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  • #16
    Urologist are a joke. Don't waste your time. As far as the suspected nerve damage. These are all the best sups to take for that...

    Alpha-Lipoic Acid
    B Vitimans
    Methyl B12
    Acetyl-L-Carnitine
    lecithin
    Omega 3/Flax Oil
    Zinc
    Coenzyme Q10
    Evening Primrose Oil (GLA/Omega 6)
    Benfotiamine B1
    Amino Acids
    Inosine
    Calcium/Magnesium
    Silica
    Wife does kegels - I do PE. Life is good.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by not2big View Post
      Do your best, but if you must partake, stick to white medium which has the least carbs (10.6) and alcohol (10%) per glass of the popular wines. You might want to try sparkling grape juice which only has traces of each.
      not too much into the white wines, but used to sip a little of a previous girlfriend's her style of wine. I actually thought the whites had more sugar, kinda taste like they do.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by thenewdude View Post
        Get your blood sugar in normal range (90 - 120) if possible and read the sugar and carbs on each box of food you buy. The more normal you keep your sugar the better you will be in most way for your body. You can't eat like a normal dude just like my wife can't either but she has managed to keep within normal (even on insulin). The sugar that you don't have the insulin produced by the pancreas to break down goes into your blood which will thicken. Please, take care of this not just for a better erection but because I WANT TO SEE YOU LIVE.
        I understand having hyperglycemia is more fatal than just hypoglycemia because you have to deal with low and high but you can do it. Do what is right for your body.
        Hey thanks, I want to see myself live too! Im close to getting to those numbers...Glad your wife is managing to keep hers under control.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by wifedominator View Post
          Urologist are a joke. Don't waste your time. As far as the suspected nerve damage. These are all the best sups to take for that...

          Alpha-Lipoic Acid
          B Vitimans
          Methyl B12
          Acetyl-L-Carnitine
          lecithin
          Omega 3/Flax Oil
          Zinc
          Coenzyme Q10
          Evening Primrose Oil (GLA/Omega 6)
          Benfotiamine B1
          Amino Acids
          Inosine
          Calcium/Magnesium
          Silica
          I keep hearing they are not that effective, and seems like people on this forum and other websites are more open to other ideas that can help than going to an urologist. Any thoughts on this?
          I have not heard of half of these supps, so I will look into them and thanks so much. Oh yea, what about Butchers Broom root, anyone ever use this supp?
          softheadned
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          Last edited by softheadned; 08-17-2011, 12:10 AM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by softheadned View Post
            not too much into the white wines, but used to sip a little of a previous girlfriend's her style of wine. I actually thought the whites had more sugar, kinda taste like they do.
            For a diabetic, carbohydrates are more important to consider than sugar.
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            01/14 NBPEL - 5.35, MSEG - 5.25
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            • #21
              Originally posted by not2big View Post
              For a diabetic, carbohydrates are more important to consider than sugar.
              why is that?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by softheadned View Post
                why is that?
                Carbohydrates are what actually convert into blood glucose. For example, there are more carbohydrates in sugar free ice cream than regular ice cream. Check out diabetesforums.com and you will find a wealth of information on proper eating habits as well as other good information. If you join, you can ask any question you want and probably get 3 to 4 responses within 30 minutes.
                not2big
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                Last edited by not2big; 08-17-2011, 04:22 PM.
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                12/'09 (start) NBP EL - 4.5, EG - 4.4
                12/11 NBPEL - 5.1, MSEG - 5
                01/13 NBPEL - 5.35, MSEG - 5.1
                01/14 NBPEL - 5.35, MSEG - 5.25
                01/16 NBPEL - 5.4, MSEG - 5.5
                Fat Pad = 1+/-

                Real cars have two seats. Everything else is a bus.

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                • #23
                  My opinion, most everything you consume, is converted to blood sugar/glucose.
                  Sugar converts quicker than carbs, carbs convert over a longer period of time, keeping blood glucose elevated for longer periods (not desirable).
                  If you google glycemic index, and do some research, you can see what foods are "diabetic friendly" as they don't spike your blood glucose.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by not2big View Post
                    Carbohydrates are what actually convert into blood glucose. For example, there are more carbohydrates in sugar free ice cream than regular ice cream. Check out diabetesforums.com and you will find a wealth of information on proper eating habits as well as other good information. If you join, you can ask any question you want and probably get 3 to 4 responses within 30 minutes.
                    I have learned alot since I became a dbc, but did not kow about the icecream thing and how alcohol stores in your liver for while before the sugars get released to the bloodstream etc. I will check out that site, thanks!

