-ups. At 60 days, I was feeling normal again.

These are the things I think really helped:
1) A rice sock. Heat is AMAZING for blood flow.
2) The exercises. It was like a massage to the penis. More blood flow.
3) Gains made me more confident.
4) 3g of l-arganine daily
5) I gave up porn and daily masturbation. (I experienced desensitation big time.)
6) Kegels

There is no instant fix. It took a while to get into the hole you're in, it will take a while to get out. You do have to get it off your mind though.

[TryingToUnderstand Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close TryingToUnderstand]

Hey,

I am 29 and have similar problems to you that started around 25. I never had any issues with girls before that. I have low
testosterone as well (448) but my doctors won't give me any hormone therapy as they say it will do more harm than good.

My girlfriend and I broke up at the beginning of the year and I've been trying different things to fix my problem.
I am extremely fit, no drugs, don't smoke, drink only on weekends or less. I take several supplements (zma, green tea,
ginko, garlic, fish oil). I also do kegels and edging. Doing all of this, I can obtain rock hard erections very easily but still
have trouble maintaining for more than 20 seconds without constant stimulation. I rarely wake up with morning wood
but usually have nocturnal erections. I have developed a habit of waking up several times a night to check...
Strangely enough, when I do wake up with morning wood, I can maintain it for 5-10 minutes without touching it while
I'm still half asleep, so I guess my equipment works.

I also have a prescription for daily cialis but only use it rarely. With the cialis, I can get erections much easier and they
last for 1-2 minutes without stimulation so it's enough to have sex.

Lastly I wanted to say that I know what you are going through. When I first read about venous leak, I was freaking out
and having the same suicidal thoughts and felt like I was never going to have a wife/family etc. What helped me was
to realize that erection problems are normal from time to time. If you check out the polls section of the forum,
the majority of guys cannot maintain it for more than a minute without stimulation. Try the exercises, supplements,
and maintaining a healthy outlook on life. You will most likely see an improvement in erection quality...

[WhiteCloudz Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close WhiteCloudz]

you are a very brave person who is dealing with some difficult stuff at the moment.....but dont ever think that you wont come out the other side laughing.....the guys here are incredibly supportive and have all the knowledge that you seek right now....in my opinion doctors can be great but very few of them understand PE and its benefits.....you should give up the obvious things like any tablets you take and especially PORN.....it might be hard at first but porn will end up causing problems in the end....sometimes kegel can be the magic word....start your routine with just kegels....learn how to do them properly and most importantly try to change your mind about how you view your situation.....because the way you think is so important.....and stay here because the information on this site and on all the threads is absolutely brilliant....

[peterdur Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close peterdur]

I'll write more again later! But, quick question if anyone has a chance to answer it, I want to buy some L-arginine today. Is that safe with daily cialis. I have found some things on the internet that say yes, others no.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

500 mg but take a few hours before or after the cialis. But if you're taking cialis, meaning your plumbing works, why not just stick to the supplements, do pe, and work your way out of your problem?

[peterdur Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close peterdur]

Thanks for all the new input, I started the exercises last night. I admit I am a bit afraid to try jelqing though! I did a warm up with a hot towel and 50 kegels, they were pretty though and I a massage to increase blood flow. I also went out and bought the L-arginine supplement. I bought the powder, 1/4 teaspoon is 500 mg. But like I stated in a previous post I am a bit concerned about the interaction with cialis. Cusp82 mentioned "that if my plumbing works, why not just stick to supplements," I don't really feel like my plumbing works though...or well atleast. I woke up in the middle of the night with a pretty hard erection, but I'm not sure how much of an achievement that is, since I take 5mg of cialis daily.

Whitecloudz thanks for your input, the porn is defnitely gone and the kegels have been started. I even download a parental porn blocking software program. Yes, I know the password to turn the program off, but atleast having to do all that will give me some extra time and a reminder, to pratice self control. I'm trying to change my mind, but well thats really tough.

Stretch Armstrong, you think my aching is overuse. It makes senses, but I don't really feel like I have over used myself but "normal standards." Pretty much just daily masturbation.
You mentioned these things:
1) A rice sock. Heat is AMAZING for blood flow.
2) The exercises. It was like a massage to the penis. More blood flow.
3) Gains made me more confident.
4) 3g of l-arganine daily
5) I gave up porn and daily masturbation. (I experienced desensitation big time.)
6) Kegels
I'm happy to say I have implemented all of them now.

Tryingtounderstand- We seem to have an unbelievable amount in common. Did you/do you have a varicocele by chance? I know that the majority of guys have erection problems from time to time. But what frustrates me so far is well, I have had these problems for three years. Thats far more than time to time. Also you said that the majority of guys can't sustain an erection without stimulation for more than minute, for me....even if I can get a decent erection, without stimulation- in five seconds its over. Thats what has me continual thinking venous leak.

[TryingToUnderstand Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close TryingToUnderstand]

peterdur,

I don't think I have varicocele. I never heard of it until you said it.
When you say your erection goes away after 5 seconds, do you mean that it goes from 100% to completely flaccid or just begins to go away?
Mine starts to go away after 5 seconds too but it takes around 20 seconds to go completely flaccid. Reading other threads (see the "longer lasting" thread), apparently, you can
get it to last 5 minutes or more by doing a reverse kegel. I was not able to accomplish this but maybe I'm doing it wrong. You could give it a shot.

Even with cialis, it only lasts about 1 minute before getting completely flaccid. Do you have the same experience with cialis?
I often wonder if cialis is supposed to keep an erection without stimulation for much longer.

[peterdur Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close peterdur]

Trying, Well thanks a great thing you have never heard of a varicocele it has bascially ruined my testosterone levels. My erection starts going away probably within 3 seconds or so and like you probably takes 20 seconds to be completely gone. For sex, its nearly impossible to keep it up without constant stimulation. Our experiences are pretty similiar with cialis too. Maybe 10 seconds before starting to go soft and 45 seconds completely gone.

My prolactin has always been pretty high and prolactin is a big killer of sex drive and testosterone production.

To everyone out there, I want to try B6 to lower my prolactin. Any ideas on the dose and how long it would take to show results?

[peterdur Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close peterdur]

Just got a message from my doctor, I already tried low dose wellbutrin...he wants me to try another anti-anxiety medicine. He thinks the anxiety from my ed is causing it. I think bullshit. Does he sound reasonable? I think its the chick or the egg problem. I think my ed caused my stress, he thinks my stress caused ed.

[Going411x7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Going411x7]

It makes sense that it is both.

[peterdur Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close peterdur]

I wanted to give everyone an update. Its been two weeks since I gave up porn, started kegels/other exercises. Its only been two weeks so I have not experienced dramatic results, however I think my brain has started to become a bit more sensitive and i "might" be able to see some kegel pc muscle results. Before I needed porn really to get aroused on my own, but earlier today I saw a picture of a really good looking woman in a bikini, and that had a similar effect on me that porn had two weeks ago. Hopefully that is progress. I'm not very patient, and I think I will be starting a higher dose of wellbutrin to take advantage of its legendary sexual side effects. I will be taking 300 mg a day. Has anyone else every tried wellbutrin to jump start things?
Anyways, I'll keep giving updates if anything changes, and thankss to all the guys that have recently pm'd me. It is truely incredible that complete strangers seem to honestly care.

Thanks
J