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  • #31
    Originally posted by DemOne View Post
    How many calories do you intake daily and how many do you burn?
    how do i know? Somedays I jog for 20-30mins, some days I lift weights, some days I do skipping 10-20mins, some days I do nothing, I used to play scooer 1-3 hrs 2-3x per week but not atm.

    ATM i eat like 1000-2000kcals per day beacuse I have not been trying to follow a diet and this is what I eat naturally based on my appetite and the fact i am real lazy lol. I dont get hungry and hate cooking.

    So, I have planned out a 3000kcal diet which is 2 shakes=1500kcals and 2 meals=1500kcals.

    I will follow this diet for a few weeks with a weight trainign program and limit my cardio and see what results are per week over 3-4 weeks

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    • #32
      Originally posted by penisma View Post
      how do i know? Somedays I jog for 20-30mins, some days I lift weights, some days I do skipping 10-20mins, some days I do nothing, I used to play scooer 1-3 hrs 2-3x per week but not atm.

      ATM i eat like 1000-2000kcals per day beacuse I have not been trying to follow a diet and this is what I eat naturally based on my appetite and the fact i am real lazy lol. I dont get hungry and hate cooking.

      So, I have planned out a 3000kcal diet which is 2 shakes=1500kcals and 2 meals=1500kcals.

      I will follow this diet for a few weeks with a weight trainign program and limit my cardio and see what results are per week over 3-4 weeks
      You calculate how many calories you burn. There's a ton of known values that you can use to do that. Until you know what you burn, there is no way you can control your intake and expect any results.

      Even though I'm doing intermittent fasting, I know my calorie intake and calories burned. In the past 4 weeks I've lowered my body fat percentage, increased my chest, ab, and arm size, gained 2lbs, upped my endurance, and all the while I've consumed the same amount of calories as I have burned throughout the day, +/- 200 calories a day. My diet isn't even all that strict.

      If you're burning 3500 calories a day but you're only taking in 3000, you're never going to gain weight.


      Take what this calculator says with a grain of salt, but it'll give you a basic idea.
      http://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/cbc
      Remember to include everything. If you don't have a total of 1440 minutes to calculate, you're doing something wrong. Sleep, leisure time, driving, etc, it all counts.

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      • #33
        At end off day though I hate eating and I get acne more I eat. I also hate cooking and making meals.

        So 3000kals is hard work 3500 even harder and 4000 even worse. Beleive me. I was eating 4500kcla 6-7 melas per day once...such a drag.

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        • #34
          You don't have to eat 6-7 meals a day, but like I said, you're not going to get anywhere if you're just throwing your diet and workout at the wall and hoping it sticks.

          Eat all you want, it means nothing if you're not sure of anything else.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by DemOne View Post
            You don't have to eat 6-7 meals a day, but like I said, you're not going to get anywhere if you're just throwing your diet and workout at the wall and hoping it sticks.

            Eat all you want, it means nothing if you're not sure of anything else.
            I know what you mean but still I think 3000kcals is a lot for me right now and will be hard to eat as Im used to 1000-2000.

            So i start there and see what happens. I will gain. I am undereating and underweight right now. Even 2500cals Id gain 2-5lbs within 1-2 weeks.

            As for 6-7 meals I no longer will do that I will have 2 weight gain shakes and 2 big meals and maybe some fruit snakcs

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            • #36
              Unless you know how many calories you burn a day, you can never know if that is enough for you or not. Drinking a weight gain shake doesn't mean you're going to gain weight. It's not some magic drink that forces your body to ignore all biological features and make you weigh more.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by DemOne View Post
                Unless you know how many calories you burn a day, you can never know if that is enough for you or not. Drinking a weight gain shake doesn't mean you're going to gain weight. It's not some magic drink that forces your body to ignore all biological features and make you weigh more.
                obivoulsy.

                its calories. I take wight gain shakes as I hate eating whole food

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                • #38
                  Well, you're laziness is setting you up for nothing but failure in your attempt to gain weight/muscle.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by DemOne View Post
                    Well, you're laziness is setting you up for nothing but failure in your attempt to gain weight/muscle.
                    Im not lazy in working out.

                    Im just lazy in fact I wouldnt even say lazy Im just dont get hungry or have big appetite. I dont like eating a lot of food. Or making or buying it.

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                    • #40
                      I was talking about your laziness to not keep track of things that you're doing with your body.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by DemOne View Post
                        I was talking about your laziness to not keep track of things that you're doing with your body.
                        oh right i did before im a bit random atm.

                        I went 115lbs to 160lbs

                        But I gained a lot of fat.

                        Now I back at 130lbs

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                        • #42
                          don't overdo it, and really stick to it. best advice in all of weightlifting and wellness in a catchy phrase. if you follow any diet, any plan, to the number, you WILL get results, unless that program is just god awful.

                          I use intermittent fasting from time to time to help me cut weight down in fast spurts. I just used it to go from 215 to 209 again, down to 9.5% bodyfat. I've eaten paleo with much sucess, but ultimately it is calories and carb/protien/fat ratios. its all calories, but some are digested differently, used for different things. just understand some basics. Intermittant fasting is in my opinion not a very good option for putting on a lot of muscle fast, but I'm sure you can put some on over time if you use it properly, probably fairly respectable.

                          Everyone has their opinion, its the woodshed effect. I research this alot, and major in this area in college. Its less about whats best, its more about giving it your best.
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