Size Matters

[Trotsky slaying thedragon Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Trotsky slaying thedragon]

I'd like to link to an article by Rollo Tomassi on the blog Rational Male. In this post, "Size Matters" he essentially confirms the viewpoint understood by all men and dismissed by women - that Size matters because it's added genetic/status value to a mate. Women who need provisions (IE a stable good guy father) originally wanted to keep the discussion on genetic value of a mate hush-hush between them and their friends. By opening up and declaring point blank that size matters they would disqualify potential beta male providers on that basis. However, since the turn of this current century and the general feminization of society provisioning has become safer and easier to attain for women thus declaring unequivocally their preference for hot bods and big dicks isn't a problem because they can provide for themselves or the government will provide for them.

Women's liberation (feminism, all women's social movements in history) have been attempts at extracting value from men to increase the interests of women. Now that work is safe, food is plentiful, and peace has been achieved women can revert away from the beta model (nice guy, father figure, hard worker) into pure genetic lust (alpha overman).

So when you hear a woman say that "size doesn't matter" it's actually an echo from a culture or mood that wants a provider over a genetic alpha. IN the current culture which worships women (fat women are beautiful too!) and provides for them societally this echo is largely fading out to more openly selfish women who are also encouraged by society.

THe link is here and it's not commercial: Size Matters «

[donjelqer76 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close donjelqer76]

This is a load of garbage. Any article that generalizes any group ("women" in this case) will always be wrong. We are all individuals, regardless of gender, race or age. No matter the subject, there will always be those that reflect the subject, those that don't, and everything in between. Surely it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know this

[Trotsky slaying thedragon Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Trotsky slaying thedragon]

This is a load of garbage. Any article that generalizes any group ("women" in this case) will always be wrong. We are all individuals, regardless of gender, race or age. No matter the subject, there will always be those that reflect the subject, those that don't, and everything in between. Surely it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know this

The whole of social science was to identify trends within groups and populations. I could easily retort to you saying that "no man is an island" and we all share certain characteristics and beliefs that produce different results in the field of life.

What he's getting at is that there is a general feminization narrative that drives our culture. We are a female first culture for a variety of reasons. He wanted to show how some women could respond in a variety of contexts in order to better inform men about the nature of women. His blog is about showing men how to better their lives, whereas fem-centric narrative is about how to impoverish and eliminate. By showing the double-sided nature employed by some women we can come to a better conclusion about how females generally operate so in the sexual marketplace we can do better ourselves.

[donjelqer76 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close donjelqer76]

I understand that. Hell, I would even agree if someone could show me such a scientific trend, but it doesn't exist. That article is nothing more than the opinion of one man.

[Trotsky slaying thedragon Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Trotsky slaying thedragon]

Well I sure did write a post that is now completely gone.

It is the opinion of one man but it's informed. Anecdotes, experiences, and general feelings that fit together logically and make a persuasive case have value. Social trends and opinions based on logical conclusions are valuable.

[MikeShlort Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MikeShlort]

This is absolute rubbish! None of this is true at all, all women really want is to be cuddled and have the guy they had a crush on when they were 13 to marry them and live happily every after!

Oh, hold on a sec.... I know I'm retarded. But not that retarded.

Good post. That pretty much sums it all up. Women can have anything they want, so they take it. That's why losers like me sit and try not to jerk off! So many other social ladder climbers with nicer bodies, better jobs and bigger dicks, no need for a woman with options to settle with a guy like me. That's why you see good looking guys with fat chicks. Clearly there are better looking guys with more money and penis available, so unfortunately, no desirable girls for buddy!

It really pays to be a douche bag. Get yourself some tattoos, big sunglasses, get your haircut by someone with Downs Syndrome, wear a muscle shirt and act like you aren't just another turd emulating what you see on TV and you'll have the sexiest of the whores at your feet!

[MikeShlort Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MikeShlort]

Also, at what point is a man not a beta male? Once he is anything over 7.9x5.9?

[Steve23 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Steve23]

Oh look more insecure pointless stuff. Trotsky, you need to work out your insecurites and problems instead of seaching for stuff that destorys your confidence even more than it is now.


