Hard Flaccid/Pelvic Floor

[ronjohn812 Member Find all posts View Profile Close ronjohn812]

http://www.icadvice.com/node/26

interesting, kinda intense but might be a slight idea of what needs to be done. any believers/agreers?

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Pelvic Floor Dysfunction and Interstitial Cystitis | Interstitial Cystitis Advice

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Hmm wil need time to study and digest this.

[magnusb Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close magnusb]

i think i suffer from this , i think my intense physical job has done this to me.

[sacc Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sacc]

I have made progress healing my hard flaccid (not 100% yet, but I will be healed soon enough). I believe and agree with this pelvic floor treatment.

I'm currently doing home treatment (aka I don't know where to find a pelvic floor specialist) and this is my routine:

1) TENS unit for ten minutes, once every couple days. I use the pads on the perineum, buttocks, and lower back (sacrum) area. This stimulation seems to cause COMPLETE relaxation of the penis and pelvic muscles, at least for a period of time. Warning: Do not place pads on the front side of your penis... I tried this and my penis went numb for a week! I think it has something to do with the dorsal nerves...?

2) Internal stimulation. Yes, you need to lube up your finger and stick it in. Curl your finger like you're doing a prostate massage, but not quite so far inside. Here's an illustration (Fig.3 on page 3): http://www.jmweissmd.com/pdf/JMW_Pel...ger_Points.pdf -- This type of massage is helping me a lot.

3) Focusing on relaxing the pelvic floor several times a day. If I lay down, close my eyes, and imagine those muscles relaxing, I can reach into my pants and find a healthy, relaxed flaccid.

I hope these techniques help someone. They are definitely helping me.

[Blastoise Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Blastoise]

How long have you been doing that? I can't afford a TENS unit this month but I am interested in trying this since nothing else is helping...

[sacc Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sacc]

I've been doing internal massage and TENS for about 3 weeks. The unit I use is called Dr Ho's Muscle Therapy. It's an infomercial product, way cheaper than professional units used by chiropractors and physical therapists. My partner gave me an old model he had lying around, so I'm not sure how effective the current product line is. I'm not affiliated with any company, btw.

Miscellaneous tips for the TENS:

Don't use the high intensity settings. You'll know it's cranked up too high when your muscles are flexing like crazy. You wanna feel a light/moderate tickling sensation and nothing more.

The penis will tense up extra tight when you first turn on the machine, but this should go away after a couple minutes as your body becomes accustomed to the jolts.

Use the pulse setting (that feels like a heartbeat), not the constant setting (that feels like a Charlie Horse)

Be careful with that penis. I would not put the pads there, although there's a lot of people who do.

[moxsum Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close moxsum]

Glad things are improving for you Sac.. however, I would caution people against experimenting with the TENS unit.. dont wanna make things worse by accident, those things can be intesnse at times, I have one myself, never put it on my pelvic floor though and not sure i would reccommend it..

I would however reccomend massaging your pelvic floor, but once again be careful.. probably best to see someone who does pelvic floor work professionally is possible.

[ronjohn812 Member Find all posts View Profile Close ronjohn812]

yeah dude, idk if internall massage is the answer everyones looking for

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i didn't mean that rudely

[sacc Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sacc]

If guys are letting their macho pride get in the way of their own healing process, that's their decision. I find it very sad, though.

[Newbert_zero Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Newbert_zero]

I just don't see how sticking my finger up my ass would help. If anything my natural reaction would be to tense up even more. How would that help relax anything?

[ronjohn812 Member Find all posts View Profile Close ronjohn812]

if i interpret it correctly, sacc is saying theres a period of intial tension followed by the massaging process which is supposed to make it better. Obviously, im willing to go to all ends to get rid of this problem, but if another method can do the job, id prefer to try that. Can external massage also work?

[Mr.Friend Senior MemberPE Gym Editor Find all posts View Profile Close Mr.Friend]

if i interpret it correctly, sacc is saying theres a period of intial tension followed by the massaging process which is supposed to make it better. Obviously, im willing to go to all ends to get rid of this problem, but if another method can do the job, id prefer to try that. Can external massage also work?

I wonder this too? Also, yeah, how can the initial tension be helping anything?

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The Tennis Ball Trick

For many practitioners, the Thiele form of massage may be in contravention of their license. In such cases, a referral to an appropriately licensed and trained practitioner is one option. Even where this is seen to be a good clinical choice, focus on normalizing the associated pelvic muscles and breathing function offers a positive option.

Another option was offered to me by a therapist (ex-dancer) at a recent workshop. She reported she had suffered many of the symptoms outlined above, and had been instructed in Kegel exercises for her incontinence. She noted that these exercises had aggravated rather than helped her. A yoga therapist had then advised her to purchase a tennis ball and sit on it with the ball (placed on a firm surface such as a carpeted floor) strategically placed under the perineum, between anus and the vagina; and to allow the pressure onto the ball to deeply relax the pelvic floor muscles for five to 10 minutes daily. She reported that this procedure was somewhat uncomfortable at first, but that the effects were dramatic in terms of her symptoms. I have since recommended this to several patients for home use and all have reported benefit.













saw this on a website for pelvic floor relaxtion..confused, however. many people say don't do anything to aggravate the eplvic floor area (ride bike)..i guess the tennis ball helps? any thoughts?