Testosterone therapy

[ajmarket Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ajmarket]

The fact is.. if u have low hrt you should be educated enuff to use the medications wisely...

You obviously shouldn't be making contact with children or swimming in public pools when you've just put this stuff on.

Lazy 8....

So with health insurance u only need 2 pay 45monthly?
Do you get injections or the androgel? What were your test levels?

[Lazy 8 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Lazy 8]

The fact is.. if u have low hrt you should be educated enuff to use the medications wisely...

You obviously shouldn't be making contact with children or swimming in public pools when you've just put this stuff on.

Lazy 8....

So with health insurance u only need 2 pay 45monthly?
Do you get injections or the androgel? What were your test levels?

Correct on the payment part. I use Testim 1% which is a gel like Androgel but which has better absorption. I don't recall my test numbers, but they were around 300, maybe a little below.

[ajmarket Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ajmarket]

Crazy.. I was 19 and test 230, the refused to treat me.

[Lazy 8 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Lazy 8]

Crazy.. I was 19 and test 230, the refused to treat me.

You need to find a more empathetic doctor! Mine (a woman) is great.

[ajmarket Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ajmarket]

Crazy.. I was 19 and test 230, the refused to treat me.

[ajmarket Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ajmarket]

Sorry for the double post.

My levels fluctuated, sometimes low.. and the highest was 500.

Idk, I guess I just find natural remedies until the day something is done about it.

[Lazy 8 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Lazy 8]

Sorry for the double post.

My levels fluctuated, sometimes low.. and the highest was 500.

Idk, I guess I just find natural remedies until the day something is done about it.

Don't be passive about it. Ask your doctor why s/he doesn't think your condition merits HRT. Read up enough so you can have a discussion where you have information to contribute to the conversation. Don't be afraid to push your case the him/her. It's your life, after all.

[epsilon Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close epsilon]

I thought I would start a thread specifically dedicated to people who have had testosterone therapy or think they need it.

13 ways to naturally Increase your testosterone 1. Get more Zinc
Zinc is very important for the production of natural testosterone because Zinc prevents testosterone from being converted into estrogen (the female hormone) by making the enzyme aromatase not work (look at #3 below) plus...
Zinc itself turns estrogen into testosterone and Zinc helps produce healthier sperm and higher sperm counts so actually... Low levels of zinc can cause low testosterone levels.
Foods high in Zinc include oysters (a natural aphrodisiac), beef, liver, crab, seafood, poultry, nuts and seeds, salmon, brown rice, cheese, pine nuts, beans, turkey, milk, yogurt, and cottage cheese or you can supplement with at least 50-to-100mg of Zinc dailyhttp://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=f...1&a=B00068TV5G
2. Eat more healthy fats
Research has shown that men who ate diets rich in healthy fats like monounsaturated fats & Omega-3 fats had the highest testosterone levels so...
You can naturally raise your testosterone levels by adding more healthy fats by eating more nuts & seeds, fatty fish like salmon & tuna, avocados, olives, vegetable oils, and natural peanut butter and...
Eating a very low-fat diet can actually lead to lowered testosterone levels because your body needs healthy fats in order to produce testosterone but...
This doesn't mean you need to eat a REAL HIGH fat diet - Just make sure at least 20-to-30% of your total daily calories comes from healthy fats.
3. Lose body fat
The more overweight you are or the higher your body fat percentage is = The higher your estrogen levels will be because body fat contains an enzyme called aromatase that converts your 'manly' testosterone into 'womanly' estrogen making your testosterone levels drop so...
Go on a weight loss workout program to lower body fat, reduce estrogen and increase testosterone and...
Try not to Diet or cut too many calories when trying to lose body fat because you don't want your body going into starvation or survival mode which will cause your body to stop making testosterone so whenever you're trying to lose fat & increase testosterone at the same time...
Make sure you focus on losing 1-to-3 pounds of fat a week mainly thru weight loss exercise.
4. Get rid of excess estrogen
To get rid of excess estrogen that makes you fatter & weaker so your body can naturally produce more testosterone...

• You can eat more RAW cruciferous vegetables like broccoli, cabbage, and cauliflower because cruciferous vegetables contain a chemical called diindolylmethane (or DIM) that helps your body get rid of excess estrogen and... You can supplement with DIM to flush out excess estrogenhttp://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=f...1&a=B000GFPCZ2 or eat these other sources of cruciferous vegetables like Brussels sprouts, bok choi, radishes, turnips, collard greens, and kale and...
• You can eat more fiber to naturally cleanse your body and flush out toxins that cause you to have excess estrogen (like the xenoestrogens from #5 below) - Most fruits & vegetables, nuts & beans are all high in fiber and...
• You can also supplement with Red grape skin extract (resveratrol) to help your liver remove excess estrogen.

5. Try to avoid Xenoestrogens
Xenoestrogens are man-made estrogens that are found in things like pesticides, artificial growth hormones & steroids, air fresheners and plastic containers and these xenoestrogens will increase your levels of the female hormone estrogen while lowering testosterone so...

