fear from penile scarring after jelqing, please help

[UKGuy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close UKGuy]

In truth I think that the fact you are a virgin in your mid-twenties has given you some mistaken ideas about what sex is supposed to be like.

I agree and I admit I am a man who is totally lacking in real life experience in terms of sexual relationships etc. I think I can be somewhat niave in this area and I probably watched too much pornography through out my teenage years and based a lot of how sexual encounters are and what to expect based on porn. For example I assumed most men could stay hard and erect for say at least 5 minutes without any stimulation at all. I am pretty sure I could easily stay hard without touching my penis before I injured it. This is most notable when I get a morning erection in that I wake up with quite a hard erection (although the glands are barely engorged) but it will die the instant I get up or move this should not happen and infact the erection is supposed to be raging more so in the morning.

In my book, being impotent involves not being able to get hard enough for intercourse -- NOT just needing stimulation to stay hard.

Well this is tricky and not so straight forward to explain because I can get hard that is my shaft but the glands are soft and remain soft even with a lot of stimulation. I can get hard with stimulation however there are a lot of times I just can't get a good enough erection for masturbation (so obviously It would not be hard enough for penetration) and this is even with days with no masturbating or ejaculation either. 9 times out of 10 I will loose my erection instantly when getting erect I mean the instant I get hard it will start to go down. The glands get hardly any fill at all. My erection has poor lasting ability. I have often wondered if I have some scarred penile tissue because I have noticed that my flacid penis feels a bit tougher and hard when limp I can't really stretch it out like I could before.

[londonlad Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close londonlad]

Hi UK Guy i was reading your posts. Now I'm 27 and a few years ago i got into jelqing, at first it was great! i would wake up with massive hard on's! brillant! i followed a light regime, a less is more if you will. howver after a while i noticed i was no longer getting hard in the mornings, then after a while i noticed i had real trouble keeping erections! they'd get hard then just slump back down again unless constant stimulation was given and in fairness that was stll a losing battle! so I stopped jelqing . A few months later i was in scotland visting my super hot friend I'd wanted to get it on with her for years! not just hot but smart and funny! anyway skipping the long story we endd up in bed together and what happened i couldnt get bloody hard! now ive had sex plently of times and this was a direct result of PE this self inflicted impotence I still managed to cum but it was lifeless. i felt like such an mug, i'd ruined my penis!!!.......wait ive got some good news 6 months later....after using hot raps, and kegals and most importantly time my cock is back to normal! ohhh rapture oh joy.....you know what dumbest thing of all is before i started reading your post i was almost tempted to start jelqing again.. lol

i think your corrrect in the thinking my jelqing might work for some and not for others, some peoples bodies simply react differently. but try not to worry it will take at least a year to fix itself.

[GTO Retired ModeratorPEGym EditorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close GTO]

The body is an amazing machine and has some very amazing self-healing abilities. Give it some time and I think you'll be back into the game. Wishing you well.

[Pete28 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Pete28]

The body is an amazing machine and has some very amazing self-healing abilities. Give it some time and I think you'll be back into the game. Wishing you well.

Yeah, but not with venous leackage and corporal scarring ...

I've been kegeling for six months, it doesn't do jack sxxt. My uro also told me kegels do not reverse venous leackage, it's just a fairytale.

[NP97 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close NP97]

You never mentioned the kegels before.... They should help quite a bit, unless you're doing them sporadically or doing only a few.

[maelsukr Retired ModeratorPEGym EditorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close maelsukr]

Yeah, but not with venous leackage and corporal scarring ...

I've been kegeling for six months, it doesn't do jack sxxt. My uro also told me kegels do not reverse venous leackage, it's just a fairytale.

Well Pete , You could just stop TRYING to get your pecker to do something it is telling you it doesn't want to do right now !!
Just pay attention to him ! He knows what he needs ! And that is being left alone so he can heal .
Sorry to be blunt , but , your clue phone is ringing . Please answer it !!
mael out !!!

[Pirate Retired AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Pirate]

Hi UK Guy i was reading your posts. Now I'm 27 and a few years ago i got into jelqing, at first it was great! i would wake up with massive hard on's! brillant! i followed a light regime, a less is more if you will. howver after a while i noticed i was no longer getting hard in the mornings, then after a while i noticed i had real trouble keeping erections! they'd get hard then just slump back down again unless constant stimulation was given and in fairness that was stll a losing battle! so I stopped jelqing . A few months later i was in scotland visting my super hot friend I'd wanted to get it on with her for years! not just hot but smart and funny! anyway skipping the long story we endd up in bed together and what happened i couldnt get bloody hard! now ive had sex plently of times and this was a direct result of PE this self inflicted impotence I still managed to cum but it was lifeless. i felt like such an mug, i'd ruined my penis!!!.......wait ive got some good news 6 months later....after using hot raps, and kegals and most importantly time my cock is back to normal! ohhh rapture oh joy.....you know what dumbest thing of all is before i started reading your post i was almost tempted to start jelqing again.. lol

i think your corrrect in the thinking my jelqing might work for some and not for others, some peoples bodies simply react differently. but try not to worry it will take at least a year to fix itself.

You made an interesting choice for your first post.
How about introducing yourself on https://www.pegym.com/forums/introduce-yourself/?

