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  • #16
    Thanks for the detailed reply beachbay. I do have the 99.9% pure dmso sitting here, am just considering which protocol to try first. I'm surprised you didn't get any benefits or results with just rubbing it on, technically it should absorb just the same... but hey if you found your method works better then so be it. Just to be clear, no paba in your urethra drops, right?

    You won't consider adding pump or hang sessions with what you're currently doing? I will probably add both in some capacity, see how it goes. I've tried quite a few things myself - manual, extender, pump (water and air), hanging. Just for clarification, I did caverject not so much for PE but for EQ, this was before I discovered that multiple injections in the penis can cause fibrosis.

    I think the mechanism that is working for you is that the erections are expanding the dmso-softened tissue - since you are not applying any force or traction of PE. Your gains are coming quick - .25 in girth in 4 weeks is impressive. I believe I will have to add in some manual PE as my EQ and frequency is low right now - not sure hormonal or stress - working on a solution for that as well.

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    • #17
      Did you notice weird stuff happening to your left eye from the use of the dmso ?
      It did happen to me so I quit.
      https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-e...a-jelqing.html

      Quality jelqs / Moving squeezes

      Off to the real world.

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      • #18
        Dropping a solvent down your pee hole terrifies me yet holds me in strange and unhealthy fascination...
        27/07/13 - BPEL: 6.25" EG: 5.0"
        14/08/18 - BPEL: 7.1" EG: 5.3"

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        • #19
          Originally posted by aminofuel400 View Post
          I think the mechanism that is working for you is that the erections are expanding the dmso-softened tissue - since you are not applying any force or traction of PE. Your gains are coming quick - .25 in girth in 4 weeks is impressive. I believe I will have to add in some manual PE as my EQ and frequency is low right now - not sure hormonal or stress - working on a solution for that as well.
          Yes the gains did come quick in that sense, i did have to take a double look when i woke up for a few days when i saw what was hanging down. See how manual PE works for you, i don't really want to go back to it, i was afraid it would toughen up my ligs again and i would have to start over. I'm over that stage, but i'm interested in hilarious_bunny's progress if he checks back. Hes incorporating a few things in hes routine.


          Originally posted by popol5169 View Post
          Did you notice weird stuff happening to your left eye from the use of the dmso ?


          Nah never had that, most i got was a bit of allergies, however dmso has been shown to cause lens changes in animals at higher doses, my vision hasn't changed at all but its very very slightly fuzzier in the morning when i was on it daily. Visions back to normal now.

          Originally posted by Praetorian View Post
          Dropping a solvent down your pee hole terrifies me yet holds me in strange and unhealthy fascination...
          I assure you people have done much worse to their bodies . Yeah i can see why it would terrify, Caverject would terrify more people than a solvent, yet thousands of people do it, keep in mind people with bladder disorders get dmso treatment in hospitals so cant be all that bad.
          beachbay
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          Last edited by beachbay; 04-04-2015, 06:32 AM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by beachbay View Post
            Yes the gains did come quick in that sense, i did have to take a double look when i woke up for a few days when i saw what was hanging down. See how manual PE works for you, i don't really want to go back to it, i was afraid it would toughen up my ligs again and i would have to start over. I'm over that stage, but i'm interested in hilarious_bunny's progress if he checks back. Hes incorporating a few things in hes routine.


            Hi beachbay, Thanks for the reply. Hilarious_bunny is incorporating manual PE work right after applying (then wiping off) dmso, theoretically makes sense - loosen collagen and tissue first then stretch. My routine is apply dmso and leave it on overnight then do heavy hang in the AM 5 days a week (pump the other 2). The objective is the same - break up bad tissue (fibrosis) with dmso and concurrently expand good tissue with PE. But now your comment about PE 'toughening up your ligs again' has me reconsidering manual PE... can you elaborate on that? Why would that be a concern for you? Even if so, wouldn't hilarious_bunny's pre-workout dmso allay that?


            Apologies for all the questions, I have also tried a bunch of different protocols with no results so I'm trying to be as detailed as possible. Last night I applied 99.9% pure dmso; started with a few dabs with a q-tip for skin test... no reaction, then applied more with the q-tip and painted some on and left overnight. No negative issues at all but didn't notice any positive indicators, no expansion or hanging heavier, no erection etc. So I'm thinking this morning to try hilarious_bunny's approach and put some dmso before starting a hang session. Will update ongoingly.


            edit: this from your previous post ---

            'Was doing some hanging at one point but my cord left like it was made of the strongest known metal, like literally made of titanium, unbreakable. This is the reason i went the chem route, i lost all hope in manual work.'


