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    I posted about my injury a month or so back. Long story short, I felt pain after jelqing one night in January.. the next night I was unable to get an erection. Morning wood also stopped. About a month after this occurrence, I was still unable to get erect and my penis went numb to any form of stimulation (touch, hot/cold, etc). Around this time, I was able to get 80-90% full erection with stimulation, but they quickly went down when stimulation stopped.

    I've seen multiple urologists and even a neurologist about this issue, and they all say it's in my head. Went to an andrologist in my state whose speciality is ED, and she also came to the same conclusion. I had a doppler ultrasound done and she claimed my bloodflow was "great" and indicated no signs of venous leakage. Peyronie's tests also came back negative. She put me on cialis (which doesn't have much effect on my EQ) and is sending me to see a sex psychiatrist.

    Currently, EQ is still about the same with stimulation. Woke up with 80% full morning wood a couple days back. Numbness is still present in my penis, mainly my shaft. All areas of my shaft have regained most of the hot/cold sensitivity instead of the left side.. For some reason the left shaft is still unsensitive to any stimuli. Glans and foreskin don't seem to be affected at all by the injury, I was able to ejaculate just rubbing the head with no stroking.

    I know this story seems worn out.. but any words of advice will truly be appreciated. This issue has heigthened my depression and I have become suicidal. The last specialist I saw assured me that my erection and sensitivity would come back, but I have read countless stories online of guys with similar lab/test results who did not regain their erection.

    Again, any advice appreciated. Thanks

  • #2
    Give plenty of rest and get a medickal checkup

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    • #3
      Focus on the fact you've had it investigated and have nothing physiologically wrong with you.

      I recovered from hard flaccid - something which seems to give people problems for months if not years - by ultimately mentally breaking down the barrier. I had all sorts of symptoms which seemed to suggest that it was physical - I didn't get an erection in 2 weeks, had a 'lifeless' penis / numbness, a weird tingle in my pelvic floor etc - but mentally I never worried about it and eventually sat down in front of porn for about an hour and forced myself to get an erection. That was around 10 days ago, since then I've made a full recovery and then some - I'm getting erections more than I did as a teenager now.

      My advise to you is this:

      1) You've had the professional help. Now mentally reinforce the fact you've got nothing wrong with you.

      2) Relax. It will fix itself. The people with the long term issues are the ones who fall apart mentally.

      3) Refrain from any penis related activity for at least a week, if not 2. No touching, no porn, and try not to even think about your penis.

      4) Don't research / google your condition. And for the love of christ don't go on any 'recovery' forums.

      4) Hot baths (the help relaxation).

      5) Deep weightless sumo squats 4-5 times per day. Basically spread your legs ~40" apart and squat. Do a few squats then hold it for 10-20 seconds. I know your situation isn't hard flaccid, but I'm sure a lot of people have tight pelvic floors. It helps with posture and relaxation.

      6) In a few weeks try to force yourself to get an erection.


      Read my post on this board for more information - specifically about not reading internet forums. Everything on internet forums is doom and gloom and / or cancer. They're incubators for despair and will just make your condition worse. What you see with forums is a lot of confirmation bias. The regular posters are the people who haven't been able to get over their condition, whilst the people who have no longer have a reason to post on them. Think about it: if you recovered tomorrow (which is doable) would you have any real motivation to go back on a forum asking for help?

      Once I'd gotten over my condition (within 4 days of actively rehab-ing it and in under 4 weeks after getting it) I took a good look at internet forums and jesus christ, I had more severe symptoms than most of them and it was fixable in 4 days.

      You will get through this. Just keep yourself together. If you're feeling suicidal you should go and see your doctor.

      Good luck.

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      • #4
        Congratulations, you can achieve an erection! That is really good news, so is the fact that you made it through all of their testing without problems. Now, when they tell you that your problem is likely phychosomatic, they are probably onto something.

        Here is what I believe happened to you and how you go about addressing the issue. You injured, likely a minor or moderate injury, nerves in your penis, that in turn led to some numbness and the symptoms you described. Now, minor injuries like this usually resolve themselves over time, as the professionals have examined you and run tests and you do have feeling and the ability to achieve an erection you are off to a good start. It is very likely that with six months worth of time or so you would be fully recovered.

        But, your brain has taken over. You are now fixated on their being a problem with your penis despite there being no physical reason for your ED. Why is that happening? When you are overly concerned about not being able to achieve an erection, it becomes extremely difficult to achieve one. In your case, you have a reason to believe you can't, ie your previous injury, and every time you have difficulty it reinforces that belief. It is entirely plausible that you are creating a self fulfilling prophesy.

        Here is the really good news. You have a working functioning penis. You can achieve an erection and feel enough stimulation to ejaculate. That is awesome news for you. Sure, your EQ isn't what you want right now, but it can and will get better. As soon as you can work through your phychological ED you will be just fine. It is a difficult process and their recommendation for you to go see a sex therapist is a great idea.

