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    So one of my friends (who's a girl) has a crush on this guy. She came up to me and asked me what she should do. Then I started explaining how I flirt with girls I like. I found that I have a pretty well developed way of attracting women. Here goes:

    1. Focus on making yourself happy.
    2. Flirt with everyone.
    3. Assume physical closeness.
    4. Direct, honest, concise communication.
    5. No targets.

    1. Focus on making yourself happy.
    If you focus on your own happiness, it will really show. This is attractive. Also realize that other people are, or should be, focused on their own happiness as well. If you feel you are intruding on their happiness, ie- your presence is making them uneasy, then go away. Find someone else who wants to be around you, or at least doesn't mind your presence.

    2. Flirt with everyone.
    I flirt with everyone. Absolutely everyone. Men, women, ugly girls, you name it. The main premise here is, flirting makes people feel good. When I make people feel good, my work is done. Flirting does not have to lead to sex, and 99.9% of the time it doesn't. What it does show, though, is that I'm attentive to other people, and other people like to be around me.
    Also, if you flirt with everyone indiscriminately, girls who are interested in you will start to wonder if you're flirting with them because you like them, or if you just flirt with everyone. This causes confusion on their part, which is good for attraction; it means they're thinking about you! Flirt, hug, cuddle, snuggle, hold hands with everyone. Not only will you feel loved and appreciated, but you are helping them feel loved and appreciated as well.
    And then you're also creating strong attraction in those who are interested in you, by confusing them. This is only a by-product of maintaining your own happiness, and making sure everyone else gets the love and affection they need as well. Creating confusion should not be your goal; it should be something that just kind of happens. The way I see it is, I'm just being myself, they are confusing themselves. In this sense, they are responsible for creating their own confusion. Same goes for me.

    3. Assume physical closeness.
    Usually if you hold your arms open for a hug, people will hug you. People generally welcome physical affection when it is offered. Some people don't, so be sure to respect their boundaries if they tell/show you so. (see #1 above) Also, assume physical closeness with everyone: men, women, everyone. (see #2 above)
    Hugs make people feel good. Nuzzling (rubbing your cheek or nose against theirs), holding hands, interlacing fingers, intertwining legs... these are all things that generate physical intimacy and feelings of closeness, that can be easily assumed. If the other person is uncomfortable with it, they will try to distance themselves at the first opportunity. Give them every opportunity to get away, don't hold them or trap them. Trapping them will make them resent you, make them more uncomfortable, and again you'd be intruding on their happiness.

    4. Direct, honest, concise communication.
    How will people know what you want, if you don't tell them? If you like something, say it. It will be more likely to happen again if they know you like it. My favorite thing to say now is, "I like that."
    For example, a woman comes up to me, puts her hand on my chest and runs her hand down my stomach. Me: "I like that."
    A woman comes up from behind me, gives me a hug and a kiss on the cheek. Me: "Ooh, I like that. That should happen more often."
    A woman dancing with me, does a slow spin and circles her hips, accentuating her ass. Me: *fan my face with my hand* OR *slap her butt* (depending on how well we know each other)

    5. No targets.
    Don't go into a place and single out any particular person that you want to chase after. Once that person figures out that they're a target, they will try to get away. The way I think about it is, be the candle that attracts all the moths. Some of them will be attracted to you, others won't; choose from those that fly towards you. Direct your attention and affection towards everyone in general. Those who are most aggressive and assertive will appear first. If you're not attracted to them, keep flirting with them, but don't advance. The more shy ones will be attracted by the attention you're getting and are coming soon.
    Starting (3/14/2011) = 5" x 4"
    Current (7/16/2013) = 5.75" x 4.125"

    Short-Term Goal = BPEL 6"
    Long-Term Goal = 7.5" x 5.5"

  • #2
    "I like that" how simple and effective. Good one.
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    • #3
      I've always just focused on coming across as friendly and direct. There's always a way to find out if someone you know is available. I've used "lines" such as "your boyfriend (no ring on her finger) is SO lucky!". Usually a girl will correct you with "oh I don't have a boyfriend" or something similar.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ThirdArm View Post
        "I like that" how simple and effective. Good one.
        I used another phrase last night, in conjunction with "I like that."

        I was holding hands with a woman, she began lightly caressing my arm with her fingers. It felt really good and made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up.

        I said, "Ooh, I like that. Do that again."