            I think that maybe what you were experiencing here was fibrosis from caverject injections. One of the treatments for peyronies disease is an extender - meant to soften the calcification. I'm trying to ascertain why hanging would results in your member toughening up.
            aminofuel400
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            Last edited by aminofuel400; 04-04-2015, 09:32 AM.

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            • #21
              Hey beachbay, any updates? I've tried to get a few drops of dmso down the urethra but not having any luck, I nearly insert the tip of the pipet in the urethral opening and drop a few but it doesn't seem to run inside, feel some warmth aabout 2 cm in and that's it, when I try to put more in it spills out everywhere. perhaps I need a much smaller pipet and need to push it into the urethral opening further?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by aminofuel400 View Post
                Hey beachbay, any updates?
                Hey aminofuel, not much change am in a break mode right now ( 1 week ) then back to 1 or 2 drops every 2 weeks. I feel the substance is very strong so this is necessary now. I feel the time i can acheive the biggest and thickest erection indicates that its the ideal time for gains. I get them on break from dmso, so i believe keeping one up for atleast an hour each day benefits gains. Have you had luck with it now? Any change to EQ? and how often are you doing it?

                I noticed when i first was on, that my flaccid was huge, i guess due to the immediate exposure of first contact.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by hilarious_bunny View Post
                  Hi there!
                  I have gotten about 5mm BPEL since 2015/1/28 with DMSO.
                  My chopstic became 16.3cm from 15.5cm for 2weeks.
                  DMSO softend my stic. But Hardness of erection is not soft, still hard.
                  If you can read Japanese, pls see my pics on Japanese blog.
                  ?????????????????

                  I think this is a successful case with DMSO in short term.
                  Oh I should explain my program.å

                  1. Wash your penis and hands without soap.
                  2. Make 80%DMSO with pure clean H2O.
                  3. Just spray it to shaft and glans. If you can inject to urethra with pipet(of course without needle), I recommend to inject 0.5ml DMSO to urethra.
                  4. Wait to evapolate and absorb about 10min. Please clamp urethral orifice with your fingers to avoid leakage.
                  5. Wash again without soap.
                  6. Then I do hard exercise with penis ring and use penis extender.

                  That's it.
                  Hi there. Long time no see.
                  Ive gotten 5mm in BPEL and EG
                  Now my BPEL is 16.5cm and EG is 12.5cm.
                  Ive switched DMSO to MSM. MSM is easier safer than DMSO.
                  2014/08 BPEL 13.0cm, EG 10cm moderate ED I took a supplement (Mega max ultra) for 3 months.
                  2014/11 BPEL 15.0cm, EG 11cm
                  2015/01 BPEL 15.5cm, EG 12cm (2 months plateau)
                  2015/02 80%DMSO spray + Penis Extender + Exercise + TestoJack100 1cap/day
                  2015/02/12 BPEL16cm, EF12cm

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                  • #24
                    I've been trying a similar protocol and I've seen no improvements in girth or flaccid hang...

                    Hilarious_bunny...? Have you seen the same benefits from MSM? Maybe it would be safer to try that instead of risking it with dmso when it doesn't seem to be doing anything for me.
                    STARTED: BPEL 6.1" MSEG 4.8"
                    26/03/15: BPEL 6.7". MSEG 5.0"
                    END GOAL: BPEL 7.75". MSEG 5.75"

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by beachbay View Post
                      Hey aminofuel, not much change am in a break mode right now ( 1 week ) then back to 1 or 2 drops every 2 weeks. I feel the substance is very strong so this is necessary now. I feel the time i can acheive the biggest and thickest erection indicates that its the ideal time for gains. I get them on break from dmso, so i believe keeping one up for atleast an hour each day benefits gains. Have you had luck with it now? Any change to EQ? and how often are you doing it?

                      I noticed when i first was on, that my flaccid was huge, i guess due to the immediate exposure of first contact.
                      Hi beachbay, thanks for the update. Yes I've been toying with different protocols with this stuff. I have mixed 99% pure dmso with a peptide called GHK which converts to FGF in the body and am using that. I tried dmso with paba and didn't like some of the indicators, I felt my member kind of shrinking whereas with the dmso/ghk was more of a heavy hanging so I've discontinued the paba.


                      I haven't dropped any in the urethra as I'm not able to get the drops on there (even though I tried several times), the chemist I consult with assured me there is absolutely no difference with method of delivery topically or via urethra... so at this time I've only been rubbing it on.

                      I've tried different protocols; rub on for 12 minutes, wash off then heavy pump (bathmate 20 min) then heavy hang (up to 10 lbs up to 20 min). I've also tried putting it on AFTER workout so that the FGF will help recovery. I've done before and after workout as well. I do dmso every day of work out which is 2-3 days on, 1 day off.

