Changes at 50

[ggot Member Find all posts View Profile Close ggot]

Very much the same experience 'cept I am gay but all the rest yep!

[mulkey Banned Find all posts View Profile Close mulkey]

Some turned 50 this year. I've noticed changes in my sexual health:

- EQ quality is maybe 80-90% of what is used to be ( except mornings when it's 100% upon waking up)
- no more soon spontaneous erections
- decreased sensitivity ( I could go for an hour easily but takes significant effort to cum). I'm circumcised.
- low semen volume

I've taken steps to try and counteract these conditions:

- taking Viagra for EQ ( I hate it but works like a charm)
- taken supplements and got more sleep to raise levels ( from 420 to 520)
- tried to reduce anxiety over EQ by seeing a therapist
- drinking more water to stay hydrated and increase senen volume.

All seem to be working but it's s pain
In the ass worrying about all this. I wish I could just get it up whenever I want like 20 years ago. I could come just by rubbing my dick on my pants. But no more.

Some would say that I'm lucky that I can last a long time, by often the Gaf gets sore. Sometimes I can cum quickly if I'm spooning (:

Has anyone else experienced these issues at 50 ? My therapist says that I'm fine ( based on morning erections) and they I have anxiety. Maybe it's affecting all of the things noted above.

I had very similar problems. Couldn't get off sometimes and then would loose my boner. I'm 54. Just doing PE has helped me. I've been doing PE for a year now. I also do some edging but Iv'e never been real consistant on edging. Lately my EQ has been phenomenal and I have even gained a little size. Organisms are much more intense. Kegels have helped a lot also. I found early on that too much PE reverses the benefits. Failures will give you anxiety. One thing I did was to not worry about getting off and I always knew it would build up and I would get off next time. The woman liked it bc we would have to try again. It turned a negative into a positive.

[John Dough Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close John Dough]

Funny thing is, the first day I took citrulline malate, I did not need Viagra. It felt like I was on V. Hasnt really happened since that first day.

The first time I took arginine ethyl ester it was like I was a teenager again. It never worked again after that.

[John Dough Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close John Dough]

Copper Toxicity Theory of ED

Make sure to eat a little portion of beans or take a very tiny-sub-effective dose of Copper a day; as Zinc cumulatively depletes Copper if taken in excesses over 30 mg but even @25mg - eventually can oppose Copper-related enzymes.

There is a theory that age related erectile dysfunction and prostate swelling is caused by accumulation of excessive amounts of copper in the body. If that is true then taking copper supplements would only make things worse. Supposedly a hair mineral analysis can confirm whether an individual's copper levels are high. I haven't done that but I'm proceeding with the assumption it is true. I intend to be cautious with my changes and observe whether there is any improvement.

Step 1 - Reduce copper consumption

Many years ago I tried zinc supplements and separate copper supplements to balance it. I noticed that the copper supplements made my skin break out in pimples. Eating chocolate also makes my skin break out. Chocolate contains a large amount of copper. I used to eat a lot of chocolate and now I don't eat any. I use the following site to check for zinc and copper content of foods. This link shows the data for dark chocolate:

Nutrition Facts and Analysis for Candies, chocolate, dark, 70-85% cacao solids

I like to set the serving size to 100 grams before looking at the mineral content, so that I can compare different foods. Beef liver has ridiculous amounts of copper. Fortunately I never liked liver.

Step 2 - Enhance copper excretion

Excess copper is excreted by the liver in the bile. If there is insufficient bile flow the copper accumulates in the liver. To enhance bile flow I am increasing the fat in my diet. I have followed a relatively low fat diet for many years based on the theory it is heart healthy. I am now taking a few fish oil capsules a day and adding a pat of butter to my food occasionally.

Step 3 - Supplement copper antagonists

Mineral content in the body must be balanced. Taking one mineral supplement can cause a deficiency of another. Excess copper causes a deficiency of opposing minerals. That zinc is a copper antagonist is well known, but molybdenum and manganese are also copper antagonists. Doing an internet search I was able to find articles suggesting that deficiencies of molybdenum or manganese can cause erectile dysfunction.

I have just started taking 15 mg per day of zinc picolinate. This seems like a reasonable dose that shouldn't cause any problems even if taken long term. I also have some 150 mcg supplements of molybdenum, which is about the amount contained in a can of lentils. I have seen supplements as high as 1 mg (1000 micrograms), which seems excessive. I couldn't find any really low dose supplements of manganese, so I'm increasing my intake of whole grains, which are a good source. I may take a low dose (10 mg) manganese supplement later, on alternate days.

