The Ultimate Burrito vs. The Mad Yogi : A Weight Loss Challenge

[Ultimate Burrito Moderator Member of the Month Oct 2017PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Ultimate Burrito]

UB's Initial Weigh-In: 202.2 lbs @ 7/22/2020 10:30

I'll be weighing myself everyday around 10:30AM.

7/23/2020 weigh-in @ 10:30: 200.4 lbs (-1.8 lbs)

[closed297 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close closed297]

Don't want to tell you how to do your thing but they best time to weigh in is immediately after you wake up and urinate...

It alleviates all the other possible variables like liquids (water,coffee) and obviously food.
It could also be the difference between you winning and losing this bet if your opponent weighs in first thing in the morning.
I encourage you to try it to see if it differs from your current weight.
If you do stick to 10.30 am you will need you opponent to reciprocate the action for a fair competition.

[madyogi Moderator Member of the Month April 2020PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close madyogi]

Don't want to tell you how to do your thing but they best time to weigh in is immediately after you wake up and urinate...

I'd agree with this. This is how I weigh in. I will most likely only weigh in on Monday's going forward, but :

7/23 Weigh In : 198.6 lbs (-1.8 lbs)

We should all keep in mind, weight naturally fluctuates 2-4 lbs from day to day, so gain or loss of 2 lbs or less doesn't represent anything permanent.

[Ultimate Burrito Moderator Member of the Month Oct 2017PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Ultimate Burrito]

Ahh enjoyed another good meal of chicken and broccoli to finish off the leftovers and it was delish! Found an awesome website with healthy meals and decided to try this recipe tomorrow:
https://www.dietdoctor.com/recipes/c...-green-cabbage

Researched and found that I can drink up to 3 Michelob's a day but only had one tonight and there is also no carbs in whiskey! Maybe this isn't going to be so misrealble after all. Tomorrow I'm hoping to dive under 200lbs.

So this is how that meal turned out. The cabbage is amazing.
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[madyogi Moderator Member of the Month April 2020PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close madyogi]

Well. Good luck to both contestants but I must say15 lbs lost in the time allowed in neither healthy or permanent and more than likely a lot of water weight loss. Just saying.

I have to disagree with this somewhat. My goal is technically 15 pounds in 5 weeks. We've only allotted about 4 for this, so maybe it's slightly unrealistic. That's also why I said, if neither gets to 15 lbs, then whoever lost the most wins, just to keep it to a finite time period.

For long-term, large-scale weight loss, 1-2 lbs per week is the most sustainable, healthy thing to do. However, short term bursts to lose 10-20 lbs at up to 4 lbs lost per week are totally manageable for a few weeks at a time, and assuming you don't revert to old habits, should result in permanent loss. The trick is to stick with a healthy diet and lifestyle afterward long enough to establish a new set point. This strategy can be good for those who don't really want to "count calories" or whatever ad infinitum. A series of these bursts at one or two per year for a couple of years can be quite effective.

I did this about a year-and-a-half back and lost about 25 pounds in 6 weeks, successfully moving my set point from 225 to 200. I've been within 5 pounds of 200 now for over a year. Now I want to lose the last 15.

As boring as it is, it really does boil down to calories in vs calories out. Let's look at an example and break down my strategy.

Probably the most controversial part is figuring out an accurate daily metabolic rate to start. I used this tool, just to get a round number, but keep in mind this will vary from source to source, and it's very tough to know for sure. This says I will burn 2,780 calories per day.

So:

Calories / Day = 2,780
Calories / Week = 19,460

Calories / lb = 3,500
Pounds / Week = 3
Deficit / Week = 10,500

Remainder / Week = 8,960

On the face of it, a diet of 1,200 calories a day for 4-6 weeks is not unhealthy, and can result in sustained weight loss, assuming you have a good plan to eat what you need to maintain that new set point going forward. Of course if you return immediately to overconsumption, this will not result in sustainable weight loss, but not because you lost the weight too fast.