                      What I've definitely noticed is the following - member is more pliable and gummy, I'm able to hang longer and with more weight. Flaccid state is definitely more full and heavy.

                      What I haven't noticed is any improvement or increase in frequency in EQ. Apart from dmso, I have noticed a decrease in erections, it might be that I'm overtraining with PE. When I do get an erection, it does feel a bit more full but I haven't measured yet until I get to 90 day mark with this protocol (PE + dmso, started around April 1st).

                      I'm deciding what adjustments to make, I might need to rest more - dial back either PE and dmso or just the dmso, not sure. Based on what you are indicating, I might dial back on the dmso for 5-7 days and maybe cut PE days in half.

                      My main goal right now is increasing erection and EQ; I find I get a much better pump routine with even 50% erection but for some reason - hormonal, stress, too much PE - not finding many good EQs. I'm considering toying with very very small amount of Viagra - talking about the smallest size you can break off a 100mg tablet - I would venture to say about 10mg, just to get some blood flow enough to get a good pump session.

                      I've also been toying with a product called Muse; its a PGE administered via urethra, I only used it once but not for PE, just tested it out with the gf. Decent stuff - advantage is no injection like caverject (for fear of fibrosis) and no systemic side effects like Viagra. However, I am reticent in doing Muse every day I do PE for the sake of an erection, so I might just try that 1-2 a week. Are you maintaining an hour erection without any aid?

                      Back to the dmso, just had an idea typing this... I might try the Muse pippet to deliver the dmso via urethra since I wasn't able to get the drops in there with a normal pippet. My chemist buddy has put some fear in me about getting an infection but I'm going to give it a try.

                      In conclusion, I will continue with the dmso + PE, I just need to establish some EQ for the pump session to achieve full benefits, I may dial back the amount of days with the dmso based on your findings. Hang sessions are going very well, no issues there.

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                      • #26
                        Hi hilarious bunny, can you tell your routine/protocol with PE and MSM? You were very happy about the results from dmso. Are you doing topical MSM or oral ?

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                        • #27
                          I'm really enjoying this thread! sent away for some DMSO last week, and just started using it tonight… 2 drops in my urethra, then hang for an hour with 12.5 LBS.

                          thinking of using it twice a day for a couple of weeks, like you started out doing.
                          300 - 450 Jelqs + hanging 1 -2 hrs a day with some edging and DMSO, will let you know how it works for me.
                          Start date 4-16-14 now 7-12-16
                          BPFSL 7.5 BPFSL 8.25
                          BPEL 6.875 BPEL 7.5
                          EG 5.250 EG 5.5
                          NBPEL 6 NBPEL 6.5
                          EQ 7 EQ 8.5

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                          • #28
                            so curious, what do you think about the dmso. i've been using it as part of my warm down routine. just lather the whole thing. it gives a warm sensation, but not too uncomfortable. also, push a bit down uretha, is uncomfortable for a second but then goes away. it seems to me that on top of a good routine adding something that has some amazing healing properties would only benefit the process. but since i am in the trial and error method. i hope there isn't much error. keep at it.
                            goal--Contentment
                            proactive's progress log

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                            • #29
                              just went over the previous threads. wanted to share my gains. also started dmso and main routine on april 1st. i have seen 1/4" in girth and 1/8" in length. head is definately fuller and notice fuller skin when flacid. skin is bunching up around my head and sometimes just swallows it up. kind of an interesting sensation. i dropped a post about dmso last week, but didn't see a lot of response specifically about it. so i am excited to see it here. thanks for your input
                              goal--Contentment
                              proactive's progress log

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                              • #30
                                I'm reading about combining DMSO with Agmatine, and other supplements, very interesting!!!
                                Tonight I put 3 drops of 99.99% in my urethra felt a burning feeling, that went away after 3-4 seconds… held it in for about 30 seconds, tilting it up, then down, to keep it moving and basically massaged it in with my finger and thumb.

                                here's the kicker, when it came out it was kinda bubbly and whitish!!!
                                not sure what is up with that, or if anyone else has had this experience?

                                I noticed a nice plump flaccid hang today. (this may also be from doing 2 hrs of hanging last night)
                                I think I'm gonna pump, and do some clamped edging now.
                                lowpang
                                Senior Member
                                Last edited by lowpang; 05-12-2015, 12:33 AM.
                                Start date 4-16-14 now 7-12-16
                                BPFSL 7.5 BPFSL 8.25
                                BPEL 6.875 BPEL 7.5
                                EG 5.250 EG 5.5
                                NBPEL 6 NBPEL 6.5
                                EQ 7 EQ 8.5

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