HCG for testicle and penis gains

[GiftBringer Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close GiftBringer]

I came across HCG during this test e cycle (750mg weekly). A month in and my nuts started pulling in close and shrinking noticeably. Almost like i had little boy nuts from 15 years ago.

2 weeks on HCG 250IU every second day and my nuts are fuller than ever.
Arimidex 0.5mg every third day together with 5mg of nolvadex for safe measure.
Ill end this a week before PCT which includes clomid and nolva.

Came across a study by the NCBI regarding penis and gonad response to HCG (a quick search will conclude this). The study reported +-2 cm in penis length (flaccid and stretched) and +-2cc in testicle volume over a 24 week period. Not to mention sperm count. Now, the lab nuts were taking a lot more HCG than i am but, at this dose mine are back to peak and some.

Has anyone done any research on this?

One more thing - Ive noticed some shaft size and thickness during and after pumping. My cock has risen before me for the past week, waking me up each time
Gear coupled with PE to increase gains .... Lets see.

[6inDongNotForLong Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close 6inDongNotForLong]

What is HCG?

[GiftBringer Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close GiftBringer]

What is HCG?

A hormone made in the placenta during pregnancy.
The Pituitary gland stimulates Leydig cells in the nuts, tells them to produce more testosterone.
So while on gear my nuts are still making test and not shrinking up. else they would go offline till after the cycle.

[Venti Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Venti]

A hormone made in the placenta during pregnancy.
The Pituitary gland stimulates Leydig cells in the nuts, tells them to produce more testosterone.
So while on gear my nuts are still making test and not shrinking up. else they would go offline till after the cycle.

That's exactly why increase in testicular size won't last after the cycle. LH stimulates leydig cells to produce testosterone and increases testicular size, when exogenous test is used LH shuts down and balls shrink. Hcg does the same as LH to leydig cells but it's not identical to LH otherwise. It's very estrogenic and some get gyno from it even when estrogen is controlled.

Hcg monotherapy is legit TRT method and many men have used it without reported increase in penis size. Was the study done on boys with delayed puberty? Big doses of hcg are used for it as well.

EDIT. And the increase in testicular size isn't linear. Hcg monotherapy commonly uses up to 2500iu 2-3x week and they don't have significantly larger testicles than those using 250iu 3x week.

[GiftBringer Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close GiftBringer]

Thanks for your response. I see. yeah it said the studies were done on young men between 16 and 21. I guess their testicles weren't fully developed, making the tests a little unfair. All i care about is that mine are back lol

Next question..
Is there any validity in saying Exogenous Testosterone will help penile tissue growth and recovery time while on a PE routine?

[CriticalMass Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close CriticalMass]

Thanks for your response. I see. yeah it said the studies were done on young men between 16 and 21. I guess their testicles weren't fully developed, making the tests a little unfair. All i care about is that mine are back lol

If this is the study I'm thinking of, I commented on it here:

A couple qualifiers for this study:

(1) As Pegasus mentioned above, the participants all had idiopathic hypogonadotropic hypogonadism (HH), that is, they had deficient production of pituitary hormones (LH & FSH) active in the pituitary-testis link responsible for stimulating testosterone production. Effectively, they had low testosterone as a consequence of inadequate testicular stimulation, and as a result they had impaired penile growth during normal development and met criteria for micropenis.

(2) hCG has stimulatory effects on LH & FSH receptors, so it's not surprising that the study group had an increase in average serum testosterone levels (i.e. hCG therapy stimulated their testes to produce normal amounts of testosterone.

(3) Interestingly, the participants ages ranged from 12 to 24 years (with a mean of ~ 19), which is pretty heterogeneous considering some would likely be peripubertal and some postpubertal, and this has obvious implications for the expected natural penile growth occurring during this time. The authors don't report the full set of participant ages and don't stratify results based on participant age.

(4) Some basic things: this is a noncomparative study in the sense that it's simply a case series of 20 patients treated with hCG. As there is no comparison group, it's difficult to infer any measure of effect of hCG on growth beyond that expected in the normal pubertal period (even in patients with HH). Perhaps most importantly, any effect present in this study is a result of normalizing testosterone production (and thus penile exposure) in patients who are hypogonad at baseline. Effects of increasing testosterone in endocrinologically normal individuals cannot be soundly extrapolated from any effect present in this study. Furthermore, as it is typical for penile tissues to be growth-sensitive to androgen stimulation in the pubertal period, generalizability of any effects of hCG (or increasing testosterone exposure in general) to older age ranges is limited.

