How is porn fake?

[inquisitiveness Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close inquisitiveness]

How is porn fake?

I am not talking about the porn movies with scenes and cuts.

I am talking about websites where they have shots of porn stars having raw sex.

As in, they are recording with camcorder.

For example, <porn link removed>.

It looks real to me.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

It's fake because it's all staged. Just like wrestling.

[closed291 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Member of the Month June 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close closed291]

It's fake because it's all staged. Just like wrestling.

Wrestling is real to me!

Yes, I agree. Porn is staged to the utmost.

[inquisitiveness Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close inquisitiveness]

I disagree.

I am not talking about the staged porn/movies.

I have seen amateur porn on PornHub where it was the 2 couples and a cam. These seem to be the new trend of porn coming out and it looks very authentic.

[WhiteMorpheousLaVey88 Member Find all posts View Profile Close WhiteMorpheousLaVey88]

You can't tell if porn is fake or not because you'd have to read the pornstars minds to know their intent on faking it or not.

[Party Senior Member Member of the Month August 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Party]

If I watch porn, it’s amateur. And if that camera starts moving around by itself, it’s staged and I turn it off. There lots of amateur porn out there that are really just demos of guys and gals trying to break into the business. Idiots.

[inquisitiveness Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close inquisitiveness]

With the rise of pornhub community, you can get paid for your own pornographic material without ever having to break into the biz.

>You can't tell if porn is fake or not because you'd have to read the pornstars minds to know their intent on faking it or not.

You can behaviorally tell.

[incogneeetoe Moderator Member of the Month Sept 2017*Special Appreciated Moderator Nov. 2021* PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close incogneeetoe]

Take the wrestling analogy a little further:

The professional wrestlers are putting on a show. The match you see on TV has been choreographed carefully over a series of days. The two guys have worked together a great deal to be able to put on that staged fight. A lot of what they do is "real" in the sense that it is rough and hard. They hit each other. But they know how to do it so that the damage is minimal and the effect is maximized for the camera.

The porn industry, having taken into account the ongoing complaint that it looks fake, is now doing the same thing. By using the "amateur" approach they can lure you in, making you think it is real. But if it is well lighted, easily heard and well framed in the camera, it is probably staged. The sex may be actually happening, but it has been choreographed for the camera to make it look good. The girls "flaws" are de-emphasized and the mans "attributes" and framed to look much better.

[Dr. Bateman Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Dr. Bateman]

Take the wrestling analogy a little further:

The professional wrestlers are putting on a show. The match you see on TV has been choreographed carefully over a series of days. The two guys have worked together a great deal to be able to put on that staged fight. A lot of what they do is "real" in the sense that it is rough and hard. They hit each other. But they know how to do it so that the damage is minimal and the effect is maximized for the camera.

The porn industry, having taken into account the ongoing complaint that it looks fake, is now doing the same thing. By using the "amateur" approach they can lure you in, making you think it is real. But if it is well lighted, easily heard and well framed in the camera, it is probably staged. The sex may be actually happening, but it has been choreographed for the camera to make it look good. The girls "flaws" are de-emphasized and the mans "attributes" and framed to look much better.

I agree here with Incognito, the wrestling analogy is perfect.

The whole amateur thing has always been a bit bullshit in my mind, even more so now. They industry is making the "Pro" stuff look like the "Homemade" stuff because they'd be idiots not to get in on the action. They know lots of people enjoy that stuff. There's alot of stuff that's all for show on there. And even sometimes while cameras are rolling, the actors/actresses cannot take it anymore and you can see them not fully cooperate with their co-star and BAM! camera cuts...

Personally don't like "amateur" stuff, never have. I like my porn how it should be, unrealistic, it's already fake anyway.
"Why play with the little change when you can go for the big dollar???"

[techiephobia Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close techiephobia]

I didn't even notice the "amateur" stuff I was watching was fake until I see this post. LOL

[inquisitiveness Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close inquisitiveness]

Take the wrestling analogy a little further:

The professional wrestlers are putting on a show. The match you see on TV has been choreographed carefully over a series of days. The two guys have worked together a great deal to be able to put on that staged fight. A lot of what they do is "real" in the sense that it is rough and hard. They hit each other. But they know how to do it so that the damage is minimal and the effect is maximized for the camera.

The porn industry, having taken into account the ongoing complaint that it looks fake, is now doing the same thing. By using the "amateur" approach they can lure you in, making you think it is real. But if it is well lighted, easily heard and well framed in the camera, it is probably staged. The sex may be actually happening, but it has been choreographed for the camera to make it look good. The girls "flaws" are de-emphasized and the mans "attributes" and framed to look much better.

I can't see it.

To go with this analogy.

Modern amateur porn would be like UFC.

Although it is staged, the fight is real.

Extrapolated into porn.

The setting its staged but the sex is real.

I have several examples from a porn streaming site, may I share?

I just can't see the phoniness in the scenes at all.

I can see the phoniness is actual porn movies/scenes/etc but not modern day websites such as <porno site>.
But I really want to know if I am being deceived or not.

I have no personal heuristics to compare to because I never had sex before.

[incogneeetoe Moderator Member of the Month Sept 2017*Special Appreciated Moderator Nov. 2021* PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close incogneeetoe]

I have no personal heuristics to compare to because I never had sex before.

Ok, there is the thing. Real sex is awkward, impromptu and silly. The sounds you make, the looks on the faces are all kinda funny. The "amateur" stuff that I have seen tends to be a little to organized.

[Dr. Bateman Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Dr. Bateman]

I can't see it.

To go with this analogy.

Modern amateur porn would be like UFC.

Although it is staged, the fight is real.

Extrapolated into porn.

The setting its staged but the sex is real.

I have several examples from a porn streaming site, may I share?

I just can't see the phoniness in the scenes at all.

I can see the phoniness is actual porn movies/scenes/etc but not modern day websites such as <porno site>.
But I really want to know if I am being deceived or not.

I have no personal heuristics to compare to because I never had sex before.

I guess the best answer I can provide for you is: No, porn is not 100% fake. Yes, sex is like that to a certain extent, depending on how open-minded your partner is. But there are also ALOT of things that are pure bullshit and done for acting purposes.

In my honest opinion, it's about 50/50.

[TheGreatDivider Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close TheGreatDivider]

Have you had much experience having sex, OP? If you haven't then porn is going to seem much more real. But once you have sex at least a dozen or so times then porn acting is going to appear fake. It's a bit like watching a dramatized fight scene instead of two people trying to mutually scratch an itch.

[inquisitiveness Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close inquisitiveness]

I thought couples make appointments/plans to have sex.

For example, "we will go out Friday night and then make love afterwards."