        And she did.
        Starting (3/14/2011) = 5" x 4"
        Current (7/16/2013) = 5.75" x 4.125"

        Short-Term Goal = BPEL 6"
        Long-Term Goal = 7.5" x 5.5"

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Qarzan View Post
          I used another phrase last night, in conjunction with "I like that."

          I was holding hands with a woman, she began lightly caressing my arm with her fingers. It felt really good and made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up.

          I said, "Ooh, I like that. Do that again."

          And she did.
          I used to say that... somehow my language has gone caveman with my girlfriend and those phrases have been replaced with almost childish demands like

          "More."
          or
          "Another."

          Works for us, but I would not recommend one word comments like this outside of a long term relationship.

          Note that this isn't flirting or anything though...
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          Last edited by CaptainJohnson; 03-29-2012, 01:49 PM.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by malehanger View Post
            I've always just focused on coming across as friendly and direct. There's always a way to find out if someone you know is available. I've used "lines" such as "your boyfriend (no ring on her finger) is SO lucky!". Usually a girl will correct you with "oh I don't have a boyfriend" or something similar.
            I've found that bringing up the "boyfriend" topic is kind of moot. She's either willing to be with you or not. If she's in an exclusive relationship, she will stop you or go away before things go too far.

            Because, who knows, maybe she has a boyfriend, but it's an open relationship. I just move forward and stop when she applies the brakes.
            Starting (3/14/2011) = 5" x 4"
            Current (7/16/2013) = 5.75" x 4.125"

            Short-Term Goal = BPEL 6"
            Long-Term Goal = 7.5" x 5.5"

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Qarzan View Post
              I've found that bringing up the "boyfriend" topic is kind of moot. She's either willing to be with you or not. If she's in an exclusive relationship, she will stop you or go away before things go too far.

              Because, who knows, maybe she has a boyfriend, but it's an open relationship. I just move forward and stop when she applies the brakes.
              Agreed. A mature girl in a healthy relationship will tell you if she has a boyfriend on her own. If you are walking on egg shells, worried about her boyfriend, then you are making your intention of wanting her clear. Frankly, I prefer to have a girl chase me. The boyfriend is her concern, and that is where I leave it. Don't make someone else's problems your problem If she wants to be immature and hide her boyfriend, its not my fault. I'll find out when I do and do the right thing when I can.
              "If you want a log you need to keep a log." - Tinkerbell
              "I wish I was average height with average hand size." - thenewdude

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              • #8
                ^This topic raises some questions on my end. I'll start a new thread.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CaptainJohnson View Post
                  I used to say that... somehow my language has gone caveman with my girlfriend and those phrases have been replaced with almost childish demands like

                  "More."
                  or
                  "Another."

                  Works for us, but I would not recommend one word comments like this outside of a long term relationship.

                  Note that this isn't flirting or anything though...
                  Hmm, this post made me think. Maybe if I use these really short commands, it will create more intimacy. Short utterances tend to reflect greater intimacy and familiarity, maybe using these can create it where it didn't exist before. What do you think?
                  Starting (3/14/2011) = 5" x 4"
                  Current (7/16/2013) = 5.75" x 4.125"

                  Short-Term Goal = BPEL 6"
                  Long-Term Goal = 7.5" x 5.5"

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                  • #10
                    Well, what works for some....

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                    • #11
                      great thread, summarizing the whole gaming community in a "few" lines! +rep
                      how would you get one girl home with you in the end since you are flirting with everyone? just wait until one of them are so clingy that you could kiss them with no trouble and just ask if they wanna come to your place (or pull the 'just so you know i have a tiny penis' line i saw somewhere in the forum)?
                      Initial measurements: 16x11 cm
                      Current measurements 18x12,5
                      Long term goal: 20x16 cm

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Long Dong Silver View Post
                        great thread, summarizing the whole gaming community in a "few" lines! +rep
                        how would you get one girl home with you in the end since you are flirting with everyone? just wait until one of them are so clingy that you could kiss them with no trouble and just ask if they wanna come to your place (or pull the 'just so you know i have a tiny penis' line i saw somewhere in the forum)?
                        If you have come out on top, and there are a few women around who you've flirted with whom are interested in you, then it should be easy enough.

