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  • Low EQ, hard flaccd, pelvic floor, discoveries and solutions!

    Hello all,

    I have lurked on this site on and off and have bitten the bullet and become a member. I'm so new to the site that i haven't even made a single post yet; i wouldn't normally jump in at the deep end and start a thread but i discovered a lot of information regarding problems ive suffered with (still am), and wish to share my story and maybe start a thread where we can exchange ideas to help everyone.

    This may be a tad long but hopefully coherant and helpful, i will mention; erection quality, hard flaccids, pelvic floor, varicoceles, proctalgia fugax, testicular tortion, prostatitis and how all of these could be linked, i will use my experiance to illustrate and share my opinions and findings and let you know what steps i'm taking to fix myself!

    I will start with my first ever 'unusual' experiance 'downstairs' as it is very relevent. I was 14 years old and experiancing these horrible attacks of symptoms, shaking violently, nausea, fear, cramps, light headedness and a feeling 'downstairs' i described to the doctor as heavy or light. I was tested at the time for all sorts of things, i.e. epilepsy, etc, etc. Its now that i know i was experiancing panic attacks, and anxiety. And the light and heavy sensation was my pelvic floor, kegaling or reverse kegaling involuntarily. I eventually became so depressed and fed up of these constant attacks every night that had me virtually house bound that i considered suicide, and at that moment i realised i would honestly rather be dead than experiance those attacks anymore, i had no fear of death as it seemed the less painful option, and with my fear of death gone my fear of everything else went with it. No fear = No panic attacks/anxiety. My involuntary contractions vanished as well (relevently).

    Years go by trouble free, then im 19, living with my girlfriend and her family. One night after a meal i had the most horrendous pain ive ever experianced, primarily in my testicles, and up my lower abs, and lower back, i also feel a general heavyness down there a bit like mega blueballs. I had a man chat with my gf's dad, he told me that it was a torsion of the testicle and he had experianced it once, but on the way to the hospital his had corrected itself. I assumed that had happened to me, the next day the pain had subsided and tenderness was present along with spasms in my pelvic area and some discomfort urinating, the search began to find out what had happened to me, the internet told me that i had prostatitis...i did some more research and i found out there were two types of prostatits....bacterial which is treated with antibiotics, and a type with slightly different symptoms that the doctors don't really understand....that is also treated with antibiotics (but never works). I discovered forums of guys like myself experiancing identical symptoms but no clue why or how to treat it. Luckily i stumbled on a website that suggest a radical new idea that this 'unkown' prostatitis was in fact a tightness of the pelvic floor. It said how when some men are anxious they hold their tension in their pelvic area, and it was called 'tail between the legs syndrome', it suddenly hit me that i must be experiancing that exact thing and thats why i had spasms and contractions with my panic attacks when i was younger! Things were starting to fall into place and hope was here again, i got my girlfriend to massage my lower back and i focussed on relaxing as much as possible...i had little knowledge of the pelvic floor at this time, and i was foccusing on extending my belly until it felt heavy (reverse kegal), these things worked to a degree and i felt like i was healing....my erection quality took a dive at this point in time and i stayed off sex for a while. Things were looking up.

    Then i found a lump on my testicle! just above the right testicle, and it didn't seem to be attached to the testicle itself. I became anxious about what was going on and considered going to the doctors, with more anxiety came more spasms and i decided it must all be linked and i had no idea what was going on down there anymore. I did notice however that sometimes the lump was swollen and protruding and other times it would dissapear. i did more research and decided it was no more than a varicocele...apparently if it is not painful then doctors recomend you leave it alone. So i left it be and it gave me no problems. Interestingly i read this yesterday and it seemed to fit the bill. https://www.pegym.com/forums/penile-...aricocele.html

    Well after that i was fine day to day, occasionally my varicocele would swell and be uncomfortable, occasionlly i would get pelvic floor spams of differing pain intensity (mainly at night), and occasionally it would be uncomfortable to pass urine (with spasms while i urinated). Two other symptoms i havent mentioned are that i have had hard flaccids my whole life: a hard flaccid is when the penis looks normal or slightly smaller, the skin is still normal but the tissue inside is hard, i often think my penis resembles a bullet with a foreskin! I thought these were normal so ignored them, and also with lengthy masturbation i would get spasms.

    Some more research assured me i was experaincing proctalgia fugax Proctalgia fugax - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    In summary it is a pain in the pelvic floor, often felt around the rectum but not in the rectum. I again found forums full of men and women experiancing this with no idea why, very similar to the 'unkown prostatitis'. Some suggestions to help the problem were no caffeine, lower frequency masturbation, and some stretches (on all fours pushing the buttucks out and back like a cat stretching....or a hooker eager for doggy....i digress) However that stretch proved to help anytime i felt a spasm might occur or did occur, the stretch stopped me getting any problems, and i still use it today.

