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  • #91
    This is somewhat realated in that ft distribution did not follow the old fashioned model.

    https://www.pegym.com/forums/exercis...ent-%2A-2.html

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    • #92
      Seeing increaseing evidence that low test is linked to visceral fat .

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Pegasus View Post
        Seeing increaseing evidence that low test is linked to visceral fat .
        "Testosterone enhances catecholamine-induced lipolysis in vitro and reduces lipoprotein lipase activity and triglyceride uptake in human abdominal adipose tissue in vivo."

        From: Lowered testosterone in male obesity: mechanisms, morbidity and management
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        • #94
          obviously when your androgen's aren't dispersing of the nutrients correctly the capacity to hold fat gets much higher even at lower calorie diets this is common knowledge?

          Why trt is crucial for hypogonadism
          March 2020 13.8 (BPEL) x 10.5 cm (5.4 x 4.1) --- 18 (BPEL) x 13.5 cm (7.1 x 5.3) september 2020
          march 2021 19cm/19.5(BPEL) x 13cm (7.5x5)

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          • #95
            Originally posted by 18x13goalreached View Post
            obviously when your androgen's aren't dispersing of the nutrients correctly the capacity to hold fat gets much higher even at lower calorie diets this is common knowledge?

            Why trt is crucial for hypogonadism
            There are 3 hormones involved in fat distribution as well the "capacity to hol fat " .

            My thought on trt are well known .
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            Last edited by Pegasus; 07-16-2021, 02:02 AM.

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            • #96
              trt is Australia requires stringent imbalances in your natural hormone production its a very healthy and great way to fix a medical issue?

              There are also 5 androgen's

              How many androgens are there?

              The endocrine glands secrete 5 androgens through a similar pathway: testosterone, dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate (DHEAS), dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA), androstenedione, and androstenediol, the latter of which has both androgenic and estrogenic activity

              All of which effect fat gain and loss

              That's not even getting into "hormones" so saying "their are 3" is simply incorrect.



              March 2020 13.8 (BPEL) x 10.5 cm (5.4 x 4.1) --- 18 (BPEL) x 13.5 cm (7.1 x 5.3) september 2020
              march 2021 19cm/19.5(BPEL) x 13cm (7.5x5)

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              • #97
                Originally posted by 18x13goalreached View Post
                trt is Australia requires stringent imbalances in your natural hormone production its a very healthy and great way to fix a medical issue?

                There are also 5 androgen's

                How many androgens are there?

                The endocrine glands secrete 5 androgens through a similar pathway: testosterone, dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate (DHEAS), dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA), androstenedione, and androstenediol, the latter of which has both androgenic and estrogenic activity

                All of which effect fat gain and loss

                That's not even getting into "hormones" so saying "their are 3" is simply incorrect.



                Yet again read the damn thread .

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                • #98
                  I do not regard trt as "very healthy ". I regard it as a last ditch effort that might be done after repeated well thought out natural methods have failed . There is the tendency in some quarters to jump to it as an easy option

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                  • #99
                    7.3 nmol and 170 ngol are my levels its not pleasant bro

                    More than happy to upload my hypgonadism diagnosis from my endocrinologist if you so require
                    March 2020 13.8 (BPEL) x 10.5 cm (5.4 x 4.1) --- 18 (BPEL) x 13.5 cm (7.1 x 5.3) september 2020
                    march 2021 19cm/19.5(BPEL) x 13cm (7.5x5)

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                    • Originally posted by 18x13goalreached View Post
                      7.3 nmol and 170 ngol are my levels its not pleasant bro

                      More than happy to upload my hypgonadism diagnosis from my endocrinologist if you so require
                      As stated trt might be medicaly indicated in which case I have no issue with it . I know low T causes a raft of unpleasant issues quite aside from being involved with visceral fat .

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                      • Finding stuff like this which indicate type of fat eaten has implications.

                        This study evaluated the effects of omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs) on oxidative stress and energy metabolism parameters in the visceral fat of a high-fat-diet induced obesity model. Energy intake, body mass, and visceral fat mass were also evaluated. Male Swiss mice received either a control diet (control group) or a high-fat diet (obese group) for 6 weeks. After this period, the groups were divided into control + saline, control + omega-3, obese + saline, and obese + omega-3, and to these groups 400 mg·(kg body mass)-1·day-1 of fish oil (or saline) was administered orally, for 4 weeks. Energy intake and body mass were monitored throughout the experiment. In the 10th week, the animals were euthanized and the visceral fat (mesenteric) was removed. Treatment with omega-3 PUFAs did not affect energy intake or body mass, but it did reduced visceral fat mass. In visceral fat, omega-3 PUFAs reduced oxidative damage and alleviated changes to the antioxidant defense system and the Krebs cycle. The mitochondrial respiratory chain was neither altered by obesity nor by omega-3 PUFAs. In conclusion, omega-3 PUFAs have beneficial effects on the visceral fat of obese mice because they mitigate changes caused by the consumption of a high-fat diet.




                        Visceral fat accumulation is associated with metabolic disease. It is therefore relevant to study factors that regulate adipose tissue distribution. Recent data shows that overeating saturated fatty acids promotes greater visceral fat storage than overeating unsaturated fatty acids.








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                        • I was reading about this most recent study that was done for diabetes but they found that TSLP-treated mice also decreased their visceral fat mass.

                          Here's the link to the article I read:https://scitechdaily.com/reversing-o...-sweating-fat/

                          Here's the actual study: https://science.sciencemag.org/conte.../6554/eabd2893

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                          • Originally posted by Ashealth View Post
                            I was reading about this most recent study that was done for diabetes but they found that TSLP-treated mice also decreased their visceral fat mass.

                            Here's the link to the article I read:https://scitechdaily.com/reversing-o...-sweating-fat/

                            Here's the actual study: https://science.sciencemag.org/conte.../6554/eabd2893
                            Tslp was increased by genetic manipulation I don't see any use for this in the short to medium term .
                            Thanks for the input though.

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