Porn without Masturbation? Is it worse?

[jamoke125 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jamoke125]

I started watching porn when I was 11 or 12 and A LOT of it when I was 13+ (like 2-3 hours a day at night). But the weird part is I never masturbated to it, or ever masturbated at all for that matter until I was 18. I don't know why, or how I did this, but I did. I've recently realized I have porn induced ED and have been roughly 3-4 months free of porn. Before I quit porn I could not even get hard to it anymore and it would take a VIGOROUS hand job from a real life girl to get me hard and even then it would only last about 5 secs before dying down. Furthermore, I was completely desensitized to women. Like I could see a completely naked woman walking down the street and I would feel pretty much nothing. The funny part is when I was in high school I would go insane just looking at a girl in yoga pants or tight jeans. But, 3-4 months ago...nothing at all. Now, I know PMO (Porn->Masturbation->Orgasm) can cause porn induced ED, but I feel like just watching Porn is worse?? I don't really know, I'm just asking if maybe I messed myself up more than the regular guy that does PMO (jacks off to porn) because I just watched it for hours without masturbating? I can say that I feel I might be getting better very slightly since I've given up porn, but my libido/sensitivity to women is still down in the dumps and I honestly feel like I may have done permanent damage. Any thoughts?

[MrB8 Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2013 Find all posts View Profile Close MrB8]

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[Bnip Retired Moderator Member of the Month July 2013PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Bnip]

I only believe that porn is an issue if it starts effecting your everyday life and/or your sex life. If all is well, then I don't see it as a problem. I use porn as a PE aid. Others say this is wrong, but this has helped my PE career. Only you can decide if it is a problem for you.

[zezeze Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close zezeze]

90% of guys watch porn, 90% of them do not have problems because of it. If you have been without porn for 4 months without a difference, then itīs time to do something. Go to a doc, get blood tests done. If nothing, and still no good, ask for doppler ultrasound. It comes to question if you have difficulties getting hard/staying hard to rule out a physical issue.

You havenīt done permanent damage by watching porn.

[corageon Banned Find all posts View Profile Close corageon]

I only believe that porn is an issue if it starts effecting your everyday life and/or your sex life. If all is well, then I don't see it as a problem. I use porn as a PE aid. Others say this is wrong, but this has helped my PE career. Only you can decide if it is a problem for you.

Exactly. If you use porn as an aid for P.E or to establish your circuits - it's not a problem. If you are completely only juiced up on it, or you have narrowed/limited your fantasies to it - now you may be causing an issue. By mindset.
Alter and train backwards, while doing P.E exercises.