The Ideal Penis as seen by experienced women

[thenewdude Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close thenewdude]

Ideal size for a penis would have to be experienced for a woman to rely determine unless it is for being pleasing to the eye (visual stimulation). If a woman says that 7X5.5 is ideal and never has experienced that size during intercourse, she really would not know so it only counts for visual when in fact it might not be ideal at all when tried (perhaps not long enough or too long and same for girth). It's just like you have a body like Arnie back in the day and it looks good to her and attached her to you but when you hold her for the first time, it makes her feel as if you are crushing her because you are too big. Visual and physical stimulation are two entirely diverse things.

[dejaview Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dejaview]

We cant get beyond the fact that although this "documentary" has some voyeuristic interest at best, what actual value does it hold in the
"REAL WORLD" ?
This is made for TV folks. Meant to wow and amaze us as a whole new world is revealed before our eyes. Would it have the same shock and awe effect to the average male if those very ladies fashioned "perfect cocks" of average size. Where would the ratings sit then for this show?. Not very good I can safely bet . What would be the point in doing that from a commercial standpoint ?.
Shows like this one are not meant to comfort or placate the "average" male viewer. They exist to touch or more aptly prod the the ever prescient insecurity of penis size in the male psyche. Have a bit of a laugh at the guys or in this case ...lads in the UK. This will only toughen them up and put in them in their place. For those fellas that sit though it and walk away feeling like an ephipany has befallen them, I say dont be so gullible and naive.
To base your whole identity and resulting self esteem on this misguided sensationalistic broadcasting would be very sad. Ultimately this show is standard issue nonsense that nobody should take with anything more than a grain of the finest salt.

[Gorgodzilla Member Find all posts View Profile Close Gorgodzilla]

Exactly. This is what I don't understand about these things. You can ask women what their ideal penis is and maybe it's a bit larger than average and men get all up in arms. Ask them what their ideal body type on a guy is and it's probably equally unattainable, maybe 6'4" 235, and absolutely chiseled, something maybe 2% of us could ever attain, and noone bats an eye. It doesn't make sense really. I'm sure if you got a group of guys together and gave them a computer program to craft the ideal female body it would make 95% of females insecure about themselves too.

Man, I dont know where you come from, but where I live, 95% of women would simply get scared by a 6"4, 235 pound guy, chiselled. Ask around ! I'm 5ft11, well built and I already have many girls saying to me that I shouldn't put on any more muscle mass. I think men tend to have a "the more the better" philosophy when it comes to muscle mass / PE and that's not always in line with women's desire.

[Gorgodzilla Member Find all posts View Profile Close Gorgodzilla]

In fact I even met a girl once that said to me : "there's nothing more sexy than a very slim guy, it's just so viril". Viril, in her mind, means "i'm too cool to waste my time working out".


Let me tell you that I thought she was absolutely out of her mind, but she wasnt. Athletic, underwear model like bodies were basically a turn off for her. True story. Very sad.

[Vlad Member Find all posts View Profile Close Vlad]

Here's a link to another documentary:

Louis Theroux and the Brothel - YouTube

At 14:54 minute, a prostitute states what she thinks to be the average size penis.

[TheSperminator Member of the Month Oct 12 Find all posts View Profile Close TheSperminator]

Thanks for the link! Great documentary!

Ahhh women... The girls sculpting their ideal penis all create a monstruous cock! It's at least 7 inches long and 5,5 inches thick (if not more... some might have been 7 inches thick)... So what does that tell us? That women have ABSOLUTELY no idea about a guy's penis size? Yeah maybe... But they really have no idea about what THEY WANT!

They're all laughing saying: "this is the penis I'd like to have sex with for a one night stand! But no pressure really... I'm in a relationship with a guy... this sculpture is just the penis i'd like to fuck!" So no pressure on men by women?
WTF??? Really?

