Why do some people say that bone pressed length doen't count?

[ChaosManhattan Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ChaosManhattan]

I have been browsing the internet lately and reading some of these penis enlargement forums. I've read various posts where people have stated that you can only use the non-bone pressed length and you can only see the non-bone pressed length?

It seems shockingly retarded to me.

First off, you can't see what's under the fat pad from the top. You can see it a little more from the side though and you can definitely see the extra dick from the bottom. Anyone who has a view of the bottom of your dick can tell see the entire length and then some really. You can also simply put your fingers around the base of you dick and press into the fat revealing a lot of extra length. I did that the first time I was ever with 2 girls at once and I was in high school for god sakes. Those girls don't know shit All they see is you pushing into your skin and a big dick sticking out. They thought my size was pretty decent and I'm under 6 non bone pressed.

The second thing is what really seems completely unbelievable to me though. People think you can't use the extra length or you have to "press really hard". That seems weird to me because I can press my pinky to the bone pretty easily. I guess that I'm gonna have to press a lot harder if I want that fat to compress against a woman though? I can slam a women with my pelvis if she wants it hard and it doesn't bother her if she wants it rough. Or I can press as gently as I want to get it all in. And you telling me that if a woman sits on me, my fatpad is going to support her weight?

Personally, my fat pad doesn't change. I use to be 7 inches bone pressed but lost interest and I'm back down to 6.63 inches with like 5.8ish non bone pressed. I think I cemented like .13 extra inches but I barely care.But that's a decent amount of hidden dick. You can see why this gets to me lol. The lightest I've ever been in my life was 160# at 6 ft and I still had a big fat pad in my pubic area. I have no gut to get in my way. Can someone in the bone pressed doesn't count camp explain to me what they are talking about?.

Bonus question since I don't plan on starting another thread: Are these averages all over the internet talking about bone pressed or non bone pressed. They seem a little small for bone pressed to me. I'm like half an inch or more above average if they are bone pressed and I don't believe that...

[Jackxxx Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Jackxxx]

Well, I tend to agree with them. I didn't read your whole in detail, just read it very fast, but long story short, there is something called "usable" penis. And thats the one you use when you fuck. Not the bone pressed. The only reason bone pressed is used, it to have a standard way to measure everybody equally across the board for statistic purposes. Fat pad varies, so measuring everybody by fat pad would be inconsistent. When you plow some muffin, you don't use the bone pressed. In order to really use it, you would have to kind of fold your legs behind your back to be able to hit it with everything down to the bone. Her legs, your hips, your legs, her hips, will always be to some degree in the way to interfere. I guess if you both are pretzels and can put your legs behind your back while breeding, it would have a usable bone pressed phallus.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Well, I tend to agree with them. I didn't read your whole in detail, just read it very fast, but long story short, there is something called "usable" penis. And thats the one you use when you fuck. Not the bone pressed. The only reason bone pressed is used, it to have a standard way to measure everybody equally across the board for statistic purposes. Fat pad varies, so measuring everybody by fat pad would be inconsistent. When you plow some muffin, you don't use the bone pressed. In order to really use it, you would have to kind of fold your legs behind your back to be able to hit it with everything down to the bone. Her legs, your hips, your legs, her hips, will always be to some degree in the way to interfere. I guess if you both are pretzels and can put your legs behind your back while breeding, it would have a usable bone pressed phallus.

As I have long suspected you are doing sex wrong , if you aren't using bp push it in harder.

[Cavalier Retired Super Moderator Member of the Month Feb 2015PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Cavalier]

I agree, BP is the usable length. I am able to use it even with a 1 inch fat pad.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

I have been browsing the internet lately and reading some of these penis enlargement forums. I've read various posts where people have stated that you can only use the non-bone pressed length and you can only see the non-bone pressed length?

It seems shockingly retarded to me.