[Pete28 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Pete28]

Well Pete , You could just stop TRYING to get your pecker to do something it is telling you it doesn't want to do right now !!
Just pay attention to him ! He knows what he needs ! And that is being left alone so he can heal .
Sorry to be blunt , but , your clue phone is ringing . Please answer it !!
mael out !!!

Doc told me venous leackage and corporal fibrosis are a viscious cycle: lack of noctural erections due to venous leackage leads to fibrosis of the tissue, and further fibrosis will make the leackage worse. This has nothing to do with rest. This viscious cycle leads to severe and permanent ED, which can only be treated by penile implant. In extreme cases of fibrosis, implant is even no longer possible. Because flaccid penis becomes hard like a brick wall, implant insertion is no longer possible.

[NP97 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close NP97]

You know you still can get erections with VL. You just can't maintain them.

[GTO Retired ModeratorPEGym EditorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close GTO]

Nocturnal erections aren't that big of a deal, I would think. Sure it's a good PI, but I don't get them regularly and my EQ is still a good 9. Sure, it does vary during sex but never to the point of being completely limp - as soon as she starts to handle me again or starts giving a bj, I'm right back at attention.

Have you tried medications, such as Viagra, Cialis or Levitra? Any herbal supplements?

[UKGuy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close UKGuy]

As I mentioned previously yes kegels do work (for me at least) they do make my cock harder and I get aroused much faster but (and this is how I know this is a real physical problem) I simply can't hold my erection. There is losing an erection in a few minutes (which is probably normal) and there is losing it within seconds and I lose my erection in seconds the moment I get an erection. Even having a more throbbing erection from using kegels my erection still subsides way faster than it should.

I have been looking at various posts on this subject online and this guy on a ED forum had this problem. I have all the symptoms mentioned down to a t. Weaker erection, soft (barely engorged) glands when erect, morning wood not as often and weaker, can't sustain erection unless using constant physical stimulation (even then a lot of times I can't hold it) etc. After 2 years he apparently got surgery to fix the "leak" but I am skeptical because most countries don't carry out this kind of surgery for Venous Leakage and I am pretty sure they don't here in the United Kingdom where I am. I know of one man from another forum who had surgery done and got good results at first but It only lasted a few months at best, his ED went back to normal. Generally the surgery has a poor success rate it seems.

Here is the following post:

http://www.ed-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=46

[Pirate Retired AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Pirate]

To me, at least, the thought of surgery on my penis is as scary as all hell.

[Pete28 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Pete28]

There are several problems inherent in the assessment of PE and safety. First one can not argue with the fact that there obviously is a level for any exercise where the force will create permanent/chronic damage. The question is what is this level for any particular exercise? And how will it vary with the individual persons physiological strength and the specific differences each person will make on the way they perform the exercise? Also what is each person's understanding of a 70% erection? What is pain or discomfort vs feeling of an exercised/fatigued tissue, etc etc. There are a bunch of variables which makes it impossible to describe "what is safe?". In the end the decision will come down to each persons impression of what they have read on the forums. The problem is that the human brain is not costumed to evaluate information of this type in an unbiased way. If we believe in something, we look for "confirming evidence", and "objecting evidence" is not evaluated on an equal level. Hence even reading warnings and injury experiences is not enough to make people understand the risks involved.

One of the basic dangers is that men are not able to make any unbiased thought or decision with almost anything that has to do with the penis. No matter what you have, almost every man wants to be a little bigger. At the same time, the internet is presenting an enormous ability to influence people's belief, just by a few posts on a forum. It doesn't take many user experiences for a man to believe that something works, and hence the basis for detrimental decisions can easily be extremely poor. It’s just ridiculous to see teen-age boys, not even naturally fully developed destroy their penis from doing PE.

All this is just stupid and unnecessary. But the most important thing that guys are not able to understand, is the severity of the risk involved. The consequence of getting an injury is extreme. It involves a total loss of quality of life in all it’s aspects, loss of motivation for doing anything or even for continuing life itself. There are many eye-opening posts around the forums that should have been read by those tempted to try PE. But most guys don’t see them until they start to search for injury posts, and then it’s often too late, as they search for this when they already have a problem, just like me.

[VIPER Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close VIPER]

Indeed a major problem is that some guys are so keen to start gaining, they rush straight into PE without gathering knowledge from studies and quite often with to much intensity.
With that said i feel safe in the knowledge that i have Big Al as my coach because he is guiding me step by step in the right direction putting my health and safety first. After a few weeks of exercising, Big Al was concerned about my progress and EQ (lack of) and so instructed me to stop and focus on stamina only. Point being if i went at it alone i would not of considered this and kept on going leading to failure and possibly injury.
I do hope you all the best PETE ! and just remember that even the medical profession faulters and gets it wrong, hopefully you may prove them wrong.

[Pirate Retired AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Pirate]

Pete28,
I agree with much of your reasoning but not with your conclusions.
PE, like any exercise program, involves risk. That risk should be evaluated evenly when one is considering embarking on a PE program. PE offers wonderful opportunities for improving quality of life if approached correctly. And, in this case, correctly is not at all difficult. (As opposed to say, cliff diving.) The risks posed by PE to a mature, well informed, rational, prudent man are, I believe, very minimal.
If approached carelessly and in ignorance, the risks grow quickly (but are still much better than the risks posed by taking the same approach to cliff diving.)
In this way, PE is very similar to yoga: good for you and very low risk, if approached with maturity and attention. But, like any exercise program, you can hurt yourself very badly by being imprudent with yoga (or PE.)