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    Last night a friend of mine disclosed that she has herpes, I've never known anyone who had it so it became my curiosity of the day. I was a little shocked by what I thought I knew and what the truth really is, thought it might be important to share my findings with the community.

    For those with short attention spans let me get your attention so you'll continue reading - condoms do not prevent the spread of this disease (and I don't mean because they sometimes break, I mean even with proper use). Think you're safe? Think again. Keep reading.

    Let me add first that I didn't keep track of my sources so I'm not citing them here, google something if you don't believe it. I did use only reputable sites and only include information that I found in multiple locations.

    Its common knowledge and I think that everyone knows there's two types of herpes virus, oral (type 1) and genital (type 2). What most people don't know is this arrangement is the typical condition, but either type can reside at either location (though oral type 2 is very rare). Herpes virus actually resides and lies dormant on the nerve cells, type 1 typically takes up residence near the ears, type 2 by the base of the spine (most researchers believe this is because of the prevalence of type 1 and that it is spread by the mouth when children, so it takes up residence in the upper location thus not giving type 2 a chance to take that spot). At times it will work it's way to the skin, preferring mucosal membranes of the lips, genitals, anus and sometimes the eyes. Though the types typically reside in their primary location they have no problem living in the other. Genital type 1 herpes is becoming much more widespread in the past decades (the type that gave you cold sores on your lips when you were a kid can be transmitted to genitals on someone else).

    I think it's also common knowledge that infection can occur when there's no symptoms at all (during a period which is known as virus shedding). The body does provide some resistance to one type if antibodies are present for the other type. Estimates vary but it is believed that 70-90% of people have type 1 oral herpes antibodies (and the virus). The numbers for type 2 are also very high, 1/4 women and 1/5 men is the most commonly cited number, many other studies show over 40% of people past the age of 40 have it (percentages increase with age and opportunity for exposure). The scary statistic that keeps being bounced around is that 80% of people that have it don't know it because they never showed or recognized symptoms and were never tested. In case you don't know the virus is spread by skin to skin contact, not through fluid exchange, so even without penetration it can be passed. Oral, genital and anal contact is most common for spreading (and sores don't have to be present).

    So how to prevent it? Most articles cite that unprotected sex with a female who is infected will result in a 4% chance per year of regular contact to becoming infected (higher for woman with infected male). Taking daily medication will halve that chance. Using a condom will also only halve that chance (same with dental damns and other such barriers). (Another interesting fact learned is that condoms also don't do much better with HPV prevention, so much for "safe sex").

    So do the math. Assuming 150x a year for "regular contact" (a little high perhaps) and 4% chance of contracting means for each single encounter you have a 1 in 38 chance of getting it, use a condom and that only goes to 1 in 76. Remember that most people don't even know they have it. Be careful out there.
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    I'm confused.. you said it's a 4% chance of contracting it per year of regular contact but then you said it's a 4% chance each time you have regular contact.. which one is correct?

    Either way, thanks for the info :-)
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    • #3
      STD's is why I will never have a great sex life, till I find a woman that I really really trust anyways. I love sex/intimacy more than anything, but damn it man, it's just too dangerous in my mind, which really sucks! I just don't understand how people can just go out and have sex freely without the concern of contracting an STD, or even, STD's. Kinda makes me ill thinking about it.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by BTBrian View Post
        I'm confused.. you said it's a 4% chance of contracting it per year of regular contact but then you said it's a 4% chance each time you have regular contact.. which one is correct?

        Either way, thanks for the info :-)
        To answer my question, the odds of getting herpes during unprotected sex when the herpes are not showing is 1/5000

        http://www.stdriskcalculator.com/index.php/calculator

        Not sure how accurate it is but it seems about right to me.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by BTBrian View Post
          To answer my question, the odds of getting herpes during unprotected sex when the herpes are not showing is 1/5000

          Calculator - STD Risk Calculator

          Not sure how accurate it is but it seems about right to me.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jay1983 View Post
            Eh? You have got to be kitten me right meow!
            Actually, using the same number as TehDBare used (and possibly the same source?) it says the odds are 1/10,000 or 0.0001% of contracting herpes when having sex with someone who isn't currently having an active outbreak

            Herpes Virus Facts 101 - How Herpes can be Spread (HSV transmission)

            Actually, I'm not sure about their math because it says a 4% chance per year of contracting herpes, which comes to o.ooo1% odds every night. This doesn't seem to say anything about the odds during a sexual encounter though. Hmmm
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            • #7
              Originally posted by BTBrian View Post
              Actually, using the same number as TehDBare used (and possibly the same source?) it says the odds are 1/10,000 or 0.0001% of contracting herpes when having sex with someone who isn't currently having an active outbreak

