Soft On's and then this .......

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.....this is a responce i wrote to a thread that had been started a while ago. i though that I would paste it and try to find some input about this ROCK HARD mid sleep thing that happened.

Thought I would let you in on what I read last night on the Thunder site about this topic. If you are loosing EQ,take two weeks and do nothing as far as PE,and dont touch yourself in areas that would get you going. Sort of a reboot as I have read here. Its interesting to note that all though I have not been hard hard in years,last month I woke up mid sleep with a rod I could have drilled through a wall with.That said I am thinking over training,taking a break from PE,and no porn at all is what I am heading into for the next two weeks.Even Viagra did not get the type of wood I had that night,I dont even know why it was so hard with no stimulation for the mins that followed. All I know is its worth taking a break and try it out. I started just under 6 inches,and over the last two years have made the jump to 7.If I could get that hard on demand I am very very sure I am bigger than that. Chime in,any thoughts ! TAAB

......basically my reply was it was about the lose of EQ. What my question is based on my experiance ,does it sound possible for me to get this sort of wood on demand agian ? Thanks Again TAAB

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So let me get this right...........With the lack of a responce,....No one has had wood like that in the mid sleep of the night with ED !? I think that may be good news for me TAAB

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Im back at this post because finally it happend again. The first two above postings where from some months ago,since then I have droped porn,and am at one and a half months.
I have been kind of waiting to see if my EQ would get better over this time without porn.Also I have been doing serious PE over the last four months,so I do know I may be on the edge of over training. That said I am not getting quality time with my partner so I will keep going with my workouts due to the great gains of late.
NOW FOR THE GOOD NEWS ! I woke up mid sleep last night with an even better hardon than ever before.I got up and had to have a look at the new monster in the house. Its the first time in all the recent months of PE that I could see and feel the results with full blood flow. The thing weighs a lot more than I remember,and the over all size YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ! My goal like so many is 8x6 I am getting close,and am sure I will get there now,but most important I will get my EQ back at some point in time. Also now that I am up and typing,I still feel the difference having that much flow in the shaft.

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Ok today is July 21st 2013 I have decided too rob yet another chunk of information we all need to read. I have got full permission from the person who wrote this, and if you ask and its within the rules I can tell you what forum it was from. If you go to my progress thread you will see I am on a PE break, after 6 months of no porn I am still not as hard as I would like, nor as good as I will become. So heres the post,read it and please note the age. I find this to be very inspiring and motivational.

Creating a powerful sex drive, my ideas and experiences

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About 6-7 years ago, I began to experience erectile dysfunction and it got really bad. I could not get it up, even with viagra. It was so depressing, no morning wood, no spontaneous erection, nothing. Almost suicidal. I thought age had caught up with me.

In desperation, after doing some research, I almost totally stopped viewing porn and totally stopped jerking off. It's been roughly a year and I have not touched my dick except to wash it and pee. I treat it like its radioactive. I have watched a tiny bit of porn but nothing like before. I eat right, use a statin for cholesterol, exercise daily, and do some body building.

Result: Saturday night I had a date with a 43 year old former high end centerfold. I bet some of you would know her from certain mag. We had sex 4 times, once at 11 pm, then at 1am, then at 3 (I woke her up) then at 7 am. She said ( who knows if it were bullshit) that she had never been fucked like that in her life. My erections are like steel, with no ED drugs. I get morning wood everyday, and 3-5 rock hard nocturnal erections so hard they wake me up sometimes. They feel way harder than my teenage erections, at least what I can remember of hem, lol.

Kicker is, I am 60. I am actually seeing 4 women, 38, 40, now 43 and 50. The 50 year old is and was a couture model.

There is something that builds confidence, knowing that if the chemistry is right, you are going to get rock hard no matter what. No doubt whatsoever. And i must believe that's its really gratifying for your partner to know that SHE is why you are so turned on.

I never have an orgasm except when I am with a woman, never. I now get wet dreams, at my age, but I never jerk or edge or ever fondle myself. Radioactive, toxic.