And this guy having surgery even though he's already 7 inches long and 6 inches thick! But he got laughed at by his former girlfriends...
I really feel small right now... :/

It reminds me of my last girlfriend who told me I was "ok" when she was talking about my size. Then I told her I was 18cm long and she was like : "NO WAY!!! 18cm is huuuuge!!! You're way smaller!" And I just replied: "nope... I'm really 18cm long, I measured it to buy condoms"
Long silence followed...

What is wrong with girls nowadays? Not to sound sexist, but I knew girls had a problem with "space" so they would have trouble guessing the size of a penis, but still... That woman in the documentary saying that she was with this guy and he had such a small penis... And then she says it was probably 4 or 5 inches... Yeah... No wonder why his boyfriend wants to have a surgery to enhance his already huge dick (for me, 7 inches might not be huge, just big, but the combination of 7 inches length with 6 inches thickness is HUGE!).

Ahah... I'm kinda depressed now

PS: And I'm not even talking about the nurses saying Jarod has a small penis... They're nurses, aren't they supposed to have seen several penises already? Aren't they supposed to know what is the average? I don't understand...

This is why I've joined the PEgym and want that big cock .. Even if they don't have an idea about size they still visualize their ideal dick .. And that's almost always a big cock. I want the O-face from a girl when I take my pants off. And I won't stop PEing untill i'm surely over 8 inches and have 6 inches girth. That's my minimumgoal..

And I know the visual aspect isn't everything but I don't know it's just me I guess .. I really want her to say OMG .. Having a huge cock isn't everything but it would give me so many benefits in my life .. Just the confidence alone .. Hell I think it would be fun to just fool some girls around telling you're an ex-pornstar etc
Increased health sexually is also an important issue for me, harder erections, more blood in my dick, ..

-Brain

[malehanger Banned Find all posts View Profile Close malehanger]

It's fun to watch things like this. However, I don't take the "advice" or knowledge from them for any value. Shows like this are designed to be ratings friendly. They're supposed to contain "edgy" and "emotional" content so more people will watch them. Especially men with penis size insecurities. I'm into working out for physical fitness as another example, and have a decent grasp on training and sports nutrition. I would not walk into a GNC and take advice from the chubby guy behind the counter who's only real interest is selling me a couple tubs of protein powder while he simply regurgitates some "knowledge" he read from the latest issue of "XYZ Bodybuilding Magazine"....while he himself looks like he spends his evenings in front of the television snacking on chili-cheese fries.

[TheSperminator Member of the Month Oct 12 Find all posts View Profile Close TheSperminator]

Hahaha just watched it, the documentary .. That guy has some serieus issues, with his 7X6 dick .. If a girl (he even said girlfriendS (!)) calls that small .. I mean serious? What is she (are they) used to then? 8x7 inchers who bang the shit out of her (them) every night?

If you're not able to say to yourself i'm well above average with a 7x6, you've got issues. He really thinks sex is all about the size of the male penis, The bigger the better. What a douche sorry for the language but I can't believe such things..

Sure a big cock is great for your ego, I also want a big cock .. But there's also a mental connection between two lovers, wich can be way more powerfull than the size of ones dick.

-Brains

[Vlad Member Find all posts View Profile Close Vlad]

Regarding the point that documentaries are aimed to boost ratings and therefore should be taken with a pinch of salt, I think the same logic can also be applied to some extent to scientific studies. Scientific research is often funded by people with an interest in those positive results. That is apparently why there is no scientific study confirming that penile exercises work, as opposed to extenders.

And from the point of view of the researcher, who does not want his study to be sensational, which will bring him the prospect of fame and career advancement?

Regarding the second documentary, I would say prostitutes do know a thing or two about penises. Afterall, not only have they seen more penises than any of us here, they have also probably spent more time in total stroking them. It would be sexist to suggest that women have a very poor idea about size: most if not all must have used a ruler in their life. Further, imagine an eye-witness giving evidence in a murder trial, describing the size of the knife with which the victim was stabbed. Should you believe the evidence any less simply because the witness happens to be a woman?

[Stumpy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Stumpy]

It would be sexist to suggest that women have a very poor idea about size: most if not all must have used a ruler in their life. Further, imagine an eye-witness giving evidence in a murder trial, describing the size of the knife with which the victim was stabbed. Should you believe the evidence any less simply because the witness happens to be a woman?