    Since lurking on this site and absorbing all people have said about the pelvic floor i am convinced that everything i've said is linked to the pelvic floor.

    So i know that i do have a tight pelvic floor and im convinced my other symptoms/problems are a by product as well. I have now been looking for ways to re-balance the pelvic floor. I read an article on child birth the other day (dont ask), and the lady writing the article is an expert on the pelvic floor, she says that conventional doctors will evaluate your pelvic floor and diagnose that the muscles are weak and need strengthening (kegels etc) however her take on it is that the muscles are weak from being in a contracted state for too long and that really the muscles don't need strengthening but lengthening and stretching.

    (Also with regards to the above talk of the muscles being weak from over contraction...this might be why i (and apparently others) push our hips forward and kegel in order to maintain our erections at a decent level, without which i would struggle to maintain a decent erection. But as you may know if you have shared the experiance, you can only kegel for so long due to the weakness of the muscles and our members wilt somewhat.

    I have been focussing on staying relaxed and deep breathing (with reverse kegels) and this has been working like a charm, no spasms since ive been doing this, no discomfort urinating. The occasional hard flaccid and erection issues still present which suggests there is still tightness, or out of balance muscles.

    Which after even more research i have found that posture can actually cause a tight contracted pelvic floor...specifically an anterior pelvic tilt...which i have (oh yay). Strangely my gf has just gone through physio and corrected her anterior pelvic tilt so i have stolen her physiotherapy exercises. So my aims to eradicate all issues are as follows:

    Fix my anterior pelvic tilt, which will balance the hip angle and release tension on the hip flexors, quads, and various other pelvic floor/back muscles.

    Providing this works i shall maintain my good posture, strengthen my core muscles and continue deep breathing/meditating and evaluate from there.

    This is just my own story, experiances, opinions and decisions. I would always recomend seeing a doctor if you experiance anything like i have. If my story struck a chord and you have had similar experiances then please help me collate heaps of information and solutions that we can all hopefully learn from and fix our issues. Ask any relevent questions you wish, and good luck to all in your fight.

    Sycoss

    p.s. A side note regarding blueballs, blueballs has been proved to be related to blood flow and blood being congested in the balls and not released correctly. Could a tight pelvic floor also be affecting bloodflow? and thereby causing blueballs? Because damn i get blueballs soo regularly and that would make sence to me.
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    Last edited by closed011; 01-09-2013, 07:44 PM.
    Goal 1: Cured my tight pelvic floor/posture/EQ/hard flaccid/varicocele
    Goal 2: Strengthen my pelvic floor and learn karezza.

    BPEL: 6.00
    EG: 5.00

  • #2
    You need to look at reverse kegel heavy k/rk routines. Look at MarcusHa's stretching threads. I also suggest massage.

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    • #3
      I would have thought that an anterior pelvi tilt was good for relaxing the pelvic area, where as a posterior pelvic tilt was bad. Whenever I stick my butt out I feel like it relaxes my pelvic muscles more and seems easier to reverse kegal. Also that position you described about pushing our hips forward to maintain a decent erection, that would be a posterior pelvic tilt right? So you think this is why we do it? Because the pelic floor muscles are more relaxed in this position?
      Start : BPEL 6.4" x MEG 4.75"
      Latest : BPEL 7.0" x MEG 5.00"

      Short Term Goal : BPEL 7.5" x MEG 5.25"
      Long Term Goal : BPEL 8" x MEG 6"

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      • #4
        Pegasus: That seems just the ticket, i will have a look at doing that alongside my posture correction. I guess i do a form of it allready with deep breathing, kegel on the exhale and r/kegal on the inhale. Thanks for your suggestion

        Samurai: Thats a really interesting point, because like you my pelvic area feels more comfortable when i push my butt back. But my pelvic tilt is with me 24/7 and is only slight, but because of this tilt (due to sitting down a lot etc) then my hip flexors and quads are tight which tilts my pelvis, this also disengages the glutes and hamstrings (which contribute majorly in core and pelvic support), so they become weak; so when we do a squat etc we are engaging those muscles we don't usually use. That is maybe why it feels more comfortable, because all of the correct muscles are engaging?

        Yes i guess the hip thrust is a posterior pelvic tilt essentially, but i know i contract my glutes hard and squeeze (kegel) to produce a stronger erection, my thought would be that im contracting all of my pelvic floor muscles to force blood into my member. Maybe its an instinctive movement to correct our posture and achieve a better erection?

        The body is a strange thing huh? and something we all experiance really differently i guess
        Goal 1: Cured my tight pelvic floor/posture/EQ/hard flaccid/varicocele
        Goal 2: Strengthen my pelvic floor and learn karezza.