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OK so because I am on a PE break I figure I will keep updating here so guys can stop asking for a pill/quick fix to getting there dick to work again.
All I can say is I hope auto save works well because I don't type that fast and I have lots to say about this topic and what I have found out.
Like most here at PEGym we are looking to have a bigger member. Maybe we should say we are looking for a better member.
So with all the different post about our dicks I had stumbled on Erectile Dysfunction Fourm and started reading about the different forum members and what could be done. Like many I had been given Viagra at the start and it worked ok. Then when that fizzed months down the road I tried more of the routines here, milking my dick for size and shape. Then I got my BathMate, Oooooooooooh it was like putting my dick in a girl at the beginning. As soon as I ran the shower I got semi hard, then not any more. I then found hanging and to this day now feel that when recovered from ED I will only hang and stretch. Possibly BathMate,but that will be VERY limited.
So do we see a pattern here ? Seems like there is a bit of DE sensitivity creeping in. This is what happens with Masturbation and Porn, together, apart ,one not the other.......It All ADDs Up to a long cycle of programming your brain away from.....See Girl, Mate With Girl UG ! It really is that simple, so again if you want a Quick fix this is it. Up till now a life time of Porn, Images ,and things that trigger DE sensitivity and ED,......And it may only take 30 Days of not touching your dick or looking at porn. Shit if it takes a year,the trade off is Quick compared to 20 years of looking at this stuff. Most are good to go at 90 days, some sooner, everyone is different so start today and get yourself back from the dead. If you like dating the PC girls, and all the stuff that has been releasing while getting off (dopamine),keep going. If you don't believe that it will catch up with you ,Then Keep Going. There are some who can still edged and build up and not go over the top,but you are still releasing Dopamine,Keep going. When your dick stops working. Come on back we can talk then. Just a note guys like Guy Lafleur and Pavel Bure were smokers in the Hockey prime. Ask your self how good could they have been if they didn't (jerk off/Porn)smoke ?

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So now we start with a bit of history. You may relate, and or notice that it looks like a lot of other posts on ED anti porn masturbation forums.
So once I discovered my dick, I was pulling and shaking that thing every morning and night. You remember how it was as a teen at home living with your parents, sneaking around under the sheets. Then the chase for a female that would help a guy out and get rid of that virginity thing. I remember the first time I got laid, like a champ I did her twice. She didn't believe it was my first time, well it was, and it was the second as well ! I did fine back then all young and full of testosterone. You could have pulled your pudd day in and day out and still got it done.
So masturbation became a daily thing and most of us never thought twice about it. Along the way there was the Playboy Mags, and then a few harder core Hustlers, Swank,...........and there was Chicks With Dicks snuck into some of the pages. Some where along the line we discovered that girls love to take it in the Ass as much as there pussy's. They didn't care if you were hot and muscular, or Ron Jeremy, They wanted it any way we would give it to them. All you had to do was show a girl and point it out in the latest mag rite !
So the next faze after a few long term girl friends and live in arrangements was the video. Now when living with or dating the porn and masturbation would ease off some due to actually having sex with a real human partner. I was starting to have issues with condoms and staying hard, but again with the long term set-ups my girls were on the pill. I had seen my fare share of strippers here in Canada when I turned 19,and again it was the weekly Friday beer run after work, or a crawl of sorts on the weekends. BUT when I started buying video tapes when living alone, what an eye opener. They would always send a small catalogue with all the latest. Don't forget the two for ones and package deals. Funny thing was I was buying for a guy who didn't have a credit card. Yes he was of age, and it was all legal. The thing was he would tape what he wanted, then gave me the originals. Soon the normal scenes didn't do it and video anal that gave me a woody was passé.
And the next faze is..................................Yaaaa we get a PC............................And Wait There's MORE ! WE get HIGH SPEED INTERNET ! Man there was days I wouldn't leave the house because I knew there was more to be seen that I hadn't seen , and I wanted to see that shit no matter what. Even when I had a GF and she would come by and blow me,I had to pull another load later when she left for my PC girls and all that other stuff going on. How Fucked up is that ? But I could still pop a pill and get it on. Its because I was tiered, or I rode my bike a long distance. Maybe it was because I was online late. Yes , That's the reasons my dick isn't what it was. You just keep telling yourself that. It just becomes the norm, every day blends into the next and we don't even put it together. I read where Call Girls know as soon as a guy cant get it up they are porn users. Ringing any Bells Boys ?