Here are some links to articles that talk about copper toxicity:

COPPER TOXICITY SYNDROME

ARL : Copper Toxicity

Copper Toxicity Symptoms and Treatment

Copper Toxicity - Metabolic Healing

Warning: copper elimination may cause temporary unpleasant symptoms:

ELIMINATING COPPER

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Big pharm has really worked the drugs well on this one . They have got inside guys heads so well that guys with normal erections are routinely taking drugs,

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Copper Toxicity Theory of ED



There is a theory that age related erectile dysfunction and prostate swelling is caused by accumulation of excessive amounts of copper in the body. If that is true then taking copper supplements would only make things worse. S

And This is exactly the problem I have with you young bucks spouting random advocations/advise ..nothing is EVER that simple. So everyone who has E.D has Copper toxicity ? Got any evidence to back that up?
If you tell someone who has E.D to go deplete their Copper levels; say that person now and in the past has ANEMIA - you could be creating a potentially life-threatening situation simply by recommending what you THINK is harmless advice..and FYI - some men with E.D actually have LOW Serum and hair Copper; yes, some have EXCESS - but NOT ALL!

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2823119/

Results

Cadmium, copper and lead were all significantly or suggestively positively associated with testosterone when modeled individually (p-values = 0.1, 0.03, and 0.07, respectively), findings that are consistent with limited previous human and animal studies. Conversely, molybdenum was associated with reduced testosterone (p-value for trend = 0.001).

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ALSO - it's specifically the interaction of HOMOCYSTEINE and Copper which causes the said constriction in CC strips/tissues and penile arteries. The venoocclusive erection is dampened by excessive Copper but not by low normal levels..the same goes with testosterone; low levels of Copper raise test levels and fertility; whereas excess does the opposite...please, research a bit more before generalizing JD.

I have nothing against you - but this is exactly why we have Guys who AREN'T getting to the root of the problem - because we have the ILLUSION that every single case is the same by unscrupulous marketers and those who stand to profit from basisless 'theories'.

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Big pharm has really worked the drugs well on this one . They have got inside guys heads so well that guys with normal erections are routinely taking drugs,

Yeah, not to mention the amount of money they stand to make given the quarrel over Insurance coverage, policies and pressures.

[closed224 Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2014, Feb 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close closed224]

Also the tying of copper to lead for regulation purposes has created a ton of miss information. So they can proliferate additional regulations requiring chemical interventions in drinking water. Copper is not the culprit it is made out to be. This subject however would take years to be properly fleshed out. Generally copper is good for you. It is a simple test to find out if you are too high in copper levels.

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Also the tying of copper to lead for regulation purposes has created a ton of miss information. So they can proliferate additional regulations requiring chemical interventions in drinking water. Copper is not the culprit it is made out to be. This subject however would take years to be properly fleshed out. Generally copper is good for you. It is a simple test to find out if you are too high in copper levels.

Exactly brother! As with anything - low and high levels can be an issue. Everything can have a risk or benefit.
Copper is just one of those things that has been ever-perpetuated as an ill-causing 'enemy' of human biology. Statistically, there is a common occurrence of Copper toxicity - in URBAN areas and run-down areas . ...but not everyone lives in the City..and it does correlate to drinking water / tap water as well as diet and other factors.

However, on average, For working men at least - I would say that Lead is a more common 'toxicity factor'...but Copper status is related to a number of psychiatric and homeostatic disorders...with high levels being related to BiPolar, Borderline, Violent behavior and such, and low levels being related to Anemia, some** cases of remarkable 'black' depression (but of course, not all) and some adrenal issues.

[WIItard Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close WIItard]

Make sure to eat a little portion of beans or take a very tiny-sub-effective dose of Copper a day; as Zinc cumulatively depletes Copper if taken in excesses over 30 mg but even @25mg - eventually can oppose Copper-related enzymes.
Citrulline probably helped you for a while - but what happened before then, and during , and after? Changes in dose? Timing? Stress?

Nuts are very good to get your minerals and so are shell fish. Depends where you live, I can get fresh oysters, shrimp etc. If you are inland it does become hard to find decent sea food.

You can get all your minerals from food and most importantly the minerals will be absorbed by the body. Pills tend to just get peed out. It's like protein shakes, you need fat to digest the protein so you need to mix the protein shake with whole milk or 2% not skim milk. Skim milk and protein shakes are useless.

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Hiplains, I know you said you used to do PE. Why don't you do some very light jelqing and edging. It seems foe me the more connected I am with my dick, the better it works. Just do 3 days a week. It should help plump you up and increase morning wood and EQ.

[Hiplainsdrifter Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hiplainsdrifter]

Hiplains, I know you said you used to do PE. Why don't you do some very light jelqing and edging. It seems foe me the more connected I am with my dick, the better it works. Just do 3 days a week. It should help plump you up and increase morning wood and EQ.

Yeah, I think I will get back on PE, just not as intense. My dick seems lackluster lately, smaller when flaccid, not getting up as easily. I attribute this basically to anxiety. Performance anxiety.

I'd love to go balls out with PE and grow my dick an inch, but I'm afraid to lose EQ quality. Maybe it would help in long run, but I can't take that chance. My dick seems to get irritated and more desensitized.