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Dangler View Post
                      My opinion, most everything you consume, is converted to blood sugar/glucose.
                      Sugar converts quicker than carbs, carbs convert over a longer period of time, keeping blood glucose elevated for longer periods (not desirable).
                      If you google glycemic index, and do some research, you can see what foods are "diabetic friendly" as they don't spike your blood glucose.
                      once again, more great info. thanks. I am cutting down significantly on my soups that have potatoes and other white carbs, seems to be what I eat most, and those french fries somehow always make it on my plate sometime during the week. I will check out glycemic on the net. Last night I checked my sugar levels and for the first time since I have been taking Metformin and Glipizide for the last 2 months, my sugar levels were at 131! Lately averaging at 240- 180. It could be from not drinking wine the last few days and cutting out the white carbs, and some exercise and the Five G's. On top of that, my doctor today called and said my viagra came in so I will give a try, heck why not. It's temporary, but might help here and there. I am just wondering if I would be able to take the viagra on nites I need it (tabs are 100mg, break them up in half?) along with the Five G's I have been doing, or will it be over kill?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by softheadned View Post
                        once again, more great info. thanks. I am cutting down significantly on my soups that have potatoes and other white carbs, seems to be what I eat most, and those french fries somehow always make it on my plate sometime during the week. I will check out glycemic on the net. Last night I checked my sugar levels and for the first time since I have been taking Metformin and Glipizide for the last 2 months, my sugar levels were at 131! Lately averaging at 240- 180. It could be from not drinking wine the last few days and cutting out the white carbs, and some exercise and the Five G's. On top of that, my doctor today called and said my viagra came in so I will give a try, heck why not. It's temporary, but might help here and there. I am just wondering if I would be able to take the viagra on nites I need it (tabs are 100mg, break them up in half?) along with the Five G's I have been doing, or will it be over kill?
                        Can Anyone answer this? "I am just wondering if I would be able to take the viagra on nites I need it (tabs are 100mg, break them up in half?) along with the Five G's I have been doing, or will it be over kill?" King Pole, have any thoughts on this?

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                        • #27
                          The book 'Eat youself slim' by Montignac is very good in relation to Glycaemic Index, load & actual recipes.
                          Vulcan
                          7.25 (start July 2009)>>>>>>8.125"BPEL (current)
                          5.25 (start July 2009)>>>>>>5.75"EG (current)

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by softheadned View Post
                            Can Anyone answer this? "I am just wondering if I would be able to take the viagra on nites I need it (tabs are 100mg, break them up in half?) along with the Five G's I have been doing, or will it be over kill?" King Pole, have any thoughts on this?
                            When I first started on Viagra, I was prescribed a 25 mg dose and it worked just fine. I would recommend cutting the 100 mg pills into 4 quarters and start at the 25 dose level. The 5 Gs will take several weeks before you get the full effect, but I see no conflict. I take them and sometimes use a full 100 mg pill without a problem. You should get a pill cutter at your local drug store because Viagra is very hard and difficult to cut without it.

                            Also the prescription is not cheap - in the area of $12 per pill without insurance. Even with insurance, you are usually limited to the number of pills covered - I am allowed 18 for 75 days. Accordingly, try to get by with the lowest dosage that works.
                            Valued Member of 12+ years at the PEGym
                            12/'09 (start) NBP EL - 4.5, EG - 4.4
                            12/11 NBPEL - 5.1, MSEG - 5
                            01/13 NBPEL - 5.35, MSEG - 5.1
                            01/14 NBPEL - 5.35, MSEG - 5.25
                            01/16 NBPEL - 5.4, MSEG - 5.5
                            Fat Pad = 1+/-