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So you may be wondering about why now I am all over this ED stuff, and yelling to any one that will listen. #1 you guys here on this forum are my main source of sexual improvements and info. Yes there are a great number of other site I visit , but I always come home.
#2 I have heard and seen some pretty horrific things over the years, and some of late that I cant stop thinking about. I feel that with all the reading about Porn and its effects there seems to be more links to our societies problems than I thought. Not only the way we look at females but our actions in general.
( Just a note here because I know its coming. No I am not religious , belong to any anti porn groups or paid to get all up in your faces. Its only my story and opinions, and I want to help.)
#3 I need a way to track and stay the course on my way back from a hellish ride I didn't know I was on.


Lets look at the word DOPAMINE (please read up and get all the details by GooGling it, or Your Brain On Porn) Look at the first three letters DOPe ( yes I added the e ) not to make light of this but ,there it is DOPe If you are looking at porn and jerking off you are an ADDICT. Its the same thing that is released when you are a binge eater, smoker drug user, alcoholic. This is probably the hardest addiction to rid yourself of, and here is why. If you have a drinking problem you need to go out at some point and get a drink. With porn it as simple as stepping out the door or turning on the TV. Images that our Cave Man brains were never meant to see are every where. Yes they may not be hard core, but they are not what is normal to the human brain. They have become the norm. So if you are an Alcoholic and you switch to Lite Beer, guess what your still off the wagon. Armature Porn maybe,pics only,could be erotic writing, or a sexy model on a bus side. OH and surfing CL ads and Dating sites pretty much qualifies as well.

So where am I today in this reboot. Well as of Feb 1st 2013 I stopped cold turkey surfing hard core porn. Never went back still clean and I consider on track. I did get the odd wicked stick mid sleep, but still not working the way I wanted. Truth is I was still pulling my member, weather it was PE or getting off to sleep, edging........... You get the point. Man it was hard to stay away from the sites I was on,and the last month I really wanted to start fresh on the Year but started a huge binge that was way over the top and had no idea that stuff was online. So after killing my dick and my brain I thought Feb 1st was it.
I don't think I can say it fixed me,in fact this is when I noticed that my dick was still dead. Ya I can get it done,but its always struggle and a stressor. So I though the one thing I could try was a Prostate Massager(whole new post . I did get some mid sleep wood after my first use of that thing,but it too is now on hold. I am going 60 days from last week till mid September of not touching my dick,and no porn. I also learned from many sites(its out there and consistent Im no Dr. ) that if you Masturbate you will get that dopamine rush,but your testosterone levels drop. However if you had sex with your GF your levels can go up. This is where my athletic curiosity got me on to this as well. The problem becomes identifying when your reboot is complete. In my case I feel all though I have read,and seen ads,and even prostrate videos that where on bad sites I don't think I ever ejaculated or got turned on. So even if you call that stuff something, its kind of an over lap to giving up the hard core stuff in February.Now it will be a Cap On The Top by not touching my dick. As for prostate health and not getting a release. Really I have got to have the healthiest prostate in the world with all the family I have flushed. I think what I will try after my full 60 days of reboot I may use the prostate massager for flushing my system when partner isn't available.Yet again Hands Off. They say that with older guys doing this type of reboot wet dreams may come into play. I say bring it on ! Hell if that wont make me feel young again. TAAB

