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  • #16
    Originally posted by djmotion View Post
    Increasing to harder genres is a sign that porn is an addiction same as other stuff. With drugs people can start on weed and progress to cocaine, etc. Hence why weed is known as a gateway drug. People don't realize how addictive it is until they try and quit and then they try to make every excuse in the book that it's fine to watch it.
    This is a common theme. It also causes a further break from reality, and those who all into the trap of attempting to satisfy the tastes they've developed from delving into more hardcore porn often regret it.

    Some of this is discussed in detail here: The Detraining Effect: Understanding and Reversing Negative Habits To Improve Erection Quality and Sexual Confidence
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    • #17
      Originally posted by djmotion View Post
      The fact that one needs to use it as a libido lifter is a bad thing. A man should be able to get turned on by sensation and thought alone, if one can't get hard without porn, he has porn-induced erectile dysfunction. The thing simply isn't good for someone even used in moderation. People make every excuse under the sun to watch it and still don't realize how addictive it is.
      DJM wait till you 72 then remember what you said here, as a libido lifter its very good.

      And by the way I have low T, which is another story, something else for you to look forward to at 72, and you cant bypass it.

      NOWHARD

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Big Al View Post
        This is a common theme. It also causes a further break from reality, and those who all into the trap of attempting to satisfy the tastes they've developed from delving into more hardcore porn often regret it.

        Some of this is discussed in detail here: The Detraining Effect: Understanding and Reversing Negative Habits To Improve Erection Quality and Sexual Confidence
        Yep and the effect it has on relationships too. I have a female friend who says that her bf (was together about 1-2 years at this point) watches porn and even when she's in the other room. At first she said it doesn't bother her but then she admitted that it does annoy her sometimes. This girl is absolutely stunning and even with my addiction to porn I couldn't understand why he feels the need to watch it with a gf that looks like her.

        She says that he would quit it if she asked him too but I highly doubt it, he would more than likely just hide it from her. It's a trainwreck waiting to happen. I think I could quit porn easily if I had a gf whom I love but being single it's extremely difficult.
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        • #19
          So DJM your into porn then, I think I could quit porn easily if I had a gf whom I love but being single it's extremely difficult. yet tell others to quit, I find that very confusing and you must now have others thinking the same.

          NOWHARD

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          • #20
            I gave it up years ago. It was a great decision for me. However, in NowHards case I can see that being a problem in terms of not using it for a libido. It’s really relative for some people. Not all but some. It didn’t do well for me so I opted to leave it alone. If you have the ability partition your brain in that way, then it wouldn’t effect you on the same level. NowHard isn’t consuming it, he’s just using it for a purpose and leaves it alone.
            Start 9/30/18: NPBEL - 7.14" / MSEG - 5.25" - BEG - 5.5"/ EQ - 7/10 / BPEL - 8.15"

            Current: NBPEL - 7.5" / MSEG - 5.45" - BEG - 5.75" / EQ - 8/10 / BPEL - 8.5"

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            • #21
              Originally posted by NOWHARD View Post
              So DJM your into porn then, I think I could quit porn easily if I had a gf whom I love but being single it's extremely difficult. yet tell others to quit, I find that very confusing and you must now have others thinking the same.

              NOWHARD
              I don't have a gf that's my point. When I have had gfs I never used porn because I was always with them having sex. Being single makes it far more difficult to quit.
              Start: BPEL - 7.008", MEG - 5.197"
              Current: BPEL - 7.126", MEG - 5.118"

              Goal: BPEL - 9", MEG - 6.5"

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              • #22
                Originally posted by djmotion View Post
                Yep and the effect it has on relationships too. I have a female friend who says that her bf (was together about 1-2 years at this point) watches porn and even when she's in the other room. At first she said it doesn't bother her but then she admitted that it does annoy her sometimes. This girl is absolutely stunning and even with my addiction to porn I couldn't understand why he feels the need to watch it with a gf that looks like her.

