Pale Humans Energetically Devolved?

[domnus Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close domnus]

This thread was somewhat entertaining initially. I'm glad you believe your theories Sungiver. You are to be commended for for that at least. I've noticed that you frequently rebut the posts of others by making comments like, "almost every point you made was false of further proved my point."
Ino made several valid points about your theories and he shouldn't have to go through one point at a time so that you can enlighten him and the rest of us for that matter. You should either prove or disprove the points he made, not encourage him to go through one point at a time. He did that already.
I think you have read something, somewhere that gives you all these theories you have and that the readings touched you deeply. Now you feel the need to "educate" the rest of us.
Personally, I think this thread has to be the greatest troll in the history of the web. You must be a great fisherman because you got a lot of bites on this one!

[SunGiver Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SunGiver]

How does sunlight convert to energy in the human body. Simple question so answer it. Before you do let me tell you that I have a bit of knowledge of organic and inorganic chemistry as well a god good idea of human biology on a micro and macroscopic level. Okay you're turn.

Im not entirely for certain on what you are asking... "How does sunlight convert to energy within the human body?" What do you mean.

Sunlight is energy... The human body absorbs it when its within range. The more it absorbs the shorter the bodies wavelengths and the higher the bodies charge.

[SunGiver Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SunGiver]

This thread was somewhat entertaining initially. I'm glad you believe your theories Sungiver. You are to be commended for for that at least. I've noticed that you frequently rebut the posts of others by making comments like, "almost every point you made was false of further proved my point."
Ino made several valid points about your theories and he shouldn't have to go through one point at a time so that you can enlighten him and the rest of us for that matter. You should either prove or disprove the points he made, not encourage him to go through one point at a time. He did that already.
I think you have read something, somewhere that gives you all these theories you have and that the readings touched you deeply. Now you feel the need to "educate" the rest of us.
Personally, I think this thread has to be the greatest troll in the history of the web. You must be a great fisherman because you got a lot of bites on this one!

Yes, Ino made a few points that i do plan on responding to. Id rather do it one point at a time. Ill address everything or close to everything that he said. Especially the points that i feel hold strong relevence.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

How does the skin absorb energy? Do we have solar panels as skin? Solar panels take the suns rays or energy as you call them and convert the light energy into electrical energy. So what you are saying is that instead of putting solar panels on my house i should just cover the roof in human skin. Sorry I know it's a religion for you but it is not realistic. Humans are not photosynthetic.

[Toadstool Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Toadstool]

i should just cover the roof in human skin

You need a job done, you tell me, I'll hire a few guys, and we'll get the job done.

[ino Senior Member Member of the Month June 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close ino]

For now ill just say that the energy that is absorbed from the sun is not "dissipated". Dissipate meaning, disperse or scatter. Which is exactly what you say pale bodies do. Pale bodies disperse and scatter the energy. Dark bodies absorb energy. Absorb meaning, take in or soak up (energy, or a liquid or other substance) by chemical or physical action, typically gradually.

If you feel that my analogy supports your claim, you don't catch the analogy. By your logics, then when we as a human group stay away from the sun (either just for the night, or if we place humans close to the poles during the dark months of the year) light-skinned bodies will hold onto their energy efficiently while not being in the sunlight, whereas dark-skinned bodies would leak lots of energy and get incredibly drained because they don't have access to the sun.

In other words, dark skinned people would have an advantage of efficiently storing energy directly from the sun, but would need high maintenance from the sunlight to not be energtically depleted. Light-skinned would on the other hand not as easily store energy from the sun, and would need to stay longer into the sun to store the same amount of energy. But once solar energy is stored, light-skinned would have a clear advantage as to holding tightly onto the energy.

That is, only if we go along with your thought that human bodies directly utilize / store the energy that emits from the sun, which few of us go along with.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Hey Ino where have you been? Long time no see!

[ino Senior Member Member of the Month June 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close ino]

Hey CUSP, nice to see you too! Glad to see that you remember me after all this time, even when I changed my avatar. You know... life offers challenges at times, and this was what had me vanish for a good while. But I will never keep stay away from this place for good. Good people and valuable information here makes this place gold.

[SunGiver Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SunGiver]

When it comes to light (as in energy or photons from the sun), it is a fact that physical objects that appear to look black for the human eye will absorb most of the light in the spectrum and therefore it will dissipate heat/energy. Solid objects that look white to our human eye will scatter the light and therefore absorb little heat.

True, accept, as Ive said, the energy is not "dissipated". It is absorbed and retained. The more energy it absorbs the darker it becomes.

Transferring such known knowledge of physics over to the human body based on the shade of skin isn't obvious. You state that paler humans absorb less energy, although from what is known, the human body doesn't store or convert energy by directly sunlight.

The human body does store energy from direct sunlight. All matter absorbs energy from direct sunlight. The more of this energy the body absorbs the darker it becomes. This darkness is condensed sunlight.

You appear to make your statement as a fact more than a theory. But you also seem to agree that science doesn't support you, although in a sense you state it does, because of some basic principles of physics. I personally don't expect that skin colour can predict the level of energy in any human.

My statements are fact. They are backed by facts. The basic fundamentals of energy are proven by science and support my claims. But where science travels off into biology it makes statements that contradict facts that are already proven by the basic fundamentals of energy. The color of the body reflects its energy level or wavelength. This has nothing to do with the amount of food the body eats.

There is an extended colour range around us that is invisible our human visual eye. Such as the infrared light. Humans do emit infrared light. An infrared camera will see this light around our human bodies. Would you say that paler humans have less infrared light emitting from them? This would be easy to test out. (However if it was any difference on infrared emittance between people with darker skin and lighter skin, I am sure it would have been detected long time ago.) Are there other methods of measuring energy level in a human that you believe supports your claim? Of course, we humans emit temperature (which can be measured).

