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  • #16
    Last thing: the warm compress how long do I have to keep them?
    Also, can I go back to the gym or better not? Thanks again

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    • #17
      20 minutes. Do everything normal,have fun but no touchy the pee pee.
      The world's still a toy if you just stay a boy!

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      • #18
        Never heard of anyone inducing bleeding from the nose and mouth due to overpumping!

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        • #19
          The question of blood loss from the nose and mouth is a mystery, but it could be a pulmonary embolism caused by the vacuum pump, so much so that in the nose and mouth they have not found any broken capillary! So where did this blood come from? In any case it has stopped. But problems with the penis and erections persist. Tomorrow I have a visit to the specialist urologist, and in the following days I do some targeted exams. That the gods send me good! I keep you updated.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Kitsunebi88 View Post
            Hello everyone, I am 27 years old and I think I have done serious damage to my penis. In trying to correct a curvature of the dorsal penis (not from IPP, in itself it was not problematic but I wanted more straight), I was recommended online a therapy with the Vacuum Device, 10 minutes continuous twice a day morning and evening for 2 months by a doctor! Trusting I'm wretched I did this "therapy" using this vacuum pump, without a pressure gauge. Initially I had really hard erections and maybe I got carried away for the results obtained in the sense that I pumped maybe too much, I arrived at the very top where I endured (MAX) I used it 10 minutes twice a day. About a month has passed since I stopped. The skin of my penis remained very dark, dry, I lost sensitivity and thinned and with the veins turned purple even on the testicles as if they had been thrombosed. What's worse is that I no longer maintain erection! Usually at night or in the morning I was always in maximum erection, even for a long time, now not anymore. I no longer have spontaneous erections and if I try to have them manually I do not keep them anymore in a few seconds, especially in some positions such as standing. That's not all, in the last days the penis has lost noticeable sensitivity and the penis and in particular the testicles are completely cold ice, and known that only by sitting tend to heaters while if they are lying or pegs it's all completely cold, but even icy the legs are cold and have never been. It's really worrying about the situation!

            Last week, for four days, blood came out of my mouth and nose inexplicably. The blood did not understand where it came from, but in any case it stopped. I thought it was an embolism caused by the Vacuum. A few days before I had taken the plane for the first time and perhaps the pressurisation made me break out something. I went to the emergency room ...

            "REFERENCES EPISODES OF EPISTAXIS-OUTPUTS OF PENILE TRAUMATISM WITH VACUUM DEVICE (EMAKING EXTRAVASATION UNDER CUTANEOUS)

            THERAPY MEASURES:
            WE RECOMMEND THE EXECUTION OF VISIT OR AND UROLOGY "

            The otolaryngologist found nothing to me, which suggests that the blood is due to the Vaccum. The emergency room has indeed written "EPISTAXIS-OUTPUTS OF PENILE TRAUMATISM WITH VACUUM DEVICE"

            Then I visited the urologist and without any examination (he just looked at me and touched me!) This is what:

            "History: GENITAL TRAUMA FROM VACUUM

            Objective Exam: POSSIBLE OUTCOMES OF AN ASPIRATION TOO NEGATIVE WITH THE VACUUM. IT HAS NO PLASTER AND NO EVIDENCE OF RECURVATUM (AT LEAST IN ABSENCE OF ERECTION).

            Recommended therapy: AT THE MOMENT YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO PRESCRIBE A SPECIFIC THERAPY FOR THE CASE IN QUESTION, AS IT COMES TO THE COLOR OF THE PENIS (IT HAS SURFACED AS WELL AS A SURFACE HEMORRAGIC SUFFERING) DO NOT KNOW TO WAIT A FEW TIME FOR A NATURAL RETURN OR USE OF TOPICS, BUT HAVING THE PATIENT ALREADY HAD A BAD EXPERIENCE WITH LOCAL THERAPIES, DO NOT DO NOTHING. FOR ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION, SUBMITTED, AND 'EVIDENT A REMARKABLE PSYCHOGENIC COMPONENT (THE PATIENT APPEARED VERY CONCERNED), COULD BEGIN A "REHABILITATION" THERAPY WITH OF THE LOW DOSAGE OF DI SILER (FOR EXAMPLE: 25 MG TO BE USED IN MOUTH EVERY 2 - 3 DAYS FOR 2 MONTHS). )

