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    would this be effective?

  • #2
    I have been doing body weight exercise for four years with great results. half a year ago I bought a pair of gymnastic rings which I found beneficial and have used since. I recently bought a PWO called Jack3d, containing caffeine and creatine. I have only used it once yet since starting pe due to a lack of time, laziness and bad weather, poor excuses I know. that one time though, OMG holy crap and landmines, that was a good workout...
    I would focus on getting your basic strength up to about 15 pushups and five pullups before you venture into supplements though, and when you do you will get more bang for the buck if you buy gymnastic rings which cost around 50€
    Initial measurements: 16x11 cm
    Current measurements 18x12,5
    Long term goal: 20x16 cm

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    • #3
      Creatine is used in the muscle when you're using your fast twitched and medium muscle fibers anaerobically. So I would say creatine is better for lifting heavy weights for 4-12 reps but I think if you do high paced or plyometric style body weight exercises creatine might help your muscles get the energy boost to get a few more reps or seconds out. Creatine doesn't actually factor in building the muscle but fueling it during an anaerobic workout to bust out more reps to enhance the workout. I personally wouldn't recommend it. Just go natural and eat a healthy high protein high vegetable diet and avoid refined carbs.. try and keep them to long-grain brown rice, fruit, seeds, nuts, some legumes, and oats. Wheat bread isn't terrible but certainly avoid white bread, pastries, sugars, syrups, corn syrup etc.. a little honey here and there isn't terrrible in my opinion. If I had the time to be on a calculated diet right now I would eat 40% protein 35% fat and 25% carbs for 2100 calories and lots of vegetables. I'd try to recommend finding meats without nitrates, hormones, or antiobiotics in them and although expensive grass fed is the best but pretty hard to find especially for eggs and chicken and turkey. I think grass fed beef and buffalo taste excellent. Hope this helps. If you wanna do creatine drink a ton of water don't take any more than the dosage(i'd take less) and try and go heavy so maybe buy a weighted vest. I've had solid results with creatine in the past. Added 45 lbs to my 3x10 bench press in months but I was also 18 at the time.
      Jan 1 2016: 6.6" BPEL 4.4" MSEG

      Current: 6.6" BPEL 4.5" MSEG

      Goal for Jan 1 2017: 7" BPEL 5.1" MSEG

      Goal for Jan 1 2018: 7.3" BPEL 5.3" MSEG

      Ultimate Goal: 7.5" BPEL 5.5" MSEG

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      • #4
        I got the creatine and have been doing a pretty intense body weight workout with it. I searched for them online and found this one.

        Warm-up
        1. Glute Bridges, 3×15
        2. Tin Men’s, 1 min
        3. Piriformis Stretch, 2×5 each leg
        Workout
        1A) Beyond the Range Push-ups, 3×20
        1B) Bulgarian Split Squats, 3×10 each leg
        2A) Pull-ups, 3×8
        2B) Walk Walkouts, 2x 1 min (AMAP*, As Many As Possible)

        I dont really care about how strong my muscles get, I just walk to look bigger, which is what creatine helps with.

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        • #5
          Yeah but that's not really the idea of using creatine. Plus you can't really get big without weights. You'll be strong and lean but not big. You should at least invest in a 20 to 25 lb weighted vest. People will always talk about Hershell Walker but he got big because he had the genetics to do so easily.. most people need to lift heavy for no longer than 45 minutes a workout hitting each muscle group once a week. As in Chest Day, Back and Bicep Day, Legs day, Shoulders and Triceps Day, and Abs and Lower Back aka Core Day. You'll get a little bigger but there is only so much potential to gain mass with body weight exercises... A weighted vest would increase that potential a little bit. But the people on the advertisements for the perfect pushup and the rack.. etc etc.. didn't get that big on body weight exercises..all of them lift weights and many are probably on PEDs or have superior genetics for building large lean muscles.
          Jan 1 2016: 6.6" BPEL 4.4" MSEG

          Current: 6.6" BPEL 4.5" MSEG

          Goal for Jan 1 2017: 7" BPEL 5.1" MSEG

          Goal for Jan 1 2018: 7.3" BPEL 5.3" MSEG

          Ultimate Goal: 7.5" BPEL 5.5" MSEG

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          • #6
            Dont have the time/money to go to the gym.

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            • #7
              hmmm...

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              • #8
                You can buy cheap weights and benches on craigslist most likely. I'd recommend dis-infecting.
                Jan 1 2016: 6.6" BPEL 4.4" MSEG

                Current: 6.6" BPEL 4.5" MSEG

                Goal for Jan 1 2017: 7" BPEL 5.1" MSEG

                Goal for Jan 1 2018: 7.3" BPEL 5.3" MSEG

                Ultimate Goal: 7.5" BPEL 5.5" MSEG

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                • #9
                  look at 'Hannibal for King', Juice, and Beastmode/Lord Vital...

                  Hannibal For King feat LAKEY DA KIDD.mp4 - YouTube

                  the way Hannibal does bodyweight is the way to do it; slow controlled movements with the bodyweight far away from the grip if possible, if something is too easy find a way to make it harder, if you cant afford a weighted vest, buy some gymnastic rings which makes things a ton harder. I'm looking into using a weight vest every third workout and rotating rings/no rings every workout meaning:
                  Rings
                  no rings
                  rings vest
                  no rings
                  rings
                  no rings vest
                  repeat.