        For general EQ and recovery a light jelqing routine and a light Kegel/Reverse Kegel routine could help you recover EQ. Given your history I would say stay away from more aggressive forms of PE and focus just on enhanced EQ.


        I guess the best advice for you is to relax, follow the advice of the medical professionals whom you have seen. You have a working functional penis. Go to the sex therapist and work through your fear and anxiety over the situation and it will improve.
        Initial(9-1-11): BPEL: 7.25", BPSFL: 7.75", EG: 4.75", BEG: 5.25", BPFL: ~5.0", FG: ~4.0"
        Current(7-1-16): BPEL: 8.375", BPSFL: 8.75", EG: 5.375", BEG: 5.875", BPFL: ~6.625", FG: ~4.75"

        Realistic Goal: BPEL: 8.5", EG: 5.5"
        Idealistic Goal: BPEL: 9.0", EG: 6.0", BPFL: 7.0", FL: 5.0"

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        • #5
          There is nothing more than some of these guys with serious injuries would want more than to find a solution, post their recovery story and feel like a hero. Not to offend anyone, but the facts speak for themselves. People are typically showered with praise/likes/rep points when they talk about 'the mental,' and typically ostracized or driven off these kinds of forums when they talk about long term injuries.

          My advice to the OP would be to trust yourself and never feel pressured into posting what you think other people want to hear.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Nimble View Post
            There is nothing more than some of these guys with serious injuries would want more than to find a solution, post their recovery story and feel like a hero. Not to offend anyone, but the facts speak for themselves. People are typically showered with praise/likes/rep points when they talk about 'the mental,' and typically ostracized or driven off these kinds of forums when they talk about long term injuries.

            My advice to the OP would be to trust yourself and never feel pressured into posting what you think other people want to hear.
            Where are you going with this?? He went to multiple doctors/specialists, they have found no physical cause for his ED. He can achieve an erection, and the professionals have concluded that he has psychosomatic problems and needs to see a therapist to aid in his recovery. At this stage given the information the OP has supplied the psychosomatic hypothesis seems to be the most actionable and most likely to be correct.
            Initial(9-1-11): BPEL: 7.25", BPSFL: 7.75", EG: 4.75", BEG: 5.25", BPFL: ~5.0", FG: ~4.0"
            Current(7-1-16): BPEL: 8.375", BPSFL: 8.75", EG: 5.375", BEG: 5.875", BPFL: ~6.625", FG: ~4.75"

            Realistic Goal: BPEL: 8.5", EG: 5.5"
            Idealistic Goal: BPEL: 9.0", EG: 6.0", BPFL: 7.0", FL: 5.0"

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            • #7
              So he went to a bunch of doctors, all I bet not qualified, did a bunch of test all of which came back as healthy so what exactly can you fix? I think it's a great idea to tell this guy to keep looking, keep testing, keep spending money and maybe some day 50 years from now some real doctor when find his problem and fix him. Let's all keep him fixated that he does have a problem that medical science can't find and ruin his life. Great idea!
              The world's still a toy if you just stay a boy!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Nimble View Post
                There is nothing more than some of these guys with serious injuries would want more than to find a solution, post their recovery story and feel like a hero. Not to offend anyone, but the facts speak for themselves. People are typically showered with praise/likes/rep points when they talk about 'the mental,' and typically ostracized or driven off these kinds of forums when they talk about long term injuries.

                My advice to the OP would be to trust yourself and never feel pressured into posting what you think other people want to hear.
                I understand the sentiment, but in situations such as these it isn't physical. This guy has undergone a full investigation and has been told his penis is fine. You're conjecturing to represent the low odds chance that there may physically be something wrong with him that none of the experts managed to pick up, despite their years of combined expertise, which is needlessly antagonistic: there's nothing to suggest that this is the case. What's more, it's directly counter-productive to the far more likely case that it's mental (as the doctors have told him). You could throw in a 'yeah but what if???' for everything, but after you've sought medical advice and had the tests you can't keep worrying about it. If this guy hadn't had the physical investigations my advice would have included seeking medical attention - mainly to ease the mental strain, but also to see if there truly was something wrong with him.

                I had hard flaccid to the letter. It wasn't the worst case I've seen reported, but it was pretty bad. I didn't have a single erection for 2 weeks and every-time I tried to get one just felt this weird tingle in the base of my penis - I couldn't get anywhere near 80% (like OP). My corpus spongiosum and entire upper half of my penis (including glans) looked dead. When you talk of these 'facts' I'm here purely to try and help the balance: most people likely recover and never mention it again, which is what I would have done had I not seen the number of people lose their minds over their injury.

                Once I had my injury I didn't panic, or worry in the slightest, and just left myself alone for a couple of weeks. Nothing changed, so I read one post on HF and went about trying to fix it. In 4 days I was fixed.

                Over this period when researching the fix I found pages and pages of people with far less severe symptoms than my own losing the plot, flying all over the place to consult experts and being told nothing was physiologically wrong with them. Fortunately for me reading those posts had no negative effect on me, probably because it's a common source of bemusement amongst my friends in the medical profession that 'everything on the internet points to the worst case scenario'. People work themselves up and get to a stage where they're mentally in a complete state and it plays a negative role in recovery.