First off, you can't see what's under the fat pad from the top. You can see it a little more from the side though and you can definitely see the extra dick from the bottom. Anyone who has a view of the bottom of your dick can tell see the entire length and then some really. You can also simply put your fingers around the base of you dick and press into the fat revealing a lot of extra length. I did that the first time I was ever with 2 girls at once and I was in high school for god sakes. Those girls don't know shit All they see is you pushing into your skin and a big dick sticking out. They thought my size was pretty decent and I'm under 6 non bone pressed.

The second thing is what really seems completely unbelievable to me though. People think you can't use the extra length or you have to "press really hard". That seems weird to me because I can press my pinky to the bone pretty easily. I guess that I'm gonna have to press a lot harder if I want that fat to compress against a woman though? I can slam a women with my pelvis if she wants it hard and it doesn't bother her if she wants it rough. Or I can press as gently as I want to get it all in. And you telling me that if a woman sits on me, my fatpad is going to support her weight?

Personally, my fat pad doesn't change. I use to be 7 inches bone pressed but lost interest and I'm back down to 6.63 inches with like 5.8ish non bone pressed. I think I cemented like .13 extra inches but I barely care.But that's a decent amount of hidden dick. You can see why this gets to me lol. The lightest I've ever been in my life was 160# at 6 ft and I still had a big fat pad in my pubic area. I have no gut to get in my way. Can someone in the bone pressed doesn't count camp explain to me what they are talking about?.

Bonus question since I don't plan on starting another thread: Are these averages all over the internet talking about bone pressed or non bone pressed. They seem a little small for bone pressed to me. I'm like half an inch or more above average if they are bone pressed and I don't believe that...

Hmm shockingly retarded is perhaps a bit harsh .
Nbpel has some value as a visual only measure inaccurate as it is .
I had allawys assumed that any non virgin female would know about fat pad but I was wrong . Now we may consider thus shockingly retarded or not but they tend to think what they see is what they get even when they feel an extra inch .

[Qandisa Senior Member Member of the Month March 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Qandisa]

1) I agree that NPBEL's only real value is visually

2) In certain instances I am 100% sure that all of the BPEL is used. The fat pad squishes, so unless you're going at it really slowly and carefully and only until the fat pad barely touches her then yes it's going to get squished when pressed against her and you're going to get further in than NBPEL.

3) It's absolutely true that most women don't give a thought to the fat pad etc at all. Honestly it never even occurs to us. I'm also sure that most of them don't think about how their own weight or fat distribution affects sex and penetration etc. We really think about sex in different ways. I think this is part of the reason why there's a common misconception that women think about sex less than men. It's not necessarily less than, it's just different than. Which makes sense when you consider that it isn't just our physical experience of sex that's different, it's also things like our vantage point. Unless we're at an extreme angle women rarely SEE penetration, men see it all the time. So of course what we mentally focus on regarding sex is going to be different.

[Phoenix7672 Senior Member Member of the Month Oct 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Phoenix7672]

Only time BPEL doesn't really matter during sex is if your NBPEL is too long for her to take comfortably...so I can see anyone who is 8-9" NBPEL and 9-10" BPEL saying it doesn't matter, much like Mandingo, but not if you are shorter than that.

[gms585 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close gms585]

It's like iceberg spotting...

If you see a tiny iceberg on the surface but under the water is huge your still not going to be like Holy Crap thats a big iceberg.

Size is a visual thing and no one is like oh nice dick but push up on your fat pad lets see whats behind the scenes there.

[Phoenix7672 Senior Member Member of the Month Oct 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Phoenix7672]

It's like iceberg spotting...

If you see a tiny iceberg on the surface but under the water is huge your still not going to be like Holy Crap thats a big iceberg.

Size is a visual thing and no one is like oh nice dick but push up on your fat pad lets see whats behind the scenes there.

Maybe not...but once you hit what's just below the surface, you'll quickly figure out just how big the first iceberg might really be.

[Jay1983 Senior MemberMember of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Jay1983]

Ohhh how it would be to be 8" NBPEL.