                        Women can get a bit competitive, but more than that, they watch what other women like. The more one girl finds you attractive, the more another girl will pick up on that and feel the same. Guys do this too. With guys, I often call it the Megan Foxx Effect, since I don't find Megan Foxx hot but most of my friends do.

                        Something I think you are missing, Long Dong, is the idea of this endless flirting isn't to get into just anyone's pants... its to get the girl you want most. If your goal is a relationship, casual sex, or multiple casual partners, you should be able to maturely choose who you want to spend your time with.

                        Would you have it any other way?
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                        "I wish I was average height with average hand size." - thenewdude

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                        • #13
                          ah love the Megan Foxx comparison, shes an 8 at best. i think my question didnt get through poorly written i think. if you find a girl is interested enough to take her home, would you just ask her straight forward or would you nudge her in that direction with becoming more and more physical, assuming you want a one-nighter. and am I correct with saying this is more of a long term commitment, becoming almost sub famous in the area? would peacocking help? (even though we have the opposite of a pea-cock ) also how would you handle a situation where your in a smaller town with around 500 active people and your ex is friends with half of the bunch, which bleeds over a little to the other half considering her friends friends becomes reluctant too. I and the ex are on decent terms also, but she will think im a real asshole when i start screwing around thanks for your answers previous and following, and again great thread!
                          Initial measurements: 16x11 cm
                          Current measurements 18x12,5
                          Long term goal: 20x16 cm

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Long Dong Silver View Post
                            ah love the Megan Foxx comparison, shes an 8 at best. i think my question didnt get through poorly written i think. if you find a girl is interested enough to take her home, would you just ask her straight forward or would you nudge her in that direction with becoming more and more physical, assuming you want a one-nighter. and am I correct with saying this is more of a long term commitment, becoming almost sub famous in the area? would peacocking help? (even though we have the opposite of a pea-cock ) also how would you handle a situation where your in a smaller town with around 500 active people and your ex is friends with half of the bunch, which bleeds over a little to the other half considering her friends friends becomes reluctant too. I and the ex are on decent terms also, but she will think im a real asshole when i start screwing around thanks for your answers previous and following, and again great thread!
                            Question 1: It depends on the girl how blunt you will be. Regardless, you should always increase how physical you are with her, and eventually it will be clear you guys need some privacy. Just invite her home if you guys have already made out. Don't ask (asking is weak), just say "Lets go back to my place" and you will be fine. If this wasn't a sexual environment and no kiss or heavy touching happened (say, not a club bar with friends), the "Lets go back to my place" can still work, but for show, you can make it something more discreet. I have often ended up talking about favourite movies at some point in time with friends/girls/anyone. Find a movie you both like that you own, head back to your place to check it out. Or maybe you are loaning her a great book. Whatever. It gives you a reason to get her over. Often, the best way to get a girl to your place or to arrange future dates is to have a goal and reason to see each other more. Taking a girl home has the same logic as date arrangements.

                            Only inexperienced guys ask a girl, "Hey, want to go on a date?" They always suggest an activity, whether that be dinner, a movie, coffee, drinks, etc.. Another set up is to connect the date to an already established mutual interest during the conversation. Either way, you have an excuse to spend time together.

                            Question 2: Just be a good guy about it. Treat the girls well. I don't suggest 1 night stands with your ex's friends. Casual sexual friendships are fine. If the girl makes it a 1 nighter, it's not your fault, just don't go out with 1 nighter intent. Make where you stand clear. Be careful with multiple fuck buddies. You don't want a relationship right now, but you are open to the thought of dating someone down the road, or whatever. If the town is as small as you say, your ex will end up dating someone you know, so who cares? Go have fun.
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                            Last edited by CaptainJohnson; 04-02-2012, 12:14 PM.
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                            • #15
                              1) thanks for the great examples, the movie stuff is pretty much what i did with my ex 2) the problem is i will only live in this town for 3-9 months more, so its pretty hard not having the intent of one nighters or fuckbuddies :/ the only reason i would have for staying longer is that my ex falls for me again, which probably wont happen unless i both get awesome in bed and socially the cooles MF in the club, and i might need to learn dancing too, which wont happen so not even hoping. also the town isnt really that small what i meant with 500 active people is that there are 500 people actively going to clubs and are my age +-2 years thanks for the response
                              Initial measurements: 16x11 cm
                              Current measurements 18x12,5
                              Long term goal: 20x16 cm

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