        BPEL: 6.00
        EG: 5.00

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        • #5
          sycoss, first of all thank you for starting this thread. It has really got me excited because all of this advice of reverse kegaling, doing squats against the wall and doing various types of stretches for the pelvic floor is all well and good to improve the condition BUT I want to find the bloody cause of it. The bad posture does make sense. I also sit down a lot and when I masturbate I had the habit of clenching my glutes and tilting my pelvis like its in a thrusting position. My hip flexors are tight but my hamstrings are as well. Do you find that your glutes are in a constant state of contraction and only when you realize it then you consciously relax them? But of course they will contract as soon as you forget about them again. I find that slightly bending my knees when standing allows me to relax my pelvic floor a lot, maybe this is because it corrects my posture. I have a full (not turtled) hard flaccid and have zero pain in my pelvic floor, my erections are fine as long as I don't over use it i.e. I can't have marathon sessions like I used to as my erections get weaker through tiredness I would imagine. Could you give me some information on the posture exercises you do? Also how do I know what the correct posture is should be striving for?
          Start : BPEL 6.4" x MEG 4.75"
          Latest : BPEL 7.0" x MEG 5.00"

          Short Term Goal : BPEL 7.5" x MEG 5.25"
          Long Term Goal : BPEL 8" x MEG 6"

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          • #6
            A physio could be of use to you both.

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            • #7
              Samurai: It seems we have a lot in common in terms of habits etc, as pegasus said a physio would do us both good! I like to fix myself in many senses, if im ill, injured or having problems, i like to find the cause as you say and work from there. As i said my gf has been seeing a physio and i have been following what he has told her to do, she even told me how to check for incorrect posture and im now doing the exercises religiously. I must say that i have noticed changes, even after only completing the exercises a few times! My penis has never been softer, i didnt realise that it was in a slight state of hard flaccid all the time, its now soft...and strangely it used to hang to the left dramatically causing a curved/bent/swayed erection to the left, it now sits straight and doesnt veer to the left at all (havent checked erect state). My whole pelvic floor seems free....as though its been released at last! When i urinate it is free and flowing, where in the past it would spasm involuntarily and i have allways had to concentrate on relaxing r/kegeling my pelvic floor just to urinate.

              I can't see how all of this is coincidental, i'm certain that my positive results are due to the posture exercises. My next check will be on my erect penis (direction, and also tightness of ligaments, i have always had very tight painful ligaments, im willing to bet thats back to normal now) so i can see if the changes have helped my erections. I am happy to explain how i checked my posture and make a list of the exercises im doing but my disclaimer is that i'm not a certified physio, despite these exercises coming from a certified physio i am not to blame if you twang a muscle :P (these exercises are very gentle and simple anyway)

              You might find it useful to check google images (anterior pelvic tilt) where they comapare normal and abnormal posture. A couple of ways of checking posture are as follows: Stand with your back against a wall, heels 10 or so cm's away from wall. Make sure your bum, shoudlers and head are making contact but dont force the position. Now without moving reach back and feel your lower back. If there is a considerable gap between the wall and your back (say...2 inches or more) that is a good indication that you have anterior pelvic tilt. (It took me a few tries to check but there was a gap of about 2 inches, apparently you should just fit two knuckles width between your back and the wall.)

              The other method it to wear a pair of tracksuit pants, (stretchy waistband) and stand side on looking in a mirror. Tense your abs as hard as possible and adjust the pants to sit completely level around your hips, now release tension....if your butt sways back slightly and your waistband is now on a forward angle that is also a sign of anterior pelvic tilt.

              The exercises i do are as follows (titled with the muscle group beign targeted)

              Glutes:
              Glute Bridges (20 reps, 3 sets) Core Exercises : Core Exercises: Bridge - YouTube

              Quads:
              Quad stretch (20 secs, 3 sets) How to Stretch Quads - YouTube (good demo but physio said to hold the ankle instead)

              Hip Flexors:
              Lunge stretch (20 secs, 3 sets) Hip Flexor Lunge muscle stretch - YouTube (Focus on keeping the hips straight the way your body is facing)

              Hip rotaters:
              Clamshell exercise (20 reps, 3 sets) Hip Clamshell Internal/External Rotator Strengthening - YouTube (Dont lean on your arm like this guy...lie down fully)

              I generally complete all exercises once through and then repeat them to get 3 sets. The physio guidlines were to complete daily for 2 weeks and then cut down to 4 times a week. (My gf was lazy and only completed the exercises twice a week (so 4 times in the two weeks) and that cured here psoture problem.

              Like i said i have noticed a world of difference, maybe this can help someone else? I will update when i check my erect state and with any new news.

              Good luck samurai and all attempting to progress!
              Goal 1: Cured my tight pelvic floor/posture/EQ/hard flaccid/varicocele
              Goal 2: Strengthen my pelvic floor and learn karezza.