                  I used to work out bodyweight every third day with sprinting some day in between. Now the exercising has taken a back seat for the sake of PE. But, in two months I will be at home all day every day of the week so then I will start again, and hell I have a good feeling about that.

                  side-note, I always do obliques first of the exercises, then mix it in wile doing everything else and finish the session with abs. works well for strength, muscle symmetry and look.

                  Going to the gym only pays off if you can put aside 10h+ every week for getting to the gym, work out, get home, and shower (not necessarily in that order) and have extra cash to boot (this only includes resistance training, without cardio). bodyweight takes 2h 20 min for me in total, every week (without separate cardio) and it works as a semi cardio workout at the same time. Set your goals, do the research on how to reach them, do the math, is it worth it? no? don't. yes? do it and don't deviate from the schedule unless it means you put yourself ahead of others. 'nuff said!
                  Initial measurements: 16x11 cm
                  Current measurements 18x12,5
                  Long term goal: 20x16 cm

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                  • #10
                    That dude is super impressive and a freak but he needs to work his legs.. they're toothpicks
                    Jan 1 2016: 6.6" BPEL 4.4" MSEG

                    Current: 6.6" BPEL 4.5" MSEG

                    Goal for Jan 1 2017: 7" BPEL 5.1" MSEG

                    Goal for Jan 1 2018: 7.3" BPEL 5.3" MSEG

                    Ultimate Goal: 7.5" BPEL 5.5" MSEG

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                    • #11
                      Yep, thats why I recommend adding sprints, great for the knees, more effective than long distance, raises HGH levels in the body, gives you proportional legs and it is the way nature meant it to be had a big problem with my right knee, started sprinting, disappeared like an evil spirit at an exorcism, stopped, came back a month later, started again disappeared. coincidence? hell no. I do this in a steep uphill to add intensity and spare the knees even more. Resting bpm=45-50, not bad results from less than half an hours running every third day...

                      What I did to bulk up fast when I started was to;
                      take cold showers ONLY (when possible of course)
                      sprint every third day, the day after resistance training
                      eat more over all (I would now change this to increasing animalistic fat and more vegetables/fruits)
                      drink green tea at least once a day
                      SLEEP, very important. Personally I Ideally sleep for 8-9h, although this is highly personal and varies with age, diet and stress on body and mind.
                      and lastly to have a high intensity during workouts, see it as a mini cardio session which gets you better oxygenation where you want it. stay around 80-110 bpm (estimated number). this is easier for me when I am well hydrated, listen to music and work out alone.

                      If something hurts, you probably have bad posture, and posture is the most important thing in your workout. yep no.1.
                      Long Dong Silver
                      Senior Member
                      Last edited by Long Dong Silver; 05-14-2012, 12:46 PM. Reason: added sleep
                      Initial measurements: 16x11 cm
                      Current measurements 18x12,5
                      Long term goal: 20x16 cm

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Long Dong Silver View Post
                        Yep, thats why I recommend adding sprints, great for the knees, more effective than long distance, raises HGH levels in the body, gives you proportional legs and it is the way nature meant it to be had a big problem with my right knee, started sprinting, disappeared like an evil spirit at an exorcism, stopped, came back a month later, started again disappeared. coincidence? hell no. I do this in a steep uphill to add intensity and spare the knees even more. Resting bpm=45-50, not bad results from less than half an hours running every third day...

                        What I did to bulk up fast when I started was to;
                        take cold showers ONLY (when possible of course)
                        sprint every third day, the day after resistance training
                        eat more over all (I would now change this to increasing animalistic fat and more vegetables/fruits)
                        drink green tea at least once a day
                        and lastly to have a high intensity during workouts, see it as a mini cardio session which gets you better oxygenation where you want it. stay around 80-110 bpm (estimated number). this is easier for me when I am well hydrated, listen to music and work out alone.

                        If something hurts, you probably have bad posture, and posture is the most important thing in your workout. yep no.1.
                        Sprints help shed fat too.. but why cold showers? Makes no sense to me.
                        Jan 1 2016: 6.6" BPEL 4.4" MSEG

                        Current: 6.6" BPEL 4.5" MSEG

                        Goal for Jan 1 2017: 7" BPEL 5.1" MSEG

                        Goal for Jan 1 2018: 7.3" BPEL 5.3" MSEG

                        Ultimate Goal: 7.5" BPEL 5.5" MSEG

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mr.growmymeat View Post
                          Sprints help shed fat too.. but why cold showers? Makes no sense to me.
                          I think I heard one time that cold showers(or cold tubs for athletes) open up the blood vessels which allow for faster recovery. That would be my guess.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by needhelp View Post
                            I think I heard one time that cold showers(or cold tubs for athletes) open up the blood vessels which allow for faster recovery. That would be my guess.
                            That doesn't make sense to me.. when the body feels cold it sends the majority of blood to the major organs to preserve them rather than the exterior. I'm no super science buff though.. I think warm water increases blood flow... cold decreases blood flow and fluid build-up and thats why cold and elevation are combined to reduce swelling. Can't say I know for sure though.
                            Jan 1 2016: 6.6" BPEL 4.4" MSEG

                            Current: 6.6" BPEL 4.5" MSEG

                            Goal for Jan 1 2017: 7" BPEL 5.1" MSEG

                            Goal for Jan 1 2018: 7.3" BPEL 5.3" MSEG

                            Ultimate Goal: 7.5" BPEL 5.5" MSEG

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                            • #15
                              I may be wrong on the opening up of the blood vessels, but I know it speeds up recovery to do it after a workout.

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