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    Hi, everyone. I'm not sure if anyone has noticed, but, I recently made an update attempting to do PE again and after just a few weeks of pretty simple exercising, I've made my original hf/pelvic problems worse. I'm back to using the bathroom many times per day, hf is kicking back in when I stand up and my erections (when I get them) are coming back too rigid. Almost as if they should be filling up more but are being blocked. My penis head also tends to not fill up much or sometimes at all during these erections unless I edge and kegel my ass off.

    So from now on, I'm going to be solely focusing on fixing my pelvic floor and giving up on PE completely. As much as I would like to add an extra inch in length and half inch in girth, I'm not sure if it's worth all I've been through doing this shit. Also, I figure any size I've lost due to hf (which I estimate to be 1/4-1/3 of an inch both ways) will put me in a pretty good range. Not hung but not average either.

    Like a lot of you, I've heard a lot about the DCT Program and decided to give it a go. I have a pretty good amount of savings so the money wasn't much of a loss. I also figured that because a lot of people on this forum question the program due to no progress logs being kept of it from the beginning, I figure why not be the lab rat on this one. I've already tried pelvic floor physio and the HANS Protocol and while they brought me some brief relief, I would always go back to the former standard a few hours after doing them. So, in conclusion, I will be following this program and giving updates every weekend or when I notice something significant happen. I'm not sure about the legal repercussions, so I cannot (and will not) be telling what the exercises are. Don't want to get sued. Also, I am in no way affiliated with the creators of DCT and am not being paid or sent over here to promote for them. I'm merely someone who wants to provide proof of wither the course works or not.

    They state that full recovery can take 6 months up to a year so if I don't end up cured (or at least significantly better) than I was beforehand, I'll be sure to let you all know that fact. I'm going to start another post summarizing how I believe I got this and what I've learned.

  • #2
    So, I believe I first began seeing symptoms of this after a car accident I was in. I used to believe it was after using the Sizegenetics, but some of the symptoms of pelvic floor tension were there already. I just didn't know it at the time. My back took quite a beating from the accident, specifically the lower spine and tailbone. After this, I remember having a hard time maintaining erections while standing without constant stimulation of some sort. I would also sometimes get a strange burning sensation after ejaculation although this only happened once every two or three months.

    To combat my back problem, I began working out at home with body-weight, resistance bands and dumbbells. I was around 300 pounds at my heaviest and I figured losing weight would help my back and strengthen the rest of my body to compensate. So I began my fitness journey and ended up going all the way down to 220 pounds about a year and half after my start date. However, during one of my workouts, I heard a pop happen where my left leg meets the rest of my body. After this, my lower abs, testicles and pelvic area were in constant pain. I got all sorts of tests done but I didn't have a hernia or anything like that. However, they did find a varicocele, which my doctor said was so small that he figured it wasn't worth it to surgically repair. As many of you know, varicoceles have been tied to pelvic floor tension, so this was probably another sign that things had been made worse. Eventually, a lot of my pain subsided but I didn't return to exercising. Surprisingly, I still continued to loss weight. Don't know how but I made it all the way down to 185 a year after I stopped exercising and pretty much hang around that 185-195 range now.

    It was around this time of not exercising that I become obsessed with my penis size. While I was above average, both in length and girth, I was upset that I didn't live up to the (FALSE) stereotype that all black men are hung. Although I'm mixed, I still believed that if I didn't have a penis closing in on 8 inches and super thick that I was somehow less of a man and less worthy of finding someone to be with. So, I purchased the Sizegenetics and on the first use, I noticed that my glans were starting to go cold. I took it off immediately and the next day, my flaccid was shrunken down and seemed locked in place. That was when my hard flaccid symptom of pelvic floor tension/dysfunction came in to play. I had all the symptoms, cool/deflated glans, hard time getting or maintaining an erection, rubber like core when flaccid, decreased length/girth. Everything. I ended up getting to see a pelvic floor physio and that, along with me getting Cialis and later on Bluechew, which I still take everyday, I started to see some improvement.

    Which all leads up to now, where I took what little improvement I've gotten and thought I could do PE again. After an short jelq/stretch work with some edging, I woke up the next day with symptoms being worse than before. Not as bad as when I started but worse than they were before. I also noticed when I went to the gym that day (before my PE session) that doing my adductors on the machine caused a stinging sensation in my left leg (same one the pop happened in almost two years ago). Don't know which set it off but it was probably a combo.