              BPEL: 6.00
              EG: 5.00

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              • #8
                In addition: My erect state is improved amazingly, i checked last night (my ligaments are looser than they were but there is still a swaying left when erect; which im sure i can cure in time) My erection stayed relatively hard without any kegeling or squeezing, its clear my erection quality is still not 100% (maybe a 7 out of 10) but thats to be expected while my ligs and muscles resume normal function: and still a better erection than usual...no battling to keep the bugger up. I'm also recovering from over exposure to porn and masturbation lately which made my erection quality dive further, so with that in mind i'm happy with my progress....but best of all was no tightness spasming or contracting after ejaculation...which would sometimes last into the night.

                Think i'm on the right path, will keep you updated with any noticeable changes. Then perhaps after my body has returned to functioning normally...i can begin PE!
                Goal 1: Cured my tight pelvic floor/posture/EQ/hard flaccid/varicocele
                Goal 2: Strengthen my pelvic floor and learn karezza.

                BPEL: 6.00
                EG: 5.00

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                • #9
                  Awesome stuff sycoss, I'm delighted you are making progress. Thanks a lot for the exercises. I'm not sure how much of an anterior pelvic tilt I have but I think it is slight. I will try these exercises and see how I get on. I will post my progress on here.
                  Start : BPEL 6.4" x MEG 4.75"
                  Latest : BPEL 7.0" x MEG 5.00"

                  Short Term Goal : BPEL 7.5" x MEG 5.25"
                  Long Term Goal : BPEL 8" x MEG 6"

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                  • #10
                    My pelvic tilt was only slight (in fact i decided i didnt have one...but my gf scowled at me and told me i did...well on second check she was right)...slight tilt can cause a world of pain though i guess! Good luck, i hope you make immediate progress like i did.
                    Goal 1: Cured my tight pelvic floor/posture/EQ/hard flaccid/varicocele
                    Goal 2: Strengthen my pelvic floor and learn karezza.

                    BPEL: 6.00
                    EG: 5.00

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                    • #11
                      All quiet on the western front, i keep practicing the exercises and my posture feels better day by day. No pelvic floor pain, spasms etc, urination still free and easy with no contractions. All seems to be working well! I shall check my erection quality in a couple of days and update. One thing i have noticed is that my varicocele was more bulgy and prominent when i was erect recently, no pain or discomfort and no sign of the varicocele since a few days ago...will check if its present the next time i check erection quality. Varicocele only present when im masturbating...and dissapears immediately after ejaculation....so maybe the trapped blood theory holds ground? Be interesting to check....i've also heard a theory that it is backed up sperm in the sperm duct....that would also explain dissapearance on ejaculation. Well food for thought, hope others are progressing too! Good luck to all.
                      Goal 1: Cured my tight pelvic floor/posture/EQ/hard flaccid/varicocele
                      Goal 2: Strengthen my pelvic floor and learn karezza.

                      BPEL: 6.00
                      EG: 5.00

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                      • #12
                        Hi all, My idea's and techniques have worked, my pelvic tilt is corrected (which makes me look tons better) and my pelvic floor has had no pain etc. My EQ has come back like a champ, my varicocele has vanished, i havent had a hard flaccid for a week or two. I feel normal in the downstairs department, but as expected my PC muscles do appear weak from years of constant contraction. My new game plan is a slightly more advanced exercise daily to keep the pelvic tilt away for good (this exercise takes seconds to finish and seems to be great). From now i am also going to practice kegels and r/kegels daily to get my mojo back :P along with a century count for meditation. Oh and i started no pmo & nofap & karezza 5 days ago, so my goal now is to get the tackle working to a high standard. Once things have settled down and i can perform like a stallion again i shall move into some proper pe exercises. Hope this thread has been useful to some, please ask any questions you may have and i will update again soon if any changes occur.

                        p.s. i wouldn't normally update a dead thread but if there is a slim chance i can help someone relieve the pain that i experianced then i shall keep the cause alive!
                        Goal 1: Cured my tight pelvic floor/posture/EQ/hard flaccid/varicocele
                        Goal 2: Strengthen my pelvic floor and learn karezza.

                        BPEL: 6.00
                        EG: 5.00

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                        • #13
                          hey sycoss, I had a very similar experience with my pelvic floor and reverse kegels helped a lot with erections, but until I read your post I had no idea that
                          I have a very pronounced pelvic tilt.. wow!, I'm definitely doing some exercises to correct my posture. how long did it take you to come back to normal?

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                          • #14
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                            • #15
                              Hey sycoss, I too experience "hard flaccid". Not as often as I used to, but I still experience it from time to time. How can I go about resolving this?

                              - Cwreck
                              BPEL: 5.0 , 5.2 , 5.4 , 5.6 , 5.8 , 6.0 , 6.2 ,
                              EG:4.75 , 5.0 , 5.2 , 5.4 , 5.6

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