[gms585 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close gms585]

Maybe not...but once you hit what's just below the surface, you'll quickly figure out just how big the first iceberg might really be.

true... IDK I guess its a philosophical difference. If your 8'' bone pressed but only 7'' exposed your partner will just assume its 7'' but felt like 8''.

[Marlon LGHanger Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Marlon LGHanger]

I have absolutely no problem utilizing 100% of BPEL. It just depends on the position and how hard I want to plow.
My equipment is like a 5 speed stick shift on a 69 Chevy Camaro Z28! I can be fully hard like a weddin dick and in the doggy position pile drive straight down till it hit bottom like a fat kid ridding a pogo-stick. The little bit of fat pad I have makes no difference.

[ChaosManhattan Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ChaosManhattan]

Well, I tend to agree with them. I didn't read your whole in detail, just read it very fast, but long story short, there is something called "usable" penis. And thats the one you use when you fuck. Not the bone pressed. The only reason bone pressed is used, it to have a standard way to measure everybody equally across the board for statistic purposes. Fat pad varies, so measuring everybody by fat pad would be inconsistent. When you plow some muffin, you don't use the bone pressed. In order to really use it, you would have to kind of fold your legs behind your back to be able to hit it with everything down to the bone. Her legs, your hips, your legs, her hips, will always be to some degree in the way to interfere. I guess if you both are pretzels and can put your legs behind your back while breeding, it would have a usable bone pressed phallus.

My first thought is that I shouldn't be taking sex tips from some dude who describes sex as plowing some muffin. I'm not sure if you understand this but your hips thrust forward. I don't know if you fuck with your hips flexed so that your legs are in the way or something? I don't where your coming from. There is technique to having sex. Maybe if your really big then you just jam it in there and assume your the king?I think these people who talk about usable length are either people who are horrible lovers and or people who have big dicks and need to feel special about them. Are you pumping out 20 rep squats with freaky monster quads that are getting in the way because your hip-flexors are too tight to hyper extend your hips?

To be perfectly clear, I'm not saying that women who think this way are stupid. They don't have dicks and fat pads to examine closely. They like the way a dick looks when it's big and there's no fat covering it. That's very natural and understandable.I'm talking about guys who think this.

Also:
1. I'm sure there are women who know about fat pads, many don't know, and many don't care. They are individual human beings so who knows what an individual knows and what they care about.

Also, Gms585...I don't ask a woman if she wants me to press down on my fat pad and she doesn't ask me. I just do it and she may/probably doesn't know that I did it. But if there's extra dick exposed then she can see it. It makes a difference when you have a big fat pad. Especially if you don't have much fat anywhere else. Not as good as not having the fat there but I definitely see a difference in the mirror. Coarse, a lot of women don't necessarily care that much anyway. That's why I quit PE and lost almost half an inch bone pressed.

My last statement is this. I gained about half an inch bone pressed when I did PE. I gained practically nothing non bone pressed for some reason. So I gained half an inch of dick but none of it was usable? That's pretty magical how my body defied the laws of physics to render me incapable of using the exta half inch of dick that I either grew or pulled out of my body.

[gms585 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close gms585]

You do know Mr. Jackxxx is iterally a professional. Literally he's paid to sex. So I'd take the advice.

My point is this. It's known past 6.5-7" size really isn't a major factor in pleasure for women. Therefore size becomes mostly a visual thing. It's the wow factor, it's the confidence booster it's bragging rights. None of those are nearly as pure when your 9" er is actually a 7"er with 2 usable*** inches buried under chub.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

So there we are nbpel is about bragging rights . Mind you Chase gets around that by quote Also, Gms585...I don't ask a woman if she wants me to press down on my fat pad and she doesn't ask me. I just do it and she may/probably doesn't know that I did it. But if there's extra dick exposed then she can see it. It makes a difference when you have a big fat pad. Unquote
Seems pretty simple . Not that HAS ANY EFFECT ON SEX BUT MEH THERE YOU ARE.