                            Real cars have two seats. Everything else is a bus.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by softheadned View Post
                              hey guys, I need some feed back here. I think I took it too far and need to know if I made things worse. First, I am a diabetic. I became one 8 years ago. My erections were just fine before then. Then when I got diabetes, it all went to shit. When I got diagnosed 8 years ago I noticed my erections were getting softer by the month, then my doctor during the time gave me some viagra and cialis. Both worked good, then after one year, I lost my medical. That was in 2003. Since then, I have not had any medical insurance and went off the grid, and I cannot afford to pay for meds without it. Since then I have lived with very high sugar levels, usually around 400 (3 times higher than a normal person). I do not exercise as much, I probably should, and I drink 2-3 glasses of wine almost every nite, sure does not help my issue but it is what I was doing and must bring that into the factor. I also noticed that from the 3rd year and even till today being a diabetic, I cannot cum, and just a little clear stuff comes out. I hear this is called retro ejaculation. I hear from diabetes not being taken care of that retro can be caused from nerve damage. So after all this time without medical, a friend two months ago helped me get into a program to get medical and meds. So now I am back on Metformin and Glipizide. I also had a blood test done when I got medical and my doctor says my liver, kidneys are healthy and I have no nerve damage, but I am not so sure the nerve damage results are accurate, as i suffered from neuropathy for a while and it was bad and painful. However with my new medical and meds I got stoked hoping this will help my erections giving me better circulation to my penis from the meds. And yes some progress was made because when I started the meds 2 months ago, I noticed my erections were getting a tad better, and even had some morning wood, not solid, but some blood pumping in there. Some progress was being made, and my sugar levels are now averaging around 180 instead of 400. Getting more excited, I started researching more ways to enhance blood flow as well, and started taking L-Arginine (1500 to 3000mg a day), and Niacin (1000mg a day). On top of that, I started to do PE. And I also started to do the Jelqing as I heard Jelqing helps the penis grow by expanding blood vessels to hold more blood. Well, here's where I think I went wrong but I am completely not sure so this is what I did and maybe you guys can tell me if yes or no. It's even gonna sounds ridiculous. Ok, here it is: so instead of just jelqing, I started winding it up like a paper plane propeller with a rubber band, twisting it as much as it can be twisted, then holding this position by the head of my cock and pulling on it to stretch it out, thinking it might enhance the stretching of the vessels... I would pull on my cock in this position pretty freakin hard holding it for about 30 seconds for about 8-10 times a session and even rotating it in counter clockwise circular motions and opposite. I did this a couple times a day..... Since doing this twisting and pulling, my progress the last 2 months has come to a halt. Now I am getting no more erections, and no more morning wood as I have been getting since I started the meds for my diabetes. Now I have been massaging my penis lately hoping it might help. So, I want to ask you guys, do you think I must have done some internal scare tissue, blood vessel, or nerve damage to my penis that is preventing blood flow from my propeler style pulling? Did I damage something? Here is one thing, if I do masurbate, I can get a little erection going on, not much, maybe enough to penetrate in sex, but barley. So now I have been trying everything else I can do see what else can help. I am now also taking zinc 100 mg a day and Prograde K20 (to help with possible deficiency of testosterone since I heard my diabetes can cause I major depletion of it) , B1 and B6 (for nerve health) and I am thinking of getting some viagra and doing 25 mg a day for 4-6 months as I heard some people with diabetes had some success restoring there erections from this method. I also masturbate 2 twice a day and have been doing that for years all though it is soft, and I am thinking I should stop that for a while too. Cialis at 20 mg does not work for me. And my doctor has some viagra coming to me here in a week or two at 100 mgs a pill. Not sure if this will help for temporary usage but I am more looking into riding myself of Ed if possible. I am also trying to get an appointment with an urologist if my coverage can help some. Thanks for listening and if anyone has any advise, or some constructive criticism that would be nice, as I am having a hard time right now as it is. I would appreciate your supporting thoughts.
                              I am a diabetic to, i saf to hear you lost medical covervage. But their is hope for you. Are you type 1 diabetic or type two?

                              Are you overweight, if so by how much?

                              If you can not afford your medication you can take a few in expensive herbs thar will knock your A1C down, way down, really down. I should know this is the way i went dibetic meds and insulin was not working all that well. So this is what you do?

                              Cinnamon, you can get a bottle of this cheap at walmart or CVs for around a dollor. Put it in your coffee, add it to the fresh grounds in your coffee.

                              Coffee and green tea will lower blood sugar over time. Take green tea capsules 315mg standardised 2-3 per day. Walmart chages around 10-15$ for green tea capsules.
                              Ginkgo biloba, reduces insulin dependance and will possibly save you from going blind due to diabetes.
                              Apple cider venegar add this to salads and sliced bread will reduce blood sugar after meals.
                              Genseng, anykind will lower blood sugar.
                              Chromium picolinate between 400-1000 mcg per day will lower your blood sugar.
                              Asperin will lower blood sugar, you should be takiing 80mg per day for heart protection.

                              for erections you need to look into the five G's Some of the ingrediants in the five G's will also help lower blood sugar.

                              If you are overweight you have to lose weight.

                              Here is your diet if blood sugar remains over 400.

                              100-200 grams per day of high bilogical protien, That would be chicken, beef, pork, fish, nuts, seeds, milk products
                              Only 120mg of starch per day and these are the statch groups top choose from. whole grain bread, whole grain pasta, brown rice, low sugar cereals. you want about 30 grams per meal over the course of the day.

                              No fruit for now

                              Vegetbles, you can have any vegetble you like, remember vegtable sincrease testosterone levels, when these go up blood sugar goes down. have 6-10 servings of vegetbles per day. this includes carrots

                              Starches you need to omit from your diet. Potatoes, White sugar, white bread, White rice,cakes cookies and candy. Diet soda as well as regualr soda. No juice thats a concentrated sugar.

                              I have done this and my A1C has remained between 3-5.5 over the course of 6 years.


