Chemical PE

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Thank you.

[WhiteThunder Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close WhiteThunder]

since steroids and hgh reduce your recovery times for your muscles, to the point where you may be able to lift twice a day, would you think it is plausible that it would have the same effect on the penis allowing on to pe twice a day on workout days and still take days off throughout the week

[shane_syndrome Banned Find all posts View Profile Close shane_syndrome]

I read somewhere that the recovery time of your penis is just 10 hours anyway so you could do it morning and night.

steroids dont make you recover so fast that you can workout twice a day (unless they where diferant muscle groups) they do help improve recovery time but not like what you would think

[raffinato Member Find all posts View Profile Close raffinato]

igf quantity

Hello iguana

could you tell me how much microgram IGF you utilise to inject? and how many times per week?

the object in the patent is to enlarge the penis with cardio vassodilators en make those enlargements permanent by adding IGF in the mix (thats my understanding anyway)
i am brooding on an idea to also use IGF but in combo with a vacuumsystem for the enlargments (caverject too expensive and not available on black market) - IGF is plentyful though.

what do you think? also, do you thinki its better to insert IGF before or after the vacuum pump?

i will experiment with this anyway during a course of GH & AAS, with vacuum pump & IGF administered to penis.
(point being that there should be enough growth factor around at any one time)

thanks in advance for your answer

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[Kirin Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Kirin]

raffinato,

I am considering the same routine for the exact same reasons. Where are you planning on buying your IGF? Although it is everywhere, I think that it is critical that you get quality, fresh IGF. Bunk IGF might be the reason why others who attempted a chemical PE routine experienced no growth.

We should all be sure to keep each other updated. No falling off of the face of the earth, please!

[raffinato Member Find all posts View Profile Close raffinato]

i get everything on black market. its trustworthy though. i comes from pharmacies.
whats your plan so far kirin?

[Kirin Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Kirin]

I have no practical experience with chem pe, but I have read a lot on the theories.

Since I can't get caverject, I am planning on buying IGF and using that alongside pumping/clamping/stretching. Maybe I'll include DHT later, but I'm paranoid about balding. I really like my beautiful hair.

I don't know if I'm so sure that all of the IGF out there is legit. It would be easy for a shady operation to use old IGF, or include less IGF than they claim.

[information101 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close information101]

Haha I can't believe I found this website. Or that it exists with so many members lol.

Well I decided to do a little experimenting of my own with IGF-1 and penis injections a while ago. It was over 2 years now, but I remember the effects very well.

Let me start by saying the material was known to be of high purity and injected in a concentrated saline solution (was around 5-10 mg/mL), to minimize the volume needed to inject obviously. Injections were done in the corpora cavernosa (see: http://www.modernpenisenlargement.co...is-diagram.gif) - although a few times it was hard to get it in there. The tissue is tough to begin with and doesn't like things to be injected into it. You have to kind of get lucky to get a good 10-20 microliters of solution in there, and that's about all I was willing to do. One time I remember the needle not even being able to inject anything lol (this was done with short needle 100 unit BD syringes). And yes it can be painful and I had to psyche myself up for it each time I did it (around 6-7 times in total over a few months; I didn't keep track or run a schedule or anything).

I was looking for some size sure, but not really sure what to expect. At the time there was no discussion of this anywhere.

Anyways on to the effects, eh?

So the first few times I did it, I was struck with some ridiculous blood flow and injection site swelling. I've never done viagra but this was probably just as strong if not stronger. I mean insane blood flow, I would just sit there and it would pulsate (while I worked it out lol). It was definitely novel and after the first few injections I was like "Damn if not for the injection thing this is the freaking jackpot."

Well maybe not exactly. I did get a little increase in girth and maybe length too, but we're talking like centimeters. The nights of injection there was more noticeable short-term size increase due to the super blood flow.

Then after about my 4th or 5th injection I noticed that I was starting to grow new veins on the side I had been injecting most (because it had no veins to begin with and I didn't want to inject into a vein; rather the tissue). Then in coming weeks one fairly big one grew and by now it runs the entire length of the penis! There are a few smaller vein growths too, but fortunately I (a) didn't have a veiny penis to begin with and (b) stopped doing it before all hell broke loose. The one long vein took a few months to develop fully even after I stopped. Also I may have had some minor urethra growth in the short-term (urinating felt a little strange sometimes; slow to empty) but it is back to normal now. The injections avoided this area entirely but certainly it is not unreasonable for the IGF-1 to travel there and do its thing.