Oh, and if you want to bring up alpha and beta male talk, please don't mention penis size because alpha and beta has nothing to do with the size of your penis, but believe what you want.

[BigO AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close BigO]

Wow, I must be a well hung beta male according to all of this.

[Trotsky slaying thedragon Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Trotsky slaying thedragon]

Also, at what point is a man not a beta male? Once he is anything over 7.9x5.9?

Not quite the case. An alpha male with a small dick could conceivably be outfucked by a beta male with a big dick. An Alpha Male with a big dick = maximum sexual opportunity. Alpha traits tend to correlate with big-dickishness while small penised dudes are generally beta. This isn't a wash, though.

Getting a big dick solves a lot of problems. Getting money solves a lot of problems. Acting like an alpha solves a lot of problems. Combining them produces the maximum result.

The knock against "alpha" males by wimmin folk is precisely that it is actually a mask not highlighting their genetic opportunity. The reason why a woman will clamor for a beta male is that the beta male possesses a high value trait and doesn't stray. Average looking women who secure good looking and well dicked beta males are actually pursuing a successful strategy.

Let me put it this way: men have a "value" bar by which they are considered men. A dude with a 2 inch cock who is ridiculously alpha in all facets in life may be able to fill up the bar to where he is considered high value, but it's going to be a lot tougher for him than it would be with a guy with an appropriate 7 to 8 inch cock.

It's like an RPG; you have stats in stamina, intelligence, charisma, strength, beauty, and size (height and penis girth/length) and these constitute whether you are an alpha (good), beta (neutral/bad), or omega (should've been aborted).

A big dick /= automatic alpha

But a big dick DOES mean that you aren't omega (since you have SOMETHING of value).

[donjelqer76 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close donjelqer76]

Lol, comparing penis size to an RPG video game... That's one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever seen here. Hopefully everyone else reading this finds the same humor in it that I did!

[Trotsky slaying thedragon Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Trotsky slaying thedragon]

Lol, comparing penis size to an RPG video game... That's one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever seen here. Hopefully everyone else reading this finds the same humor in it that I did!

What's ridiculous about it? It's an analogy most people posting on this forum clearly recognize. You're trying to shut down this topic which highlights a genuine concern. I am applying my analysis.

Two dudes walk into a bar, one with X and the other with Y. X produces more orgasms and is more respected and has more perceived value while Y has traits that are less valuable. Which character do you want to play?

Ed: I am not making this post or this thread to condemn any type of man. I am not trying to say I am better than other men. I am not saying I'm an alpha or that I should be treated like one. The fact that this site exists is because it is an opportunity for men to become valuable when they are not. That's why I'm here.

[Pirate Retired AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Pirate]

I think your analysis inherently assumes that a larger penis equates to more orgasms. We have a whole lot of posts by females in direct contradiction to that position.
Do you have evidence to back up your assumption?

[Closed039 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Closed039]

I think your analysis inherently assumes that a larger penis equates to more orgasms. We have a whole lot of posts by females in direct contradiction to that position.
Do you have evidence to back up your assumption?

I think it goes to that "all else being equal" thing when we talk about big dick preference. We actually have touched on this many times before and the female members seem to equate a big dick as a "bonus" to go along with their man, though they wouldn't choose a big dicked ape over a man possessing other desirable qualities. I think the size debate just comes down to -and I cannot stress this enough, all else being equal - a big dick is preferable to a small one.

To take that into the alpha vs. beta analysis, it is probably fair to say that a handsome, wealthy, well-groomed, fit, genuinely nice guy with an average cock may be a 9 on overall desirability, but now substitute an "ideal" cock (whatever that size is, though presumably larger) and he is now a 10. Both are "alpha," though one gets a higher rating.

But it is a mistake to assume that the substitution of a big dick in for one of those other qualities is preferable or even acceptable for most women, though some may like it. I hope that makes sense.

[MikeShlort Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MikeShlort]

I think your analysis inherently assumes that a larger penis equates to more orgasms. We have a whole lot of posts by females in direct contradiction to that position.
Do you have evidence to back up your assumption?

3/4 of them are lying, the other 1/4 just haven't had a good experience with the few big penises they've encountered.