                I'm not saying it'll be easy to fix, nor am I saying that some people don't have legitimate long term injuries, but in OP's case he's fine. I'd wager he probably damaged his penis a few months ago, that it recovered, but a combination of his CNS / mental state is messing him around a bit. These types of injuries are basically about reminding your body how to perform certain functions.
                totemj
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                Last edited by totemj; 05-09-2016, 06:04 PM.

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                • #9
                  He says he had a doppler and a test for peyronie's, but did the neurologist do any tests to check for any kind of nerve issues, or did the neurologist just say it was mental without doing any testing? Pelvic issues are notoriously difficult to diagnose as well, as one example, people who have solved their HF through physiotherapy almost always had to find out about it on the internet and basically hold their doctor's hands to get a diagnoses, but this isn't really the point.

                  I'm always open to have an honest discussion and getting into specifics and evidence, but if people are going to lose rep points for just noticing stuff and giving an opinion then I guess people would have no choice but to either agree with some people or be silent, plain and simple.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Nimble View Post
                    ...I'm always open to have an honest discussion and getting into specifics and evidence, but if people are going to lose rep points for just noticing stuff and giving an opinion then I guess people would have no choice but to either agree with some people or be silent, plain and simple.
                    Neg reps mean nothing if you believe in what you say.
                    The name's Tamora...TVR Tamora...with a capital "T".

                    Lots of living to do yet unseen and a more stories yet untold!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Tamora View Post
                      Neg reps mean nothing if you believe in what you say.
                      I agree, but the negative reps could be a warning shot about being banned for not just going along with some individuals, or for basically being the messenger about stuff which is frankly pretty obvious, in which case I wouldn't be able to say anything anymore, so I felt that I needed to address it.

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                      • #12
                        The fact that you state having "depression" and becoming "suicidal", shows that you do have indeed psychological issues that may very well be causing psychosomatic symptoms.

                        No matter what is causing your symptoms at this point, a doctor doesn't matter. He will be no help in any aspect. As you already saw, they not only were unable to pin point direct cause of your problem, but beyond that, they prescribed you drugs that did nothing to cure you. There is no point in going to more doctors.

                        The good news from this, is thatchy did not find anything wrong. That is good. If it was something really bad and serious, they would have seen something.

                        Your problem is based on lack of proper nutrition. How old are you? How is your diet? either if your body needs to rebuild tissue or cure psychological issues, it can only be done with nutrient therapy. Not with drugs.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Nimble View Post
                          I agree, but the negative reps could be a warning shot about being banned for not just going along with some individuals, or for basically being the messenger about stuff which is frankly pretty obvious, in which case I wouldn't be able to say anything anymore, so I felt that I needed to address it.
                          Neg reps can be given by anyone.

                          You're nowhere near getting banned!
                          The name's Tamora...TVR Tamora...with a capital "T".

                          Lots of living to do yet unseen and a more stories yet untold!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Nimble View Post
                            I agree, but the negative reps could be a warning shot about being banned for not just going along with some individuals, or for basically being the messenger about stuff which is frankly pretty obvious, in which case I wouldn't be able to say anything anymore, so I felt that I needed to address it.
                            You aren't under attack by the Mods to silence you. I gave you negative Rep because I strongly felt you deserved it for your post that was at the least unhelpful to the OP and likely detrimental to his progress. He can achieve an erection, he can ejaculate, he has consulted with professionals that have found no physical problem and his condition has been improving somewhat. Their diagnosis was psychosomatic and referred him to a sex therapist. He has displayed multiple symptoms that are congruent with that diagnosis. Trying to force upon him the idea that he has a mystery persistent serious injury and it isn't all in his head was outright uncalled for and deserving of negative Rep.
                            Initial(9-1-11): BPEL: 7.25", BPSFL: 7.75", EG: 4.75", BEG: 5.25", BPFL: ~5.0", FG: ~4.0"
                            Current(7-1-16): BPEL: 8.375", BPSFL: 8.75", EG: 5.375", BEG: 5.875", BPFL: ~6.625", FG: ~4.75"

                            Realistic Goal: BPEL: 8.5", EG: 5.5"
                            Idealistic Goal: BPEL: 9.0", EG: 6.0", BPFL: 7.0", FL: 5.0"

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                            • #15
                              He didn't state whether or not he was tested for any nerve issues though, correct? Plus, as I stated pelvic floor issues are notoriously difficult to diagnose, and some who have cured their HF through physiotherapy have had to basically hold the hands of various professionals in order to get a diagnoses.

                              I think it is extremely unhelpful and uncalled to force upon people the idea that they have a mysterious, persistent psychological condition, a deep anxiety, a pernicious anxiety, or other deep, mystical, powerful normal human emotions causing their physical issue. It denies them closure, it makes them feel isolated and alone when they are looking for support, and it drives some people nuts.

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