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Yeah, I dunno about that. The whole Russian collusion thing seems to have no basis in reality and was just the media making crap up.

Was it not Mt Trump who asked for help from the Russians live on stage, he states, he never before meeting Putin that he had never had contact with? yes but then he would not have to as he has contacts with Russians that in Putin's pockets from his time in Russia doing the Miss World pageant that was done from there.

These was sent by I think your find by Putin himself, to assist him why he was in Russia, his backdoor to Putin.

Sauce of info The BBC, there a whole article on it.

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I ask all where you get your news from? Those particularly from overseas. If from BBC, CNN, or other main stream media sites, you are fed talking points - what they want you to believe. This is and was how things were before the age of the internet where other voices could not be heard. To answer your question Nowhard, I am probably more schooled than you as far as reading and understanding current events. Let me explain why I say that.

If you only read and listen to main stream media, you follow their agenda, you follow their talking points. You listen only to what they want you to hear and think. You only get one side of the story. If by contrast (and god forbid) you follow Conservative Commentary you get the other side of the story. Conservative Commentary talks about the main stream medias story and then gives you facts that they won't tell you. They link to the main stream story and then add fact and logic to it. It cuts through the "talking points" and lets you make a decision based on all the facts. It gives you both sides in one article.

Truth is that the main stream media is hell bent on setting an agenda. That agenda is to paint Mr. Trump as a Buffoon and try endlessly to get him in a "Gotcha" moment. To date, none of the "Gotcha" stories have had any truth behind them. The "Dossier" of Trump collusion with Russia - Debunked as a paid propaganda piece paid for by Hillary Clinton to be a prime example. They make stuff up out of thin air and hope it sticks. Read the other side to get a true picture. And in the end, the other side may not sway your opinion, and that is fine. But it is disingenuous to comment without reviewing all sides of the story.

For a small sample of what is out there, I ask that you spend a few days reading some of the articles on this website. I say a few days, because it will take that long to clear your head of what you have been fed by the man stream media to begin to digest what the other side says. I think it will be eye opening for many. This is just one site I read daily. It is not a paid site, you are free to sign up and post if you desire, but read the articles and comments without signing up. I think it would interest all. Articles added all day and "must reads" added every morning.

Lucianne.com News Forum - HomePage

ZZ you are still getting away from my challenge in the fact you lied about me putting out lots of threads about Trump, when apart from this one there has only been one other, this and one more does not make lots of threads, that is what you was supposed to do Seems to me and others reading this as you cant by side stepping it your have failed in the challenge set.

So what's that make you then?

As for The BBC its one of the most respected news sites around the world that although put down by Trump, but then goes to for news as said by him, so yes a really bad site for news, but then loved by the rest of the world, but then also have many reporters living in the USA full time and have there fingers on the US pulse.
But then there are many ways to look at any story and a take on it, so you believe your way and I will stay with my and perhaps one day the to will meet head on telling the same thing.

But do yourself a big favour, never put yourself above anybody else, as to many people have done before you only to fall flat on there faces.

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[TheGreatDivider Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close TheGreatDivider]

Wow, this thread has become a real "shithole" lately.

[not2big Senior Super ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close not2big]

I was listening to the fake tv news stations last night and learned that the Trump agents who testified before the Senate Inteligence Committee were told by the White House staff not to answer any questions about conversations they had subsequent to Trump’s election, including during the transition period prior to Trumps inauguration.

You would think that if the White House/Trump wanted to clear up the “stories”, they would be delighted to Have the agents tell their side. Isn’t executive privilege (as used by Trump) a wonderful thing?

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Obama liked & used it. Much to do with maintaining precedence for that branch of the government.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

You know Now ZMAN does have a point. I have yet to see you or the MSM report on the good things happening here.The rise of the stock market gets no coverage yet it's rise is historic.The low unemployment numbers for blacks and Hispanic have gotten no coverage yet they are at historic lows. Apple announce it is bringing back 35 billion dollars, opening a facility that will employ 25,000 and gave all their employees a $2500. stock offering. Over 2 billion dollars have been given to employees since the tax bill , money in peoples wallets, and yet I see no mention of that in the MSM or in your posts.