• Eat more organic fruits & vegetables that are free of pesticides and if you do buy your fruits & vegetables at a regular grocery store... Make sure you wash them to lower your chances of consuming any xenoestrogens and...
• Eat more naturally raised meats instead of eating beef, chicken, pork and even milk that was raised using artificial growth hormones and steroids and...
• Use glass products to store food & water instead of plastic since plastic products tend to produce xenoestrogens that'll get into your water & food especially when heated and... Even some canned foods contain plastic coatings that contain xenoestrogens and...
• Don't use any perfumes, colognes, or air fresheners that have parabens listed as one of the ingredients. Parabens are xenoestrogens.

Please note: It'll be fairly hard for you to 100% completely avoid all xenoestrogens but if you follow the other tips on this page (especially tips #3 & #4) - You'll still be able to naturally increase your testosterone while getting rid of excess estrogen without having to worry so much about trying to avoid xenoestrogens and...

Also note: Since most xenoestrogens accumulate in your body fat - your best defense against xenoestrogens is to lose body fat (look at #3 again)
6. Get at least 6-to-8 hours of Sleep every night
A university of Chicago study showed that men who got little sleep had way lower testosterone levels than men who got 6-to-8 hours of sleep and... According to a University of North Carolina study... Your testosterone levels can drop down by as much as 40 PERCENT when you don't get enough sleep and generally...
Your testosterone levels are 30% higher in the morning than in the evening and this is why you may be more horny in the mornings and as a matter of fact...
A loss of morning erections or loss of sexual desire in the morning could be a sign that your testosterone is declining so you need to get 6-to-8 hours of sleep every night because while you're sleeping...
Your body produces the most testosterone and the better you sleep the more testosterone your body will produce while you sleep so if you're having trouble getting 6-to-8 hours of good quality 'testosterone producing' sleep every night - Look at 33 Secrets to a Good Night's Sleep
7. Stress Less
When you get stressed out - your body releases a "stress" hormone called cortisol that shuts down testosterone production...
Research led by Population Council endocrinologist Matthew Hardy found that stress hormones like cortisol overpower the enzymes responsible for ensuring that cells in the testes produce testosterone
Cortisol also makes you gain belly fat and you already know from #3 above that the fatter you are = you'll have more estrogen and less testosterone so...
You need to stop worrying about the little things, avoid overtraining, control your temper and look at these ways to lower stress and Being more positive can reduce your stress levels and increase Testosterone...
A recent study found that fans of a losing team had 50 percent lower levels of testosterone after their team lost and fans had up to 100% higher levels of testosterone after their team won.
Taking a natural supplement like Ashwagandhahttp://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=f...1&a=B00068UBYQ can also help reduce cortisol.
8. Take 1000-to-1500mg of Vitamin C per day
Now if you have a hard time avoiding stress - you want to start taking 1000-to-1500mg of Vitamin C per day because...

1. Vitamin C has been shown to lower cortisol levels allowing your body to make more Testosterone and like Zinc...
2. Vitamin C reduces the armostase enzyme that converts your Testosterone into Estrogen.

9. Workout like a man
You can force your body to produce a lot of testosterone when you...

• Do Compound exercises that train several large muscle groups like Power Cleans, Squats, Deadlifts, Bench presses, Chin-ups, Dips, and Military presses and you can still do isolation exercises like triceps extensions, bicep curls or chest flyes for definition but if trying to boost your Testosterone and build more muscle quickly - stick with compound exercises and...
• According to a Swedish study... To get the biggest boost in testosterone when you do your compound exercises... Make sure you use heavy weights that will allow you to only do about 3-to-5 reps per set and you want to do about 5-to-8 sets of each compound exercise you do but...
• You also want to limit your workout time on those compound exercises to 1-to-2 hours so just do only 1-to-2 compound exercises followed by a few optional isolation exercises twice a week (Mon. & Thur. for example) and as for burning fat...
• Avoid 'sissy cardio' where you walk or run for long periods of time and start doing Manly Cardio workouts like Hill sprints and intervals 3-to-4 times a week and limit your long duration sissy cardio workouts to only 2 times a week and...
• Make extra sure that you rest harder than you work out because overtraining leads to more cortisol and lower testosterone (see #7 again) and you may need to get 8+ hours of sleep to allow your body to recuperate and produce more testosterone after you workout like a man (see #6 again) and...

10. Try to get Sexually Stimulated as much as possible
If you're not getting sexual stimulated or sexual aroused very much right now (especially if you're over 40)... You can dramatically boost your testosterone levels by getting sexually stimulated more often so basically...
You need to start doing almost anything you can to get a sexually stimulating 'Viagra free' erection and German scientists even found that simply having an erection causes your levels of circulating testosterone to rise significantly and look at how these other 3 studies prove how much your testosterone can rise after getting sexual stimulated...
In a study done by Ludwig Boltzmann Institute for Urban Ethology in Vienna... 10 men viewed a 15 minute pornographic film and the men's testosterone levels increased 100 percent afterwards.