              Herpes Virus Facts 101 - How Herpes can be Spread (HSV transmission)

              Actually, I'm not sure about their math because it says a 4% chance per year of contracting herpes, which comes to o.ooo1% odds every night. This doesn't seem to say anything about the odds during a sexual encounter though. Hmmm
              I assumed, outbreak or not, if a person has genital herpes and you have unprotected sex with them, then boom you got it too. But to be able to catch the virus WITH a condom is even more bizarre. What's next? Condoms are only a birth control method and don't actually protect one against STD's?? Crazy!
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jay1983 View Post
                I assumed, outbreak or not, if a person has genital herpes and you have unprotected sex with them, then boom you got it too. But to be able to catch the virus WITH a condom is even more bizarre. What's next? Condoms are only a birth control method and don't actually protect one against STD's?? Crazy!
                The reason you can get it with a condom on is because the virus isn't necessarily isolated to the penis/labia, it can be on the skin around the are as well (which a condom doesn't cover).
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BTBrian View Post
                  The reason you can get it with a condom on is because the virus isn't necessarily isolated to the penis/labia, it can be on the skin around the are as well (which a condom doesn't cover).
                  Well I guess I'll be a virgin again before it's all said and done lol back to the drawing board!
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TehDBare View Post
                    Last night a friend of mine disclosed that she has herpes, I've never known anyone who had it so it became my curiosity of the day. I was a little shocked by what I thought I knew and what the truth really is, thought it might be important to share my findings with the community.

                    For those with short attention spans let me get your attention so you'll continue reading - condoms do not prevent the spread of this disease (and I don't mean because they sometimes break, I mean even with proper use). Think you're safe? Think again. Keep reading.

                    Let me add first that I didn't keep track of my sources so I'm not citing them here, google something if you don't believe it. I did use only reputable sites and only include information that I found in multiple locations.

                    Its common knowledge and I think that everyone knows there's two types of herpes virus, oral (type 1) and genital (type 2). What most people don't know is this arrangement is the typical condition, but either type can reside at either location (though oral type 2 is very rare). Herpes virus actually resides and lies dormant on the nerve cells, type 1 typically takes up residence near the ears, type 2 by the base of the spine (most researchers believe this is because of the prevalence of type 1 and that it is spread by the mouth when children, so it takes up residence in the upper location thus not giving type 2 a chance to take that spot). At times it will work it's way to the skin, preferring mucosal membranes of the lips, genitals, anus and sometimes the eyes. Though the types typically reside in their primary location they have no problem living in the other. Genital type 1 herpes is becoming much more widespread in the past decades (the type that gave you cold sores on your lips when you were a kid can be transmitted to genitals on someone else).

                    I think it's also common knowledge that infection can occur when there's no symptoms at all (during a period which is known as virus shedding). The body does provide some resistance to one type if antibodies are present for the other type. Estimates vary but it is believed that 70-90% of people have type 1 oral herpes antibodies (and the virus). The numbers for type 2 are also very high, 1/4 women and 1/5 men is the most commonly cited number, many other studies show over 40% of people past the age of 40 have it (percentages increase with age and opportunity for exposure). The scary statistic that keeps being bounced around is that 80% of people that have it don't know it because they never showed or recognized symptoms and were never tested. In case you don't know the virus is spread by skin to skin contact, not through fluid exchange, so even without penetration it can be passed. Oral, genital and anal contact is most common for spreading (and sores don't have to be present).

                    So how to prevent it? Most articles cite that unprotected sex with a female who is infected will result in a 4% chance per year of regular contact to becoming infected (higher for woman with infected male). Taking daily medication will halve that chance. Using a condom will also only halve that chance (same with dental damns and other such barriers). (Another interesting fact learned is that condoms also don't do much better with HPV prevention, so much for "safe sex").

                    So do the math. Assuming 150x a year for "regular contact" (a little high perhaps) and 4% chance of contracting means for each single encounter you have a 1 in 38 chance of getting it, use a condom and that only goes to 1 in 76. Remember that most people don't even know they have it. Be careful out there.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SEXCREATURE View Post
                        Tell your friend about this.It is known to kill the herpes virus forever.Microhydrin
                        Then how come herpes is still known as treatable, yet not curable?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Jay1983 View Post
                          Then how come herpes is still known as treatable, yet not curable?
                          because Big Pharma makes loads of money off herpes pills.
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                          • #14
                            same thing for cancer too.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWT8lNhn8Co

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