Just some quick observations from glancing at the study.

Next question..
Is there any validity in saying Exogenous Testosterone will help penile tissue growth and recovery time while on a PE routine?

Unknown.

[GiftBringer Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close GiftBringer]

Awesome. Thanks CriticalMass.

[wellshii Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close wellshii]

Nah.
But as far as the second question......Let us know from your experience.
I am sure it wouldnt hurt.
I might be hopping on HGH soon,and will be taking notes. Of course,just clinic doses,not Ronnie Coleman doses.
Supposedly the penis is made of of tons of receptors,two of those being HGH and DHT test.
I really wanna try all the drugs out there and go all out.
But for now,beside the hgh,all natty.

[ripper89 Member Find all posts View Profile Close ripper89]

I did a cycle of Test e 3 years ago. Results were magnificent, the only gains i lost were water weight retention, but the gains made were crazy. I did JP90, Bathmate 15 minute sessions as well as Phallosan extended 8 hours a day. I went from 7 to 8.25'' in length and went from 5.25'' girth to just under 6". I have to attribute some of these gains to the Test as i was able to do multiple sessions of these days within the week vs 1-2 as theyre so hardcore.

My body fat percentage went down which eliminated some of my fat pad which i also attribute to the length increase but also an increase in my EQ levels as i used to suck my stomach in a little during sex which had me concentrating on that versus the act of sex itself so i was never 100% fully hard.

In response to your question about HCG, yes it did increase testicle size but this increase was very obvious in the sense that it would just go back to normal following PCT. Also just as a hint, i used a natural test booster AFTER 4 weeks of PCT use. This helped increase my levels using a natural supplement but also helped my body to regulate back to normal levels a lot faster.

[GiftBringer Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close GiftBringer]

Nah.
But as far as the second question......Let us know from your experience.
I am sure it wouldnt hurt.
I might be hopping on HGH soon,and will be taking notes. Of course,just clinic doses,not Ronnie Coleman doses.
Supposedly the penis is made of of tons of receptors,two of those being HGH and DHT test.
I really wanna try all the drugs out there and go all out.
But for now,beside the hgh,all natty.

Yeah the thing is I'm hard pretty much all the time. Test definitely better than viagra. Watched a movie in bed with this hottie. Was hard for 2 hours, knowing what usually happens after a movie hmm. I get hard by the slightest thought of a girl. Even after sex I'm still hard. I think the dose combination is perfect. Gotta come down some day tho.

[GiftBringer Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close GiftBringer]

I did a cycle of Test e 3 years ago. Results were magnificent, the only gains i lost were water weight retention, but the gains made were crazy. I did JP90, Bathmate 15 minute sessions as well as Phallosan extended 8 hours a day. I went from 7 to 8.25'' in length and went from 5.25'' girth to just under 6". I have to attribute some of these gains to the Test as i was able to do multiple sessions of these days within the week vs 1-2 as theyre so hardcore.

My body fat percentage went down which eliminated some of my fat pad which i also attribute to the length increase but also an increase in my EQ levels as i used to suck my stomach in a little during sex which had me concentrating on that versus the act of sex itself so i was never 100% fully hard.

In response to your question about HCG, yes it did increase testicle size but this increase was very obvious in the sense that it would just go back to normal following PCT. Also just as a hint, i used a natural test booster AFTER 4 weeks of PCT use. This helped increase my levels using a natural supplement but also helped my body to regulate back to normal levels a lot faster.

For sure. That makes sense. Protein synthesis, androgens and recovery time are multiplied 20 times from 5mg of natural test per day to 150mg per day. I'll up my workout volume in that department too. Thanks for the info. I'll add a test booster after for sure

[pump4girth Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pump4girth]

How did you get your Test? Prescription or just pills from online source? Any good ones you can recommend ? While on Test do you increase pe exercises and intensity? Thank you.