Another study published by Psychoneuroendocrinology used sexually arousing films on 9 males and testosterone levels increased within 10 minutes of sexually arousal.

In a study published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior... Testosterone was measured every 15 min for 3 hours in 8 men before, during, and after the showing of a sexually explicit movie and there was an average increase of 35% in testosterone so...
Not getting sexual stimulated or aroused for long periods of time can actually decrease your testosterone levels so if you find it hard to get sexually stimulated... You can do all the other 12 things on this page to increase your testosterone which will increase your sex drive or libido making you get sexually stimulated much easier and/or...
You can take a supplement like Horny Goat Weedhttp://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=f...1&a=B000R0AS14 to make you get sexually stimulated more easier to ramp up your testosterone levels.
11. Make sure you're getting enough vitamin A, B & E
Vitamins A, B, E (along with Vitamin C & zinc) are all essential in the production of testosterone and not getting enough A, B, & E Vitamins will lead to lower testosterone levels but... If you're eating plenty of fruits & veggies, lean meats and nuts then you shouldn't have to worry too much about supplementing with any extra A, B, & E Vitamins.
12. Don't overheat your testicles (your balls)
Your testicles need to be 94-to-96 degrees or about 2 degrees cooler than your body temperature to function at it's best and produce the most testosterone so...
If you're wearing tight underwear, tight pants, take long HOT baths or do anything thing else to overheat your testicles... You may inhibit your testosterone production so it's best to wear looser clothes like boxers to prevent overheating your balls and did you also know that...
Carrying around excess fat also overheats your testicles so look at #3 again for how to burn fat.
13. Don't Drink any Alcohol & Don't eat any Grapefruit
Even if you had only 2 drinks a day... Alcohol makes it hard for your liver to breakdown estrogen making you have more estrogen & less testosterone which will cause you to become more woman-like by making you loose facial & pubic hair, get man boobs and become impotent and...
Alcohol decrease zinc levels in your body (look at #1 again) an just like alcohol - Grapefruits can also make it hard for your liver to breakdown estrogen.

How to increase testosterone naturally I'll go with 50 Mg zinc, will try this routine in the right time, currently have high level, just sharing it hiope this helps

[Lazy 8 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Lazy 8]

Great post, Epsilon! Thanks for bringing it to the Gym.

[Nacho Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nacho]

Wow a lot of good info there! I had my MRI on Friday ... didn't realize I was so clostrophobic! Yikes! Made it through only by thinking about sex and keeping my eyes shut 100% of the time.

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I'm with you Nacho. I had to have them stop that thing a few times and pull me out.

[Nacho Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nacho]

Well through visualization I can get erect to about an EQ of 6, maybe 7. Takes about 5 minutes. If this will help raise testosterone I'll try to do it once every couple hours as time permits at work.

[oscar5050 Member Find all posts View Profile Close oscar5050]

I found this web site to have a lot of ways to help increase testosterone, interesting reading.
Can Herbs Increase Testosterone? These 5 are the best!

[ajmarket Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ajmarket]

Good post.

For someone experiencing naturally low levels the best things that is going to help from that list is #1 lifting heavy, compound exercises. #2 diet and #3 sleep.

The supplements/herbs probably won't do anything. I've tried them all. I believe these tips are most helpful for someone who has normal test levels.. they could help boost them even a little higher.

Its pretty cool that u can acheieve an erection thru visualization. I can't do that very ofte

Doctor wasn't me to try a viagra for my next couple of sexual encounters and see if it helps... then he wants me to stop taking them and see how things are...

Meeting up in two weeks to discuss the results and possibly get refereed to a specialist.

He seems like a much more intelligent doctor than I'm used to seeing. He said he realyl doent like viagra or like prescribing it.. he said once I take it a few times it may comfort me and get rid of the psychological aspect of my e.d, but he definitley doesn't want me to take it regularly.. he just wants to narrow down my problem and fix it

[Lazy 8 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Lazy 8]

Other benefits of testosterone therapy

In the current edition of the Cleveland Clinic's Men's Health Advisor there is an item titled "Testosterone replacement improves metabolic syndrome, liver function." Here's what it says:

Middle-aged and older men with testosterone deficiencies my benefit from testosterone replacement therapy. A study present at The Endocrine Society's annual meeting in June suggests that the therapy improves the metabolic syndrome (a group of risk factors for cardiovascular disease and diabetes) and fatty liver disease in men with low testosterone.

The researchers found that restoring testosterone to normal levels in 122 men, ages 36-69, led to improvements in the men's weight, waist size and body mass index, and reduced their levels of C-reactive protein, a marker of inflammation linked to increased cardiovascular risk. Among the 47 men diagnosed with metabolic syndrome at the beginning of the study, 36 no longer had this diagnosis after two years of testosterone therapy, the researchers reported. Additionally, the men's liver function improved during the first year-and-a-half of the treatment, according to the study.