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I had to add this about Testosterone levels .
It seems in a lot of reports it gets a bit over simplified with the testosterone levels. I have read lab reports and some say Ya,some say Na on the boost of test production. What does seem to be consistent in all , is how the body responds to getting off or not,with masturbation or partner stimulation. My take is maybe the brain only gives the effects of more test being released with our different actions we take. There are things that seem to change along the way. So if we only get the effects to some degree , but levels don't move much,.......I think that's a win. Things I have seen change for myself are, voice deepens with abstinence, athletic activity improved. Im hoping sleep patterns improve as reported from others and of course my member will work better. They all mimic more test,only time will tell.
I really am wondering if as we get older and still can do things better stronger faster in some cases , maybe the body is using what we have for levels more efficiently. Maybe its more brain less muscle but that's how we cope. I am seeing things change daily as I get clean and hands off. TAAB

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Hey ! You know what ? A whole week without touching my dick ! That was pretty easy. Things like this come easy to me , and because of this I don't understand smokers who cant quit , or drinkers that turn into alcoholics and now Porn Addicts that keep watching. For me the key to making anything work is to keep your eye on the prize. I don't know how many guys I beat in a sprint only because I look past beyond the finish line. You climb to a hill top and ease up before you get there......BAAM ! I just past you............WiNNer ! So instead of aiming always at the next day to get away from porn/ED. Maybe look at the next week , month, or even the next year with all that wood you were missing.
For me I know that once I get rebooted I should see better sleep ,a hard dick, more confidence, time to spare, really the list goes on. Oh ya and the other big one. Once my dick works again ill be getting that last inch I was looking for. TAAB

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Do you kegel at all?

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I am doing the four long 30 second set That Carlos has in his read. I see this morning that you have found his post. On my end here It is no edging at all because it is still giving the Dopamine rush that our bodies crave, nor Prostate massage ,no stimulation at all. But when I Kegel its long holds. TAAB

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I keep posting because it keeps my hands off my dick So today although I want too , I wont touch my member. I find it interesting that if you go to even the last page of the ED forums/threads it the same questions, same problems and the same solutions. Its also very interesting the amount of denial when you see some on post things like..... Is this ok to look at, how about stills, can I edge, or hump my bed ,is there a new pill, tea or something I can buy ? What ever it is that we guys are asking the bottom line is you haven't come to the realization that you need to admit there's a problem and go cold turkey.
I am seeing so many memories day to day that caused things to not work in situations in the past. I flash back to this girl or the other and can link things to masturbating ,porn and the way things could have been so much different. Its so hard to now condemn porn when I love it so much, but I will love it now for different reasons. Now its about being the one that will be able to service girls when others cant. I wonder if there is a link to different cultures who are stronger and better off than North Americans beating our meat and watching porn. Maybe the government doesn't regulate it much because like religion it keeps us from stepping out and making a fuss about Governments ruling and actions. Im taking back control one day at a time ! TAAB

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Ok I'm a bit late on here tonight, but needed to post what's been going on over the first full week of this no touch reboot. Interestingly over the last week I look back and realize I went through some very depressed feelings and dark thoughts. They say this is normal with the lack of porn in your life if you are/were an addict. My observation is that even though I have been off porn 6 months I still ran into depression once I cut out masturbation. Seems like any habit can do this to you with the lack of dopamine being release for self pleasure. Even though I feel I have total control over this reboot this is something I didn't expect. The good news is I got through it without messing up, but how easy you can be out of control in a way and not even knowing it. Onward and UPWARD ! TAAB

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If anyone is looking for the cliff notes to this thread it's....
• Only touch your dick to pee and to wash it.
• Don't watch porn.
• The end. . .

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Hello sir,
I have red your post which is very important for me to recover my erection if you are share your experience with me and important things is that the way you mentioned that without any pills you have recovered penis erection thats very valuable things.so now my concern is that i am also looking for the same thing what you have done it back so please help me out in this case and also your help make me smile.i would be really appreciated!!!