                              For I will restore health unto thee and I will heal thee of thine wounds, saith the Lord Jeremiah 30:17

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by kingpole View Post
                                I am a diabetic to, i saf to hear you lost medical covervage. But their is hope for you. Are you type 1 diabetic or type two?

                                Are you overweight, if so by how much?

                                If you can not afford your medication you can take a few in expensive herbs thar will knock your A1C down, way down, really down. I should know this is the way i went dibetic meds and insulin was not working all that well. So this is what you do?

                                Cinnamon, you can get a bottle of this cheap at walmart or CVs for around a dollor. Put it in your coffee, add it to the fresh grounds in your coffee.

                                Coffee and green tea will lower blood sugar over time. Take green tea capsules 315mg standardised 2-3 per day. Walmart chages around 10-15$ for green tea capsules.
                                Ginkgo biloba, reduces insulin dependance and will possibly save you from going blind due to diabetes.
                                Apple cider venegar add this to salads and sliced bread will reduce blood sugar after meals.
                                Genseng, anykind will lower blood sugar.
                                Chromium picolinate between 400-1000 mcg per day will lower your blood sugar.
                                Asperin will lower blood sugar, you should be takiing 80mg per day for heart protection.

                                for erections you need to look into the five G's Some of the ingrediants in the five G's will also help lower blood sugar.

                                If you are overweight you have to lose weight.

                                Here is your diet if blood sugar remains over 400.

                                100-200 grams per day of high bilogical protien, That would be chicken, beef, pork, fish, nuts, seeds, milk products
                                Only 120mg of starch per day and these are the statch groups top choose from. whole grain bread, whole grain pasta, brown rice, low sugar cereals. you want about 30 grams per meal over the course of the day.

                                No fruit for now

                                Vegetbles, you can have any vegetble you like, remember vegtable sincrease testosterone levels, when these go up blood sugar goes down. have 6-10 servings of vegetbles per day. this includes carrots

                                Starches you need to omit from your diet. Potatoes, White sugar, white bread, White rice,cakes cookies and candy. Diet soda as well as regualr soda. No juice thats a concentrated sugar.

                                I have done this and my A1C has remained between 3-5.5 over the course of 6 years.
                                KingPole, thank for your detailed reply here. I will definitely take your diet advise... To answer your questions: I did not have medical for the last 6 or so years, but I do have it now agian, and I have had it for the last 2 months. When I was first diagnosed 7 -8 years ago, my doctor at the time could not figure out if I was type 1 or 2. I did insulin for 6 months then tappered off of it. Since then I have had no treatment till now. Obviously I must be a type 2, but strange thing is, I never gained weight and was loosing weight, infact I am still a little under weight. I am 6 ft, and weight about 165 on average. I could use another 5 or so pounds as everone thinks I am too thin still and I agree. Before I was a diabetic, I wieghed average around 175 and seems to look my best and healthy. Any how, this year around March timeframe, I started to take Cinnamon capsules, around 3000 mgs a day, and I have to say, that I could actually feel the difference helping, but not enough to bring my sugar down to safe levels. Now since I am taking my Metformin and Glipizide, it has been helping. But the last 5 days, I have also been doing your 5 G's. I have noticed this week my sugar levels have dropped even more and averaging 170, and sometimes lower. I am taking 2 days off the 5 G's as you mentioned in your 5 G's post. A few days ago I woke up with soft wood, which I am sure was from the 5 G's as an addition to my meds. However, since then, I have not had any morning wood and wondering why it would happen only that once a few days ago. Would you happen to know why? Also, as my sugar levels are getting lower lately (last 2 months) by having my meds, I am starting to feel burning and aching in my feet and lower legs and my hands are going numb here and there for a short while. It reminds me of the time I first got diabetes and when I started insulin my sugar levels dropped significantly, and I went through 2 months of the worst pain in my life, like the sugar in my body was draining off of my nerves from being caked on for so long, or something like that. I remember the pain being so bad, that I couldnt sleep and I spent alot of time in the bath tub to numb out my body so I did not feel that pain. My doctor at the time said it was neuropathy and gave me some pills that did nothing. Anyhow, lately, I am experiencing a lighter version of it. Really wondering if I stick to my meds, your diet advise, the 5 G's, if i am going to see some consistent results for improving my Ed in the long run. I did a blood test about a month ago and my doctor said my kidneys, liver and nerves were all healty. But she also said the test are not always accurate. So she said to give it some time with the ed and said I should see some improvements if I keep my sugars under control. Anyhow, I hope your diet advise and the 5 G's and excercise will do the trick! Any other thoughts on all this?
                                softheadned
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                                Last edited by softheadned; 08-22-2011, 07:50 AM.

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