    The only reason I thought about starting PE again was because I did some low level jelqing that didn't last but a few strokes everyday and I began to notice new veins. For whatever reason, it inspired me to try this PE stuff again.

    So that's my story. As I stated in my fist post, I will be updating this forum every weekend or when I notice positive changes, whichever comes first. If people have questions or make comments that require a response outside of these times, I will try my best to respond in a timely manner.

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    • #3
      Oh, almost forgot. During my physio appointments (I went to two: one for my pelvic floor and than another she refereed me to for spine and ab problems), it was noted that I had tension in the pelvic floor, hamstrings, quads and lower back. My abs also seemed constricted and knotted together as well. However, the muscles weren't in spasm, something they both told me was a good thing but that my muscles seemed to be in a constant state of tension that got slightly better after many visits (4-5 months plus) but never to the point of full relaxation. This is another reason why I chose to try this DCT course. It is specifically designed to target tension and since that seems to be the problem both doctors I've seen have commented on, I figure this will attack the problem pretty well.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Dream5893 View Post
        Oh, almost forgot. During my physio appointments (I went to two: one for my pelvic floor and than another she refereed me to for spine and ab problems), it was noted that I had tension in the pelvic floor, hamstrings, quads and lower back. My abs also seemed constricted and knotted together as well. However, the muscles weren't in spasm, something they both told me was a good thing but that my muscles seemed to be in a constant state of tension that got slightly better after many visits (4-5 months plus) but never to the point of full relaxation. This is another reason why I chose to try this DCT course. It is specifically designed to target tension and since that seems to be the problem both doctors I've seen have commented on, I figure this will attack the problem pretty well.

        Hey dream i really encourage you to do that try to work really hard to get rid of that tension and give up PE because it add more tension + i think by working hard you could make a 100% recovery like greg did btw greg suffered from HF and he got rid of it but but not easily he worked very very hard he got a youtube channel called Greg HF you can learn some tips from him and stay positive don’t let people tell you that you can’t fix yourself and discourage you just take action and beat this shit and try to write an update after 6 months or so because changes doesn’t come in weeks and work hard ofc to see what really gives you, good luck brother btw i still haven’t try DCT yet but im telling you what i know about it good luck 👍🏽

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        • #5
          Good luck with it. It's good that you are fully aware it may take you a long time and you are fully dedicated.

          You will find after a while of doing it that you need to be doing it for longer than the time it takes in the videos,

          It's hard work lol. I'm about 100 days into DCT, some days I really don't want to do it but I just force myself, it's only a hour and I always feel good mentally afterwards.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by HFrecovering View Post
            Good luck with it. It's good that you are fully aware it may take you a long time and you are fully dedicated.

            You will find after a while of doing it that you need to be doing it for longer than the time it takes in the videos,

            It's hard work lol. I'm about 100 days into DCT, some days I really don't want to do it but I just force myself, it's only a hour and I always feel good mentally afterwards.
            Any improvement in these 100 days ?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by HFrecovering View Post
              Good luck with it. It's good that you are fully aware it may take you a long time and you are fully dedicated.

              You will find after a while of doing it that you need to be doing it for longer than the time it takes in the videos,

              It's hard work lol. I'm about 100 days into DCT, some days I really don't want to do it but I just force myself, it's only a hour and I always feel good mentally afterwards.
              I'm watching the videos and I can tell this might actually be easier than it looks. Even though I haven't seriously weight-lifted in awhile, I'm still in pretty good shape. And none of this looks any more difficult than the body-weight stuff I used to do. The only problem is being at a gym or a playground (once again, I'm not gonna describe what the exercise is and get myself sued, but I figure since your in the course you know which one I mean). And it's not from lack of strength, but my gym doesn't really have that and, I'm sorry, but as a 26 year old, 6 foot, close to 200 pound man, I'm not gonna be hanging out at a playground 4 times a week.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Dream5893 View Post
                I'm watching the videos and I can tell this might actually be easier than it looks. Even though I haven't seriously weight-lifted in awhile, I'm still in pretty good shape. And none of this looks any more difficult than the body-weight stuff I used to do. The only problem is being at a gym or a playground (once again, I'm not gonna describe what the exercise is and get myself sued, but I figure since your in the course you know which one I mean). And it's not from lack of strength, but my gym doesn't really have that and, I'm sorry, but as a 26 year old, 6 foot, close to 200 pound man, I'm not gonna be hanging out at a playground 4 times a week.
                Dude it's not as easy as it looks lol trust me, I though the same thing. Your stamina might be able to handle it but you will definitely feel it after a couple of days.

