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  • #16
    Stop the beta blockers. I imagine you need to keep your blood pressure up....Am I right....What is your blood presure at its lowest and blood pressure at its highest?

    Don't drink green tea or black tea, they lower blood pressure. Do not take arginine it lowers blood pressure.

    For tachycardia you need ginkgo to slow down the heart beat. Try 120 mg see how that goes. To raise your blood pressure you need Chinese Gensing 100 to 300 mg per day. Also for helping you sustain a higher blood pressure you can take Gaurana. And guess what All three can give you rock hard erections.
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    Last edited by kingpole; 03-02-2009, 11:58 PM.


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    • #17
      Wow guys... all these suggestions! I have stopped my beta blockers as of last Thursday.

      Going411by7:
      Thanks for the suggestions dude. Should I keep my lighter jelqing routine now since I'm still a newbie? I've only been religiously PE'ing for a month. I'm only jelqing 8 mins at a crack right now. What are your suggestions for edging afterwords? Things with the gf (if I can even call her my gf) are going slow... We only met up once for coffee since our lives are so busy with school and work. We live 30 minutes apart too which sucks for planning and such. Oh well, she emails me daily . Hopefully we can start seeing each other more to see if this will actually turn into something.

      kingpole:
      Yeah, my blood pressure falls slightly throughout the day which causes me to feel dizzy and/or sick. The beta blockers kept it up and I had to take another med to keep it lower since my blood pressure is really at a normal level. It doesn't make any sense to me and I disagree with the decesion to have been prescribed the meds in the first place since every time I have a checkup my readings are normal! No green or black tea? Okay... I thought those were okay and I was reading good things about them. Interesting. So Ginko - 120mg, Chinese Gensing - 200mg, and Gurana. Should I take this all in the AM? Also, any suggestions on where to purchase? I usually use GNC for all my stuff.

      Thanks guys.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by flyboy351 View Post
        Wow guys... all these suggestions! I have stopped my beta blockers as of last Thursday.

        Going411by7:
        Thanks for the suggestions dude. Should I keep my lighter jelqing routine now since I'm still a newbie? I've only been religiously PE'ing for a month. I'm only jelqing 8 mins at a crack right now. What are your suggestions for edging afterwords? Things with the gf (if I can even call her my gf) are going slow... We only met up once for coffee since our lives are so busy with school and work. We live 30 minutes apart too which sucks for planning and such. Oh well, she emails me daily . Hopefully we can start seeing each other more to see if this will actually turn into something.

        kingpole:
        Yeah, my blood pressure falls slightly throughout the day which causes me to feel dizzy and/or sick. The beta blockers kept it up and I had to take another med to keep it lower since my blood pressure is really at a normal level. It doesn't make any sense to me and I disagree with the decesion to have been prescribed the meds in the first place since every time I have a checkup my readings are normal! No green or black tea? Okay... I thought those were okay and I was reading good things about them. Interesting. So Ginko - 120mg, Chinese Gensing - 200mg, and Gurana. Should I take this all in the AM? Also, any suggestions on where to purchase? I usually use GNC for all my stuff.

        Thanks guys.
        Yeah, take the Ginkgo in the morning and when your blood pressure declines in the afternoon take the guarana and Gensing. You may also consder drinking red bull and rock stars they to can raise your blood pressure.

        Im thinking, this is not a DX by any means but a logical guess. That your Vagus nerve is not sending the correct message from you brain to your heart. Ginkgo is good forhealing damaged nerves. Also you may want to add in a little yohimbe to now and then.


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        • #19
          Well, the problem with this medical thing is that my brain doesn't recognize changes in body posture. When it does, it will send a signal which rushes blood to certain places. The beta blockers were used to control this. Also, in situations with a lot of things happening, I get very dizzy and somewhat disoriented. It's all related to the medical thing.
          I live for that exhilarating moment when I'm in an airplane rushing down the runway being pushed back into my seat. The aircraft pulls up and I am finally flying again. I welcome the new yet always familiar view of our world.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by flyboy351 View Post
            Well, the problem with this medical thing is that my brain doesn't recognize changes in body posture. When it does, it will send a signal which rushes blood to certain places. The beta blockers were used to control this. Also, in situations with a lot of things happening, I get very dizzy and somewhat disoriented. It's all related to the medical thing.
            Do th beta blockers help with this?