            Other indications: REVEALING THE LOCAL SITUATION AFTER THE SUMMER FOR ITSELF DIAGNOSTIC EXAMINATIONS, TO EVALUATE AN EVENT "VASCULAR DAMAGE" TO OBJECTIVITY, AT THE MOMENT, NOT PRESENT, REMEMBER THAT THEY ARE, IN ANY CASE, INVASIVE EXAMINATIONS, WHICH CAN, EVEN, HAVE ADDITIONAL COLLATERAL EFFECTS "

            I am not convinced of this diagnosis. For the dark skin, not even an ointment has given me anything, and the penis is black. From the beginning of May it has not been minimally reabsorbed, why? What could I put? And as far as erection is concerned, I did not keep them and they just miss the end of the Vacuum treatment and I was not anxious at all. If anything, I became anxious just because I had not been there for a month and I was frightened by what was strange for me since I had them day and night. Suddenly I do not see any more erections and the thing is certainly not psychological but physical. Hurry up the conclusion.

            I still do not have more spontaneous erections at night and morning from days and days, just zero and manually I do not keep them anymore. The penis and the testicles are totally cold, as if the circulation had been compromised. The vascular damage until proven otherwise I was not excluded, because I was not done ANY objective examination (I just touched and looked at what I can do alone), not only, they did not have the machine (dynamic Ecocolordopler ) even in the province and says it is invasive and can do other damage. I would like to understand why I have no more erections since I stopped the Vacuum and by the end of May I present the totally cold penis that is not normal datp which is also very hot. It is not a psychological but a physical problem. Maybe it's only temporary? But cabbage is a month! Is it possible that I do not improve the situation at all?

            I am extremely worried and the more time passes, the more I am convinced that I have done irreversible damage to my penis. How likely are there to have done vascular damage or corpora cavernosa?

            I am afraid that I have done serious damage and now I risk a prosthesis to the penis ...

            I do not understand why I continue to have the penis and also the testicles (but also the legs) are completely frozen, and can not be the adrenaline because I have experienced that if I sit a few minutes and warm up (legs but not), while from lying down or settle it all becomes ice cream in an absurd way and at night I am an icicle and considering that we are in summer and it is very hot and I'm also training it is rather strange not to say abnormal. It's not normal! Situation is making me scare and drive me crazy. It 'obvious that the vacuum has brought me problems at the blood level I am convinced and now hope has completely abandoned me.

            Rereading then the sheet of first aid that episode of blood that came out for four days from the nose and mouth inexplicably they attributed it right to the vacuum "EPISTAXIS-OUTPUTS OF PENILE TRAUMATISM WITH VACUUM DEVICE" so that the otolaryngologist who visited me in the nose and he found nothing in his mouth which makes him think very badly.

            In summary:

            1) Black skin, thinned, rough and little sensitivity.
            2) Total loss of spontaneous erections.
            3) I do not maintain a manual erection.
            4) Ieaculation seems to slow down.
            5) Violet veins on testicles.
            6) Cold penis and testicles.

            Has anyone had problems like me?
            I think I'm really fucked
            I think your black skin due to pumping is just minor injury in your skin only
            And
            If you had injury it will be like penile friction and that cause pyroniy disease which easy to urologist to diagnostic that injury
            I had theory of what happen to over pumping people and why they had ED
            Their bodies send over stimulation signals and pain signals to brain
            Sympathetic nervous system response by fight/flight defence by clinch penile cc
            Numbness nerves
            Stop spontiouse and morning erections. To reset your system
            But
            Due to sadness and the felling to test the peins keeping sending this signals and feed your sympathetic nervous system and so on
            It is wheel of doom that chain you for ever and only researcher who near from this concept is "overactive cc new novel for erectile dysfunction"
            But my problem is I'm not sure is that penile cell damage or just hard flaccid
            I don’t know

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            • #21
              Did you drink alote of alcohol drinks?
              If yes may alcohol thining your small capillaries

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              • #22
                I made a visit yesterday from the urolee specialist and this is what:

                "Absence of nocturnal erections and difficulty in maintaining the diurnal ones after using the vacum device,

                Objective examination: testis of normal consistency with bilateral varicocele at the level of both spermatic fungi. Modestly edematous penile skin with venous hyperemia and dilated veins For this skin condition it is preferred to perform simple and non-dynamic doppler of the cavernous bodies. Penile ecodoppler Normal morphology of the cavernous bodies and the tunica albuginea. The systolic flow at the level of the two dorsal and cavernous arteries was excellent, being respectively 32 cm / sec (vn> 15cm / sec)

                Clinical clinical conclusions: Results of vacum device (used for almost two months, 10 minutes, twice a day)

                We recommend: Dosage of the following hormones:
                LH, FSH, Prolactin, Free Testosterone, 17 beta estradiol.