                I have a solution for your issue, do you want to private message or do a Skype call ?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by HFrecovering View Post
                  Dude it's not as easy as it looks lol trust me, I though the same thing. Your stamina might be able to handle it but you will definitely feel it after a couple of days.

                  I have a solution for your issue, do you want to private message or do a Skype call ?
                  PM is fine, thanks.

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                  • #10
                    waddup doe. This thread definitely came at the right time.

                    1. Thanks for doing this. I'm seriously considering buying the program and have been doing hella research tryna figger out what kind of results folks are getting. Definitely appreciate you taking the time to keep a log on this.

                    2. Good to know there's at least one other brother on here. Can't really tell fareal because there's not too many instances in this forum where folks talk about race but I definitely feel you about the being big but "Am I as big as I'm supposed to be?" feeling. I had that and then HF/pelvic floor dysfunction took away about 2 inches and I had to learn to be satisfied with what I have until I start healing. (which actually might be a good thing in the long run after I heal, cuz no matter what size I am I'll be confident in my ability to please a Woman). but yeah, holla if you ever feel the need to discuss some of your feeling surrounding that with someone else struggling with some the same things.




                    3. HFRecovering - its dope that you're doing DCT! I've been researching the threads on here that involve DCT and I saw some of your commnets from like years ago so its cool that you're doing it now and it's (hopefully) helping(?)



                    If I do get the program I may keep a log as well for the same reason. Need more folks sharing their experiences with it so folks can know if they can trust it or not.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Helpabrotherheal View Post
                      waddup doe. This thread definitely came at the right time.

                      1. Thanks for doing this. I'm seriously considering buying the program and have been doing hella research tryna figger out what kind of results folks are getting. Definitely appreciate you taking the time to keep a log on this.

                      2. Good to know there's at least one other brother on here. Can't really tell fareal because there's not too many instances in this forum where folks talk about race but I definitely feel you about the being big but "Am I as big as I'm supposed to be?" feeling. I had that and then HF/pelvic floor dysfunction took away about 2 inches and I had to learn to be satisfied with what I have until I start healing. (which actually might be a good thing in the long run after I heal, cuz no matter what size I am I'll be confident in my ability to please a Woman). but yeah, holla if you ever feel the need to discuss some of your feeling surrounding that with someone else struggling with some the same things.




                      3. HFRecovering - its dope that you're doing DCT! I've been researching the threads on here that involve DCT and I saw some of your commnets from like years ago so its cool that you're doing it now and it's (hopefully) helping(?)



                      If I do get the program I may keep a log as well for the same reason. Need more folks sharing their experiences with it so folks can know if they can trust it or not.
                      What up! Glad to see I'm not alone in this. The whole BBC myth can really play mind games with you especially if you don't possess what you think you should. Not to get too specific but I should have learned that what I had would be good enough (just on the cusp of being considered big, but at the peak of above average). But nope. Just had to start this PE stuff to try and live up to a stereotype. Should have just told chicks that my white half went to my junk. Just kidding, of course.

                      Also, 2 whole inches! Sorry to hear that man. At what point are you at with HF cause I remember losing an initial inch or so from it before gaining about 1/3 of it back again. My hard flaccid is at the point where I can stretch it and move it around like normal, but the core is still tight and rubbery feeling most of the time. Sometimes the head won't fill up, shit seems to change all the time. I managed to get myself some generic Cialis and Bluechew so I can probably thank that for not completely losing erections. One of the few times I found relief was when I did molly one night with some friends. Not trying to promote ED drugs or mood enhancers here, just keeping it real on what I've seen and done. This may actually drive home HF being both a physical and mental problem as I got relief from a mood enhancer.

                      Either way, I'll probably post once a week about how my workouts went, but the people I've talked to have all said not to bother giving a progress report for at least a month as I probably won't see much change till then. It's all a process, so I guess I'll just have to deal with it.

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                      • #12
                        And not to harp on the point for too long, but the BBC myth really needs to go die in a fire. I can't tell you how much that stereotype has fucked with me over the years. It's part of what's made me not want to pursue an actually relationship with a woman besides the handful of one night stands and brief FWB I've had. And, as much as it pains me to admit it, it's part of the reason why I went on my weight loss journey as well. I wanted to ditch my fat pad in the hopes that most of my penis would become visible. And while I believe I have succeeded for the most part (still have an approximate half inch fat pad), I'm still not feeling better. I'm just hoping this DCT stuff will actually work and get me back to where I should be.