            Im going to find a natural treatment for your condition, hopefully i can find something online.


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            • #21
              I didn't notice a difference.

              As far as natural treatment, there are certain things I can do. I have to wear ankle weights all day long. It sucks and I never wear them in the summer since I look dorky in shorts. I have to drink LOTS of water and increase my salt intake. I have to split all my meals up into 6 or 7 smaller meals. I haven't figured out or noticed a difference as far as what I eat during these meals. However, I try to only have 3 servings of whole grains per day. I do not have sugar, unless it's natural such as honey or fruit. I'm not supposed to drink alcohol, but I occasionally have MGD 64 since it's light in everything or I'll have a little wine. Other than that, I can't drink since my blood vessels would contract causing decreased blood flow. I'm always looking for natural ways to help and I'll never stop looking .

              Edit:
              Oh, and I should mention this. There is a POTS group on facebook that I joined. I didn't like asking this question, but I asked one of the guys there if he has erection problems with POTS. He does not. Everyone is different though... So I don't know if for sure my medical condition causes it.

              Thanks!
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              Last edited by flyboy351; 03-03-2009, 09:24 PM. Reason: FB insert
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              • #22
                Don 't take any kind of gensing for this, i was wrong on that one. Avoid caffeine. Im going to look up some natural beta blockers that perhaps don't cause ED.

                Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome, Patient's Report
                Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome (POTS) is usually clinically defined as a heart ..... Try to keep your muscles alive, as they produce the natural ...
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                Last edited by kingpole; 03-03-2009, 11:06 PM.


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                • #23
                  POTS with its symptoms simular to chronic fatigue may benifit from ginkgo biloba, licorice, sodium, and gensing. It is however a shot in the dark. licroice seems to hold the most promise for this disease. You can buy licorice at any health food store. Im talking about the herb not the candy.


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                  • #24
                    Hi Kingpole.

                    Thanks a lot for the information. You didn't have to spend time researching so I'm grateful you did! I've been to that site thousands of times. So much information...

                    Okay... I know I already need to avoid garlic (unfortunately)... Here's a paragraph about ginseng...
                    "Patients with POTS and/or neurally mediated hypotension should avoid garlic and nitrates in food, which lower blood pressure. Most patients also need to give up alcohol, coffee, tea, and adrenaline stimulating herbs like ginseng. Try to avoid eating heavy meals as overloading the stomach decreases orthostatic tolerance by drawing blood to the digestive tract and away from main arteries which feed the brain."
                    I should avoid it.

                    I read up on Licorice a bit... Licorice. Sounds interesting. Also, I've specifically told my doctor that I refuse to take salt tablets. I don't want to create problems in my stomach so I just increase salt on all of my foods. Too offset that, I drink TONS of water.

                    Thanks again...

                    Aaron
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                    • #25
                      I also found this... GNC Herbal Plus Standardized® DGL Licorice - GNC HERBAL PLUS STANDARDIZED - GNC.
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                      • #26
                        I was talking to Dr lin, he sent me an e-mail. He said beta blockers are not good for this problem that you actually should be taking arginnine. Probably Alpha Arginine ketoglutaragte. To increase the nox to your brain. Oxygen use seems to be a limiting factor in the brain of someone who has pots. Also Gensing increases 02 sufficientcy. To be honest i think the reason why they don't want you to try natural supplements like gensing is because it may block or react to the beta blocker. But if you want erections and wangt to walk around w/o passing out then maybe you might want to try it. However like i said it is a shot in the dark.

                        Here is the e-mail and the product he sells for various conditions:

                        Yes, beta blockers causes the arterial constriction and slow down the cardiovacular
                        output for deficiency of blood flow in the brain, joints, muscles, and testicles/penis.

                        Our products ViaPal-hGH-N (3-017) can help,
                        The Lin Institute: ViaPal-hGH-N (= ViaGrowth-IV/MoodMax/ArgiNOx)
                        He can gradually withdraw the beta blockers with ViaPal-hGh-N and Pinealtonin (2-002)
                        The Lin Institute:
                        Also he should walk 1 hour every day for force the blood flow to his toes and fingers
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                        Last edited by kingpole; 03-04-2009, 05:15 PM.


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