Moral of the story, there appears to be something to it and I certainly do not want to disencourage intelligent experimentation but my story is what it is. Now it has been 2+ years since I took any IGF-1 and I think maybe I have a little bit of permanent girth added but the whole vein thing is kind of scary and certainly deterred me from doing it anymore.

So if people are going to try it - I'll tell you if you do it right, those first few injections are going to give you the best wood ever, but it is a dangerous game to play. I could see a bit of the vein growth after a few injections but the wood effect was so nice I just wanted to keep doing it, even with the mind-numbing injections.

Also if you are wondering about orgasms. Yeah I think the veins might make things a bit more intense (right - there's more blood flow now!). It's hard to say because it was a while ago and I have done a lot of crazy things in between the times and who knows how Mr Willy would be working today had I not dosed him with growth factors but yeah if you can spare the sight of a new vein or two give it a shot. =)

[raffinato Member Find all posts View Profile Close raffinato]

thank a lot 101 for your post.

some question if u please?

1 did you inject before or after exercise?
2 what dosage of IGF?
3 did you always inject in the same spot?

it seems to me that you injected very irregularly, and with very high dose - thats my impression (don be offended)

thanks a bunch for your story bro

[information101 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close information101]

Ah I injected when I was soft because the injection is easier to do like that. But always before any sort of masturbation or anything. It wasn't really much of a scheduled thing. I really didn't know what to expect, I was just kind of messing around to see if it would do anything since the IGF-1 was readily accesible - an extra bit of size would be cool I thought. And if it worked I would probably be one of the first people in the world to know it did. =)

The dose of IGF-1 would have varied a bit. I would load up the syringe with 2 or 3 units of the ~10 mg/mL solution (I forget what it was exactly, this was a while ago but it was as concentrated as I could make the solution) and just slowly push the needle into the side past the skin and barely get the needle into the corpora there; at the base not near the head - there's not much room really.

Once it was in (you will feel it lol) I would try to inject as much as possible but usually I would only get maybe half of it in before yelping in pain and pulling the needle out. Also once or twice the needle would not inject further after injecting 1/2 of what was loaded - the tissue there isn't real accepting of injections period so you kind of have to get lucky and hit a good spot to get much in.

So the end dose would be approximately 100 to 300 micrograms per injection (1 unit = 10 microliters). And yes the dose was pretty large but I didn't know what I was doing really. What is the dose needed for growth I asked myself? 1 microgram? 10? 100? 1000? I just made it as concentrated as possible so I knew the injection volume wouldn't have to be large and I would get as much as I could in per shot.

Remember I only did it like 6-8 or so times - maybe once a week or two. I don't have an exact count. The injections are not fun and I had to psyche myself up to do it. The blood flow effect is pretty cool, when I got a good dose in there it was like no erection I ever knew. But once those veins started appearing I knew it was a good idea to stop.

Who knows what would have happened if I kept it up. Or if there could still be residual growth in the region - just at a very slow rate. It's only been about 2 years or so. Think about how long it takes for you dick to grow from youth to adulthood? The few veins seem to have settled in like they were always there. I might have grown a centimeter or so in length over that time. It is hard to say. I'm not doing any measurements or anything. I just stumbled on this forum searching online to see if anyone else was doing this as I know there are people out there willing to do the types of things I am and that proteins like IGF-1 can be obtained pretty readily these days. And I knew that eventually I would find somewhere to share my story. =)

I can't really tell you much else though. If you have access to the right materials it is worth trying if only just once or twice for fun.

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lol mine was painless :P

[Jackxxx Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Jackxxx]

Even if you grew 1 centimeter in length, which is about 1/3 of an inch, is A LOT for 10 weeks. considering you were just plain experimenting without a scheduled routine and injections.

[NSF001 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close NSF001]

I am generally unfamiliar with Chemical PE. I wanted to know if the gains that come by through chemical PE affects only smooth muscle or does it also make the tunica longer and wider by adding more cells in it.

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I am generally unfamiliar with Chemical PE. I wanted to know if the gains that come by through chemical PE affects only smooth muscle or does it also make the tunica longer and wider by adding more cells in it.

I would have to say it depends what your taking , I am personally expecting mostly girth gains from the IGF

[NSF001 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close NSF001]

I would have to say it depends what your taking , I am personally expecting mostly girth gains from the IGF

Thanks for your reply. You say that you expect the IGF to work on your smooth muscle then? What would you recommend for elongating or widening the tunica?