                        Okay, rant over. Sorry if it seems like I went off for nothing but I needed to get that off my chest.

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                        • #13
                          Back on again after doing my second day of exercising. Obviously it is far to early to make much of a commentary but I believe I should put this here now for anyone who decided to purchase the program based off this forum.

                          As I've learned through myself and talking to other people using DCT, there is a good chance that your symptoms may actually get worse at the start. This freaked me out as this morning I woke up with a classic HF erection that stayed around and forced me to walk around for a few minutes to get rid of. Not as bad as the days of having to walk around for 20-30 minutes but still, something I haven't had to deal with in a long time came back so I figure I should put that here. Next update, will be a summary of how my exercises went during the week of 7/22- 7/27.

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                          • #14
                            So, I just finished my DCT workouts for the week and most of the workouts went pretty well. I never had much of a problem getting them done, however I did notice that certain body parts (hips, glutes and hamstrings) burned/felt tighter than others. While the program has a heavy concentration on the entire lower body as everything is connected, I believe these three are my problem areas. If my hypothesis is correct, once the tension is out of these parts I believe that is when I will see improvement in my condition.

                            Going to attempt to lay off the caffeine as well. While I'm not a huge believer that diet is going to change the condition, I do believe my caffeine intake is a little too high and might be having an effect on the nervous system. Besides, cutting back from 4-5 cups of coffee plus one or two diet sodas to one or two cups of coffee and a diet soda every few days isn't that big of a change. Just want to see how it works.

                            HF and pelvic floor tension has changed just one week in. While these changes aren't always for the better, the fact these are having an impact on the area is a clear sign this is muscle related. And everyone says the first few weeks usually make symptoms worse/change so I'll just believe this is part of the process.

                            Also, my mental state has been a lot better lately. I don't feel as gloomy and post workouts I usually feel pretty damn good, mentally. Wither this is just a result of exercising releasing good hormones into my body or me feeling better because I believe I am now attacking the problem instead of just living with it like a curse I don't know. All I know is if it makes me mental state better, that improves my chances of kicking this for good, as many have pointed out on here that unless the mental side is addressed the chances of this returning are a lot higher. Looking forward to writing my summary next weekend.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dream5893 View Post
                              So, I just finished my DCT workouts for the week and most of the workouts went pretty well. I never had much of a problem getting them done, however I did notice that certain body parts (hips, glutes and hamstrings) burned/felt tighter than others. While the program has a heavy concentration on the entire lower body as everything is connected, I believe these three are my problem areas. If my hypothesis is correct, once the tension is out of these parts I believe that is when I will see improvement in my condition.

                              Going to attempt to lay off the caffeine as well. While I'm not a huge believer that diet is going to change the condition, I do believe my caffeine intake is a little too high and might be having an effect on the nervous system. Besides, cutting back from 4-5 cups of coffee plus one or two diet sodas to one or two cups of coffee and a diet soda every few days isn't that big of a change. Just want to see how it works.

                              HF and pelvic floor tension has changed just one week in. While these changes aren't always for the better, the fact these are having an impact on the area is a clear sign this is muscle related. And everyone says the first few weeks usually make symptoms worse/change so I'll just believe this is part of the process.

                              Also, my mental state has been a lot better lately. I don't feel as gloomy and post workouts I usually feel pretty damn good, mentally. Wither this is just a result of exercising releasing good hormones into my body or me feeling better because I believe I am now attacking the problem instead of just living with it like a curse I don't know. All I know is if it makes me mental state better, that improves my chances of kicking this for good, as many have pointed out on here that unless the mental side is addressed the chances of this returning are a lot higher. Looking forward to writing my summary next weekend.
                              My experience so far is when you start feeling worse it's a good sign, push it as far as you can no matter how uncomfortable you feel (obviously don't hurt yourself ) Then stop and rest for 1-3 days. In that recovery period the changes begin to take place.

                              I've had a few mini breakthroughs this week in terms of progress but I'm keeping it to myself for now (when I say mini breakthroughs I'm not talking about anything massive)

                              I've had to back off for a couple of days as I'm starting to feel pain.

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