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Was it not Mt Trump who asked for help from the Russians live on stage, he states, he never before meeting Putin that he had never had contact with? yes but then he would not have to as he has contacts with Russians that in Putin's pockets from his time in Russia doing the Miss World pageant that was done from there.

These was sent by I think your find by Putin himself, to assist him why he was in Russia, his backdoor to Putin.

Sauce of info The BBC, there a whole article on it.

NOWHARD

Okay Now now that's just plain silly. I saw the speech. He was being sarcastic. Hey Vlad if you have the emails that Hillary deleted ( which he probably does) I'd like to see them. Hey so would at least half of America.

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They can't afford to.

To Dig?

[Holm Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Holm]

Limiting your acknowledgement to one name on the list shows your complete ignorance of the value of multiple disciplines and the value of those to society.

So you think I should have gone down the whole list and taken into regard any Haitian with a local celebrity status? I think not. Their only acknowledged "scientist" was a voodoo priest, dude. That's says enough.

Especially when you add in how we enslaved and killed so many of those natives.

There's a limit to how long one can use that as an excuse. Japan was hit by two nuclear bombs during WWII, and today Hiroshima and Nagasaki are doing a hell of a lot better than any city mostly populated by Africans.

Your forebears enslaved many in thier own countries.

I don't think there's much evidence for that, considering it happened over a thousand years ago. How many would you say we enslaved? Norse people colonized other parts of Europe, but mostly by way of taking land to farm for themselves, or making themselves into a ruling elite and integrating with the local population.

You are fairly accurate about the slaves you brought home, but miss the mark by a huge margin when compared to the shit storms you have enacted around the world including Africa or more accurately South Africa. These countries don't have abchance to lose shit hole status because we won't let them. Shit holes with riches are delibratelybkept shit holes so we can steal from them. Your country included.

Before European colonization, most of Sub-Saharan Africa hadn't even invented the wheel. Most native African languages didn't even have words for measuring, just "much/big/long" and "little/small/short". Despite the hardships that colonization brought to them, from an objective view, they actually benefitted greatly in terms of technological and societal development. You can see that today, as the sub-Saharan African countries that ended European rule the latest, are the countries who are doing the least bad. It is no coincidence that South-Africa, who ended White rule in 1994, is the only sub.-S. country that was capable of hosting a World Cup in football/soccer. So much for being "held down by the evil White man".

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Okay Now now that's just plain silly. I saw the speech. He was being sarcastic. Hey Vlad if you have the emails that Hillary deleted ( which he probably does) I'd like to see them. Hey so would at least half of America.

Was he? Cusp I think you missed a bit out.
Was Trump being sarcastic when he asked Russia to hack Hillary Clinton?
At a press conference on Wednesday, Trump encouraged Russian hackers to cyberattack the U.S. to help him win the election, and was immediately denounced by practically everyone in the political establishment.

This come form here.

https://newrepublic.com/minutes/1356...illary-clinton

But then who knows could be just fake news?

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[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Look at the speech my friend. It's on youtube. Hey wouldn't you want to know what she didn't want us to know?

[closed224 Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2014, Feb 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close closed224]

I think Wikileaks could give them to us also. Yes I would like to see them. However it wouldn't change antibodies mind, nor behaviour. Even when exposed neither side cleans anything up. The supporters make excuses the opponents detract. We pretend it doesn't matter how many were enslaved nor killed nor tortured as long as the remainder of thebpopulation can tell an inch or a centimeter. The beat goes on.

[closed155 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close closed155]

It must be me. I don't want to know all those things. And what can I do about it? Stop Hillary writing emails, give the Russians more to think about than meddling in the affairs of another country. All I can do is limited, but I can behave according to my beliefs and not try to change others as it is basically futile. Yes, the beat does go on, with me or without me.

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Cusp I cant get to the bottom of it yet But I think your find there in two separate meetings the Clinton emails because he also asked wikileak's for help in finding them and him asking for Russian help him to win so that makes 3.

It all jumps about a lot.

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[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

I would have done the same thing. Hillary took government records and deleted them. They weren''t hers; they were mine and the rest of he country.She had no right to keep them unsafe and no right to delete them.If Wikileaks produced them then not only would we see what we deserved to see but the country would see what everyone else, including the Russians, saw when they hacked into her unsecured server.