My strategy will involve intermittent fasting. Here's a rough breakdown of what will start this coming Sunday:

Sunday : Fast
Monday : 1,000 calories (protein load)
Tuesday : 1,250 calories (low carb/keto)
Wednesday : 1,500 calories (low carb/keto)
Thursday : Fast
Friday : 1,500 calories (low carb/keto)
Saturday : Cheat (call it 3,500 calories)

That's a total caloric load of about 9,000 / week, and again, those are round numbers. Keep that up for 5 weeks, and I'm at 15 pounds lost. Then I can return to essentially eating 2,500 - 3,000 calories a day and exercising regularly to establish a new set point around 185.

That's the plan, anyway.

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I have to disagree with this somewhat. My goal is technically 15 pounds in 5 weeks. We've only allotted about 4 for this, so maybe it's slightly unrealistic. That's also why I said, if neither gets to 15 lbs, then whoever lost the most wins, just to keep it to a finite time period.

For long-term, large-scale weight loss, 1-2 lbs per week is the most sustainable, healthy thing to do. However, short term bursts to lose 10-20 lbs at up to 4 lbs lost per week are totally manageable for a few weeks at a time, and assuming you don't revert to old habits, should result in permanent loss. The trick is to stick with a healthy diet and lifestyle afterward long enough to establish a new set point. This strategy can be good for those who don't really want to "count calories" or whatever ad infinitum. A series of these bursts at one or two per year for a couple of years can be quite effective.

I did this about a year-and-a-half back and lost about 25 pounds in 6 weeks, successfully moving my set point from 225 to 200. I've been within 5 pounds of 200 now for over a year. Now I want to lose the last 15.

As boring as it is, it really does boil down to calories in vs calories out. Let's look at an example and break down my strategy.

Probably the most controversial part is figuring out an accurate daily metabolic rate to start. I used this tool, just to get a round number, but keep in mind this will vary from source to source, and it's very tough to know for sure. This says I will burn 2,780 calories per day.

So:

Calories / Day = 2,780
Calories / Week = 19,460

Calories / lb = 3,500
Pounds / Week = 3
Deficit / Week = 10,500

Remainder / Week = 8,960

On the face of it, a diet of 1,200 calories a day for 4-6 weeks is not unhealthy, and can result in sustained weight loss, assuming you have a good plan to eat what you need to maintain that new set point going forward. Of course if you return immediately to overconsumption, this will not result in sustainable weight loss, but not because you lost the weight too fast.

My strategy will involve intermittent fasting. Here's a rough breakdown of what will start this coming Sunday:

Sunday : Fast
Monday : 1,000 calories (protein load)
Tuesday : 1,200 calories (low carb/keto)
Wednesday : 1,500 calories (med carb load)
Thursday : Fast
Friday : 1,500 calories (med carb/keto)
Saturday : Cheat (call it 3,500 calories)

That's a total caloric load of about 8,700 / week. Keep that up for 5 weeks, and I'm at 15 pounds lost. Then I can return to essentially eating 2,500 - 3,000 calories a day and exercising regularly to establish a new set point around 185.

That's the plan, anyway.

<the Burrito aggressively takes note>

[Party Senior Member Member of the Month August 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Party]

Again good luck guys.

[Johnny D ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Johnny D]

I have to disagree with this somewhat. My goal is technically 15 pounds in 5 weeks. We've only allotted about 4 for this, so maybe it's slightly unrealistic. That's also why I said, if neither gets to 15 lbs, then whoever lost the most wins, just to keep it to a finite time period.

For long-term, large-scale weight loss, 1-2 lbs per week is the most sustainable, healthy thing to do. However, short term bursts to lose 10-20 lbs at up to 4 lbs lost per week are totally manageable for a few weeks at a time, and assuming you don't revert to old habits, should result in permanent loss. The trick is to stick with a healthy diet and lifestyle afterward long enough to establish a new set point. This strategy can be good for those who don't really want to "count calories" or whatever ad infinitum. A series of these bursts at one or two per year for a couple of years can be quite effective.