                She says that he would quit it if she asked him too but I highly doubt it, he would more than likely just hide it from her. It's a trainwreck waiting to happen. I think I could quit porn easily if I had a gf whom I love but being single it's extremely difficult.
                She may be gorgeous, but if he’s truly addicted it wouldn’t matter because he hasn’t come to terms with that he has an issue. He can’t see what she does. He’s in his own world when he’s watching porn. Where I’m from I’ve seen the effects of crack and heroin. I’ve seen how people will completely abandon their children to go get high and don’t even realize the effect that has on them. So like any other addiction, you become stuck in that world and the longer it goes, the harder it can be to come back. Not impossible though.
                Start 9/30/18: NPBEL - 7.14" / MSEG - 5.25" - BEG - 5.5"/ EQ - 7/10 / BPEL - 8.15"

                Current: NBPEL - 7.5" / MSEG - 5.45" - BEG - 5.75" / EQ - 8/10 / BPEL - 8.5"

                Goal: NPBEL - 9.5" / MSEG - 6.5" - BEG - 7" / EQ 10/10 BPEL - 11"

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                • #23
                  Nothing is wrong with Pornography if you know the limits. Same for everything.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Qloz View Post
                    Nothing is wrong with Pornography if you know the limits. Same for everything.
                    Pornography is essentially virtual voyeurism, lurking and cuckholding. It took me a while to understand that.

                    I always felt that it was wrong and felt shame after finishing, unlike when I masturbated without porn when I didn't have that sense of guilt. I wouldn't masturbate to people having sex in front of me or to a girl pleasuring herself in a real life situation.

                    If there's nothing wrong about those things for you that good for you man. To each his own.
                    There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by MasterSchlort View Post
                      Pornography is essentially virtual voyeurism, lurking and cuckholding. It took me a while to understand that.

                      I always felt that it was wrong and felt shame after finishing, unlike when I masturbated without porn when I didn't have that sense of guilt. I wouldn't masturbate to people having sex in front of me or to a girl pleasuring herself in a real life situation.

                      If there's nothing wrong about those things for you that good for you man. To each his own.
                      To each his own, Good answer MS, better than others telling us how bad it is and so on. me I have been watching porn on and off since the mid 60's, in fact I worked with a guy who filmed it, so that was my first porn on a cine projector, the good old days, now I like to watch what's now called retro porn, just guys and girls having straight sex, its more fun.

                      NOWHARD

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by djmotion View Post
                        I don't have a gf that's my point. When I have had gfs I never used porn because I was always with them having sex. Being single makes it far more difficult to quit.
                        Yes Yes DJM, end of the day you still watch porn, so don't preach to others not to.

                        NOWHARD

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by NOWHARD View Post
                          Yes Yes DJM, end of the day you still watch porn, so don't preach to others not to.

                          NOWHARD
                          You don't have to succeed at something to give others advice you know. There are 1000s of men that will also say that porn is bad for you. Some of them completely quit, some of them still trying. Just because I've struggled to quit when I'm single, it doesn't mean my point is invalid. Don't believe me? Head over to NoFap and ask the people who have quit for years, although the people who have quit are mostly married but you will find the odd guy who has completely quit PMO for over a year without having sex, it's a really difficult thing to do.
                          Start: BPEL - 7.008", MEG - 5.197"
                          Current: BPEL - 7.126", MEG - 5.118"

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                          • #28
                            Porn is a visual experience and shocking at times. I can watch porn, just look at it, but I am totally detached from whatever I am looking at. As someone said before, I can imagine sex and get release in the shower. Talking about sex to me is more stimulating like when I talk to my wife while having sex. Harder! Faster! That is a turn on.

                            Viewing porn can be a learning experience too. To each his own, and i can see that it could be addictive. Glad to see there is help and support for some who want to quit.

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                            • #29
                              Smart choice, I don't know if you experienced any porn-induced erectile dysfunction but I know you don't want that ether. I found it out the hard way what porn can do to your head at age 23 and it took me 6 more months before I archived my first orgasm just from intercourse.

                              Many years past, trying to juggle porn and sex and finding a balance but 17 month ago I cut porn down drastically to just the basics and for the past 5-6 months I haven't watched it at all.
                              Some small (big for me) achievements that came after quitting:
                              I can now achieve orgasm form just having sex, almost every time!!
                              First ever "no visualization" orgasm.
                              First ever orgasm from doggy style (Prier I would lose EQ).
                              First ever standing orgasm (Prier I would lose EQ).
                              Morning wood every day!
                              Overall much better control of EQ during sex and especially doing PE.
                              Going from zero to fully erect in a jiff.
                              Horney much more frequently.

                              It such a relief, I will never be watching any porn again and I am also glad that I cut down on fapping with ejaculation (still edge some) to 3-6 days and then with only the lightest grip, It has really helped me.

                              I asked myself, what can Porn do for me?
                              The answer is nothing and not realizing it earlier is a shame...

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                              • #30
                                I also lose EQ when I go from sitting to standing or in doggystyle. Goes from 100% down to about 80%, think porn and masturbation are what causes this.
                                Start: BPEL - 7.008", MEG - 5.197"
                                Current: BPEL - 7.126", MEG - 5.118"

                                Goal: BPEL - 9", MEG - 6.5"

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