Going To The Doctor

[watson03 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close watson03]

So I think I have ED and am going to be making an appointment. Im 23. I spent a year doing some serious cycling and I think that all the time sitting on the perineum may done some damage.

What kind of tests can I expect to be done? Does insurance usually cover them?

[paranoid22 Banned Find all posts View Profile Close paranoid22]

Don't expect much from them, doctors and urologists are pretty much useless when it comes to ED. You are much more likely finding a solution and explanation to your ED on this forum and others, I'm not saying don't go to the doctor or urologist, I'm just letting you know so your not dissapointed dude. They really are a bunch of fucking morons that know very little. Don't settle for the ”its in your head” speech, I guarentee they will use that on you. And for the love of god do not accept any anti depressants from them, they are very quick to hand those out without mentioning the side affects actually cause ED.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Don't expect much from them, doctors and urologists are pretty much useless when it comes to ED. You are much more likely finding a solution and explanation to your ED on this forum and others, I'm not saying don't go to the doctor or urologist, I'm just letting you know so your not dissapointed dude. They really are a bunch of fucking morons that know very little. Don't settle for the ”its in your head” speech, I guarentee they will use that on you. And for the love of god do not accept any anti depressants from them, they are very quick to hand those out without mentioning the side affects actually cause ED.

Yup he's right; them damn docs don't know anything. Forget all that studying and training and experience. It don't mean nuttin. Personally I like to get all my medical advice from my auto mechanic. Hey those guys know their shit except they keep finding things wrong with my car that weren't really wrong cause they're just trying to make money. Hey it sounds like the docs; who would have thought! How dumb!

[paranoid22 Banned Find all posts View Profile Close paranoid22]

I'm going from personal experience and other peoples experiences.....it never gets solved or diagnosed properly, I have not heard of one person going to a urologist or doctor and having there ED resolved, they are very much in the darks ages with it and lack any understanding of how the pelvic floor plays a role in ED. Nearlly all of them use the “its in your head“ speech. I'm not being an asshole its a fact, there's a top urologist in new york who is one of the best in the world and even he admitted urologists are extremely limited to what they can actually do because its still very much somthing that's stull being learnt, he also commented on how many of them diagbose veinious leaks when its not the case. There's people on this forum that are more qualified at diagnosing and resolving ED than the majority of urologists.

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Sorry but I have been here a long time. We have theories, we have things that maybe worked for some guy who said he had a this and what he did helped him but he really didn't have a this he had a that! Telling people not to go to a doc is wrong and irresponsible. Did his ed come from an undiagnosed diabetic condition? You qualified to diagnose that? Gee maybe he has the beginnings of testicular cancer and that's the problem. I know just let him die. The University of the Internet has theories; it is not a substitute for medicine. What you say is irresponsible and may harm others who read it.Yes you're entitled to your opinions but remember opinions are like assholes; everybodies got one!

[Dangler Senior Administrator☼ Wizard ☼ White Tiger Award 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Dangler]

In my mind/thinking, eliminating any physiological conditions, medical factors is key before proceeding down other avenues. Just saying you want to see as many of the cards to help you make progress, get things resolved.

[sweetie52 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sweetie52]

Doesn't blood flow to the penis have to do with erections? If there is no blood flow-then it's a "no-go". Constriction, somewhere there.

[paranoid22 Banned Find all posts View Profile Close paranoid22]

Sorry but I have been here a long time. We have theories, we have things that maybe worked for some guy who said he had a this and what he did helped him but he really didn't have a this he had a that! Telling people not to go to a doc is wrong and irresponsible. Did his ed come from an undiagnosed diabetic condition? You qualified to diagnose that? Gee maybe he has the beginnings of testicular cancer and that's the problem. I know just let him die. The University of the Internet has theories; it is not a substitute for medicine. What you say is irresponsible and may harm others who read it.Yes you're entitled to your opinions but remember opinions are like assholes; everybodies got one!

You misunderstand me and I don't think you read what I said earlier properly dude, I was just telling him not to expect a lot out of them I never said don't go. Urologists are extremely unhelpful and give false diagnosis all the time, I was explaining urology when it comes to erections is still very much somthing that's not very well understood. Its easier for them to tell you its in your head or chuck viagra at you, when I was talking about the internet being helpful I had hard flaccid in min, urologists don't even know what hard flaccid is and they deny it exists. Hard flaccid was talked about on forums by people that had explained what it was and how to solve it. Lots of people have solved hard flaccid because of forums. And I have seen otherr storys of different ed being resolved or improved because of advice from forums like this. I have never heard of somone going to a urologist and getting genuine help where it gets resolved because all a urologist can really do is diagnose veinous leaks and hand out viagra, I'm not trying to sound negative but its a fact

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How do you know I am not a urologist? I do happen to know that 2 of them are members ( that don't post often but come and do much reading) and they do feel a bit differently than you speak. There are conditions, usually self induced, that medicine has not figured out a cure for yet but it does not mean they are not a knowledgeable group that for the most part try and do help. Because you're experience was not what you wanted it to be doesn't mean they're wrong.