I did this about a year-and-a-half back and lost about 25 pounds in 6 weeks, successfully moving my set point from 225 to 200. I've been within 5 pounds of 200 now for over a year. Now I want to lose the last 15.

As boring as it is, it really does boil down to calories in vs calories out. Let's look at an example and break down my strategy.

Probably the most controversial part is figuring out an accurate daily metabolic rate to start. I used this tool, just to get a round number, but keep in mind this will vary from source to source, and it's very tough to know for sure. This says I will burn 2,780 calories per day.

So:

Calories / Day = 2,780
Calories / Week = 19,460

Calories / lb = 3,500
Pounds / Week = 3
Deficit / Week = 10,500

Remainder / Week = 8,960

On the face of it, a diet of 1,200 calories a day for 4-6 weeks is not unhealthy, and can result in sustained weight loss, assuming you have a good plan to eat what you need to maintain that new set point going forward. Of course if you return immediately to overconsumption, this will not result in sustainable weight loss, but not because you lost the weight too fast.

My strategy will involve intermittent fasting. Here's a rough breakdown of what will start this coming Sunday:

Sunday : Fast
Monday : 1,000 calories (protein load)
Tuesday : 1,250 calories (low carb/keto)
Wednesday : 1,500 calories (low carb/keto)
Thursday : Fast
Friday : 1,500 calories (low carb/keto)
Saturday : Cheat (call it 3,500 calories)

That's a total caloric load of about 9,000 / week, and again, those are round numbers. Keep that up for 5 weeks, and I'm at 15 pounds lost. Then I can return to essentially eating 2,500 - 3,000 calories a day and exercising regularly to establish a new set point around 185.

That's the plan, anyway.

Just one quick comment on the calories in/out topic. While it's largely true that it's the primary factor, all calories are not equal. 1000 calories of donuts will not satiate, nourish, or metabolize the same as 1000 calories of chicken or salmon. Quality of calories and macro composition does matter. FWIW.

[madyogi Moderator Member of the Month April 2020PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close madyogi]

Just one quick comment on the calories in/out topic. While it's largely true that it's the primary factor, all calories are not equal. 1000 calories of donuts will not satiate, nourish, or metabolize the same as 1000 calories of chicken or salmon. Quality of calories and macro composition does matter. FWIW.

This is true, though I reserve the right to consume shitty calories in whatever macro composition I want on my cheat day.

[JustALilMore Senior Member Member of the Month August 2020 Find all posts View Profile Close JustALilMore]

Thermodynamics is kinda fun

[madyogi Moderator Member of the Month April 2020PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close madyogi]

Thermodynamics is kinda fun

Okay, I'll bite. Thermodynamics is a large field. Are you referring to the thermic effect of specific foods? More generally to the amount of energy required to "burn a calorie"? Other things?

[Party Senior Member Member of the Month August 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Party]

Come work with me in my new sweat shop. I’ve lost 3 pounds in a week and sample product covered in butter. Then do dinner and a few beers.

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Come work with me in my new sweat shop. I’ve lost 3 pounds in a week and sample product covered in butter. Then do dinner and a few beers.

Sounds like thermodynamics to me. I sure do miss going to the sauna at my local gym ...

[JustALilMore Senior Member Member of the Month August 2020 Find all posts View Profile Close JustALilMore]

Okay, I'll bite. Thermodynamics is a large field. Are you referring to the thermic effect of specific foods? More generally to the amount of energy required to "burn a calorie"? Other things?

Pretty much.
Energy cannot be created nor destroyed, but it damn sure can be stored as fat.

And generally, if energy out > energy in, you lose weight.

[closed297 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close closed297]

1 kg a week lost is perfect and sustainable however there is no shame in blasting more than that away especially if you keep it off

Who ever wants to win more look up the "joker diet"