Interestingly, spatial recognition is one of the few areas where there is generalised agreement of a difference between the genders. Men generally have stronger spatial awareness and recognition.

The ability to read maps is one area where we see that difference play out ... the ability to accurately compare and estimate the size of objects may be an extension of that.

[chodeboy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close chodeboy]

Here's a link to another documentary:

Louis Theroux and the Brothel - YouTube

At 14:54 minute, a prostitute states what she thinks to be the average size penis.

Shit according to that prostitute, my erection is the size of a pinky.... lol either she is a giant.... with a 6.5x6 pinky,or what she says isnt right lol

[Lavio Member Find all posts View Profile Close Lavio]

Look, while I do believe there ARE preferred sizes, you can't really put much into a situation where women sculpt their preferred cock. Come on.

Sculpt the perfect tits, then sculpt the perfect ass. You'll make the most perfect tits you've ever seen, probably more perfect than you've ever seen in your life and that ass will be out of this world.

But what if you meet a girl and she has about half as good of that ass and tits? Will you turn her down? Will she be "lacking", will you laugh at her and make fun of her? Of course not. Because you're a reasonable and rational person that understands that we are normal people built in a normal fasion, we're not fairytale kings and queens.

So more than anything, that situation where they sculpted cocks is just a playful situation that shouldn't be taken too seriously. Have in mind that women have to endure MUUUCH more pressure from society about their appearance. Everything from what they wear, how their face looks, how their hair looks, how skinny they are and what ass/tits/legs/lips they have.. They are insecure about so many things and society CONSTANTLY throws it in their face. Don't put too much into it guys, you're more so showing your insecurity than anything else. It's just like those women out there that are insecure about EVERYTHING, they're very unattractive because they whine too much and wear their heart on their sleeve. They're probably adequate fine, but their insecurities are so evident, that you don't even want to associate with them.

You're being the male equivalents of those women, when you whine about situations like these. Let it slide, it's not a big deal. You wanting a bigger cock should be for you and for what you believe it does to your sex life, but with that said you shouldn't put THAT much into it, as if your penis is a crutch for your overall well being.

[TTBB Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close TTBB]

I thought you might be interested in this BBC documentary called "My Penis and Everyone Else's":

My Penis and Everyone Else’s | Watch Free Documentary Online

At 12:38 a group of young women are asked to model their ideal penis using clay. The models all measured at least 7 inches in length. By the women's own admission, they are thrilled by a big penis, but of course that is not the be all and end all, and it is apparently of more importance in casual relationships.

This documentary is the sequel to "My Penis and I", which can be watched here:

My Penis and I on Vimeo

The filmmaker has a 3.5 inch penis erect and has made peace with it through making the films. I don't doubt his good faith and he is not trying to sell products.

I think the fact the ladies knew that it was going to be broadcast to the world and they were doing it in a group would have influenced the end results of the clay penises.

[Jelqinator Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jelqinator]

I think (Or I hope) that most of the girls in this were just the wrong type of woman, but my heart did sink a little when those women were crafting 8x6 dicks as their ideal.

EDIT: I'm surprised there isn't more talk on his short lived experimentation with enlargement options. He literally pumps for about 40 seconds then says "Nah not for me".

[Lavio Member Find all posts View Profile Close Lavio]

Let's put it like this:

Let us define what the word "matters" means in "size matters". Does it mean that "if a man doesn't have this cock, Im not sleeping with him" or does it mean that "yeah, there IS a difference in pleasure between cock of size X and cock of size Y". I think the latter.

So, IF size matters (which it does, duh) and IF women in general feel like a 8x6 dick is ideal, does that make someone that doesn't have that, worthless?

No, it just means you don't have the ideal cock. Big fucking whoop. I bet the women in the video (haven't watched it) don't have the ideal lips, ass, tits or legs. But let's be honest, we do have preferences in those categories, so clearly "lips/ass/tits/legs matter".

It's all in how you chose to interpret the terms.