[paranoid22 Banned Find all posts View Profile Close paranoid22]

Again, you haven't actually read my post properly, I'm going by my experience with 4 different urologists, I'm going by hundreds of people that have been given the ”its in your head speech” and I'm going by what is argueably the one of the best urologists in the world from new york actually said, I'm pretty sure he used the word incompetent to describe most urologists. You seem to think of me as some retard that is here to just look negatively on them for no reaso, my origonal reply if you read carefully was intended to just let him know what was more than likely to happen so he wasn't dissapointed, when people get ED they think oh I'll just go to the doctor and have it resolved, I was basically letting him know that urology its not anywhere near as modern and explored as other medical conditions. My intentions were good. I didn't want him to be completely crushed when he walks out the urologist with little to no help.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

It never gets solved or diagnosed properly. Your words not mine. Do you think that words like that encourage one to go seek help or discourage?
"They are a bunch of fucking morons"! Again very encouraging advice. You see they have a doctorate in something, do you?
Your experience, at least for you was negative. We have many members here who have been helped by these "fucking morons".
And that big shot doc in NY who's the best? I think I know who you're talking about. I forget what hospital he works out of by I do remember his license getting pulled a couple of times over the past 10 years. Check it out; go to the NY State Dept of Education.

Now let's try being a bit more positive around here.

[paranoid22 Banned Find all posts View Profile Close paranoid22]

Dude I am all for positivity. He works at a medical university, as far as I know himself and a urologist in scotland are the only urologists that know what hard flaccid is and diagnose it, he also questioned whether a veinious leak is actually a myth or fact, he did experiments with people that were diagnosed with veinous leaks and he had a few theorys and ideas about what were actually causing the symptoms. I don't hate urologists, I hate that they act like the know what they are talking about and I hate the ones that give the its in your head speech, if a urologist holds his hand up and just explains he doesn't know what the problem is and urology is very limited in this day and age to actually permanently fixing erections but agrees to keep working with the patient then I have nothing but respect for them. I'm also curious about who they have actually helped as you mentioned? Can you link me some threads because I've honestly never seen it and you could prove me wrong while making me think a little differently about them.

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Go ask not2big; without his urologist he wouldn't be having a great sex life.

[paranoid22 Banned Find all posts View Profile Close paranoid22]

It would be much easier if you told me? I don't really come on this forum unless I'm bored and waiting for somthing like a bus so I don't think I would find the guy your talking about, I would hate to think you see me as a negative asshole because I'm really not. I'm not going to take back what I've said though because it really is fact. I wasn't trying to put this guy off seeing a uroloigist I was just commenting on what will 100%l happen when he sees a urologist, I get the feeling you don't have nearlly half as much experience dealing with them as I or most people on here do. There are good and bad in every proffession I am not denying that but the majority or urologiats are fucking morons as I have said before. I have taken the time to read a few of your posts and I know your far from an idiot so I would hate to cause bad bloos between us when I ocassionaly post on here.

[needingalift Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close needingalift]

I have to agree, broadly speaking, with Paranoid22 here.

Over the past 23 years I have seen two urologists who were both worse than useless. I kept paying them for what I am now convinced was pure guesswork, and I'd rather they'd just admitted they were clueless than continuing to waste my time and money.

I must have seen about a dozen doctors too during this period. The fact that I have received at least 6 vastly different diagnoses from them (including prostatitis/IBS/depression and the inevitable 'it's all in the mind') indicates to me that none of them actually know what the problem is.

The best doc I've seen so far was the most recent one, about 3 months ago, who said "ED is a poorly-understood condition. Once the obvious causes have been ruled out we're really groping in the dark, and with you there is nothing apparent". I admired his honesty and he offered me some Viagra, saying "it's a bit of a one-size-fits-all remedy, but about the best we have to offer right now".

I did like his approach - no BS; just an admission that medical science at this moment cannot solve certain ailments and, unfortunately, ED is amongst them. Sure, the doc can diagnose some things and rule out others so it's always worthwhile getting checked, but once they start going down the psychology route and dishing out the SSRI's you know they're beaten