The charge of the human can be measured through the wavelengths it generates. The paler the color the lower its chargr. The straighter the hair the lower its charge and the paler its hair the lower its charge. There are different mixtures of wavelengths which ndicate different charges.

Since the sun contains ultra violet light, and you assert that the human body stores energy directly from the sun, then why doesn't the human body emit ultraviolet light, just like we emit infrared?

Im not sure that the human body doesn't emit ultraviolet light or energy. If it does not then that could be because the bodies dont absorb that spectrum of energy.

*An important thing to take into consideration is that the colour of the skin is literally skin-deep: The human body consists of so much more mass than this tiny layer of upper skin layer. Therefore it would be strange if this tiny portion of melanin and our cells that make up the miniscule outer skin layer, would predict how the rest of the body will inhabit energy. (It is obvious that sun has to do with vitamin D related to the exposure of sun light, but this deals about hormonal activity and not about energy in itself.)*

The darkness of the skin correlates with rest of the body. Its all interconnected and works together. The skin is the bodies largest organ, it feeds the inside if the body information from the environment around it. Also, the organs of humans darken as well, not just the skin. This is why some dark humans have dark gums and other innards.

*Then I am curious as to what exact kind of energy you are talking about, that you mean differs in humans of different skin colour? Is it literal energy, and not some form of spiritual energy? If you talk about literal energy, could it be done quantifiable measurements through kinetic experiments monitoring energy emittance or loss? Or perhaps would precise measuring be done by monitoring the heat that dissipates from human corpses during cremation? What exactly are your thoughts on how human energy can be measured? (And not predicted by skin colour.)*

Im talking about literal energy. Which circumstances all forms of energy. This energy can be measured by absorbing the objects wavelengths. Shorter wavelengths correlate with less energy while longer wavelengths correlate with more more energy.

*Let's for a moment play along with your claim. A simple image of the human skin, is that it is a biological clothing for our body. And now I want to make an analogy, by about talking about real clothing: Opposed to what is thought, wearing black clothes doesn't mean only absorbing heat from outside and provide it to the body. And wearing white clothes doesn't necessarily mean a loss of heat. The explanation for this is that black clothes absorb the energy not only from the sun, but also it efficiently absorbs the heat (energy) out and away from the body. This makes a person feel more cooled down while wearing black clothes when not in sunlight. A person wearing white clothes, will not feel as warm standing in the sunlight, but will feel warmer (than the person wearing black clothes) outside the direct sunlight, since the white clothes reflect the temperature between the body and the white clothes and send the heat back to the surface of the body, instead of absorbing the heat and make it dissipate on the outside of the clothes. Using this analogy I believe that even you may notice a problem to your main claim?*

The energy is not dissipated or scattered. The energy is absorbed and retained untill itsvin an environment cold enough to take energy away. This is why on a hot day a darker car will feel hotter than a paler car. If the energy was being dissipated in the darker matter then it would not feel hot, it would feel cold. The paler car would be cooler because it isnt absorbing the full amount of energy, it is reflecting or scattering (dissipating) most of it.

*Also, may I ask what the purpose by starting this thread was? Is it about pure philosophy, or does it involve some theory revolving gains from PE exercises? Since you don't elaborate on your purpose for your claim, it hangs a bit in the air.*

My purpose was and is solely to discuss information. Though this information can lead to all kinds of theories that pertain to pe exercises.

[SunGiver Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SunGiver]

If you feel that my analogy supports your claim, you don't catch the analogy. By your logics, then when we as a human group stay away from the sun (either just for the night, or if we place humans close to the poles during the dark months of the year) light-skinned bodies will hold onto their energy efficiently while not being in the sunlight, whereas dark-skinned bodies would leak lots of energy and get incredibly drained because they don't have access to the sun.

In other words, dark skinned people would have an advantage of efficiently storing energy directly from the sun, but would need high maintenance from the sunlight to not be energtically depleted. Light-skinned would on the other hand not as easily store energy from the sun, and would need to stay longer into the sun to store the same amount of energy. But once solar energy is stored, light-skinned would have a clear advantage as to holding tightly onto the energy.

That is, only if we go along with your thought that human bodies directly utilize / store the energy that emits from the sun, which few of us go along with.

If dark humans migrated away from the sun they will slowly become pale. Their wavelengths would slowly lengthen. It would adapt to lower levels of energy. If pale humans migrated to environments closer to the sun they would slowly become dark. Their wavelengths would shorten.

All humans are the same with varying different charges. This charge is dependent upon how much energy they have absorbed from the sun which is this planets energy source.

[Devoted Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Devoted]

Yeah, I don't buy into this crap. We aren't plants.

[SunGiver Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SunGiver]

Yeah, I don't buy into this crap. We aren't plants.

Yes, but we do absorb energy from the sun. That energy charges our bodies, though not in the same way as food.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Heat; one of many forms of energy. The body does not store heat from the sun. When you sit in the sun the body feels the heat generated by the sun; it does not absorb it. If anything your body fights it buy using it's own energy not gotten from the sun to produce sweat to cool the body. You brain tells you as you get hotter and sweat more to get out of the sun. You're not getting any of this are you?

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

The sun is the planets energy source? Okay can you explain to me, to us, why the planet Jupiter gives off more energy than it receives from the sun?

[SunGiver Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SunGiver]

How does the skin absorb energy? Do we have solar panels as skin? Solar panels take the suns rays or energy as you call them and convert the light energy into electrical energy. So what you are saying is that instead of putting solar panels on my house i should just cover the roof in human skin. Sorry I know it's a religion for you but it is not realistic. Humans are not photosynthetic.

All matter absorbs energy. All matter absorbs photons. Including the matter that makes up the human body.