                - Venoruton 1 cps hours 8 - 14 - 20 A pack -
                - Reparil gel 1 application at 15 days
                - Dynamic Doppler after skin normalization.
                - New autograph of the penis in erection in three projections"

                This is how much, but attention only the "dynamic Doppler" will give the correct diagnosis confirming or not of the "damages". When at the epistaxis he said that it could be due to the Vacuum. The Doctor told me that I am not the first to have problems with the penis pumps and that many have had serious problems and that he has seen hundreds of them and strongly discourages their use!

                That said, I will have to wait for the next visit in 15 days for the dynamic Doppler ecocolor and have a certain diagnosis. I add that my penis has slightly shortened and in fact my doctor has asked for pictures for a comparison.

                Will update.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Kitsunebi88 View Post
                  I made a visit yesterday from the urolee specialist and this is what:

                  "Absence of nocturnal erections and difficulty in maintaining the diurnal ones after using the vacum device,

                  Objective examination: testis of normal consistency with bilateral varicocele at the level of both spermatic fungi. Modestly edematous penile skin with venous hyperemia and dilated veins For this skin condition it is preferred to perform simple and non-dynamic doppler of the cavernous bodies. Penile ecodoppler Normal morphology of the cavernous bodies and the tunica albuginea. The systolic flow at the level of the two dorsal and cavernous arteries was excellent, being respectively 32 cm / sec (vn> 15cm / sec)

                  Clinical clinical conclusions: Results of vacum device (used for almost two months, 10 minutes, twice a day)

                  We recommend: Dosage of the following hormones:
                  LH, FSH, Prolactin, Free Testosterone, 17 beta estradiol.

                  - Venoruton 1 cps hours 8 - 14 - 20 A pack -
                  - Reparil gel 1 application at 15 days
                  - Dynamic Doppler after skin normalization.
                  - New autograph of the penis in erection in three projections"

                  This is how much, but attention only the "dynamic Doppler" will give the correct diagnosis confirming or not of the "damages". When at the epistaxis he said that it could be due to the Vacuum. The Doctor told me that I am not the first to have problems with the penis pumps and that many have had serious problems and that he has seen hundreds of them and strongly discourages their use!

                  That said, I will have to wait for the next visit in 15 days for the dynamic Doppler ecocolor and have a certain diagnosis. I add that my penis has slightly shortened and in fact my doctor has asked for pictures for a comparison.

                  Will update.
                  Did your penile non dynamic doppler indicate any abnormal or injury?

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                  • #24
                    No. I have to do the dynamic dopler now. However, I have noticed that my penis is shorter (both in a flaccid and erect state, which is not rigid and does not hold) and even thinner, almost flat, a disaster!

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Kitsunebi88 View Post
                      No. I have to do the dynamic dopler now. However, I have noticed that my penis is shorter (both in a flaccid and erect state, which is not rigid and does not hold) and even thinner, almost flat, a disaster!
                      Do you mean your pains hard in flaccid state?
                      And I said your(non-dynamic) doppler didn't indicate any damage or abnormal.

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                      • #26
                        Flaccid and erect

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                        • #27
                          "Disadvantage #1: Thinning of the Penis

                          Too much friction as well as pressure to the penis can make it thin. The person involved may also experience decreased durations of erections."
                          (6 of the Deadly Disadvantages of Penis Pumping)

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Kitsunebi88 View Post
                            Flaccid and erect
                            Do you had hard flaccid specially when you stand up?

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                            • #29
                              Yes

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Kitsunebi88 View Post
                                Yes
                                I had your problem due to the same reason since 2012
                                And I had this lasting problem become I test mine every day. Best way they said that I must nofap until I restore my EQ

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