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    ...that PE may not be for me.

    I'm not bashing PE; I believe it works, but just like everything, some people just don't benefit from it. Unfortunately, it appears I am one of those people. Even before I got mono my EQ was questionable at best. Many report stronger EQ after starting PE; for me this just was not the case. Everything about me has stayed the same. The days where I think I have reported gains just turns out to be a good day for my unit to get an erection. I know the saying about PE "to see gains it takes time", and I'm not here complaining about not getting gains. It's just that over the year that I have PE'd, I've followed various schedules/techniques in order to find some form of a positive PI and to be honest, I've never gotten one...actually, I've never gotten a negative PI either.

    It's not the "no gains" part that concerns me, no, it's the "no positive PI" part that does. Flaccid hang/plumpness hasn't improved, EQ is still spotty, no morning wood, and I really have nothing of a sex drive.

    I've invested a lot of time and effort into PE, and I think that maybe it's time to move on...this isn't a "sure" thing right now, I need to take time to think this through. On one hand, there's too much evidence to suggest this doesn't work, but on the other hand, no positive PI's make me feel like this isn't for me.

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    Rib, you have all the signs of Hypogonadism. Have your Testosterone levels checked. Simple blood test.

    I've got a Tiger by the tail.

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    • #3
      You need to check your T levels.

      PE is mainly psychological. Having a flaccid hang is, believe it or not, partly psychological.

      Are you usually cold? Do you need to wear socks and sweaters at home so that you're not cold? Like me, you may have crappy circulation to your extremities. L Arginine helps.

      Also, make sure you heat up your cock randomly throughout the day.

      Take a very hot bath 2-3 times a week. This will improve your flaccid hang.

      There is a great variety of shit that can be wrong with you. Do you drink a lot? Alcohol reduces your T levels. Do you workout at the gym regularly?
      Radiohead
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      Last edited by Radiohead; 11-08-2009, 07:17 PM.
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      • #4
        Do you know where I can get my T-levels checked with a blood test? Any idea how much it would cost? I assume I should just go see a doctor...

        Thanks for the replies guys.

        Oh and Radiohead: I'm not usually cold...I can wear shorts in 40 degree weather and feel fine. I am planning on trying L Arginine however...

        I will try a hot bath a few times a week though...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by RIB2211 View Post
          Do you know where I can get my T-levels checked with a blood test? Any idea how much it would cost? I assume I should just go see a doctor...

          Thanks for the replies guys.

          Oh and Radiohead: I'm not usually cold...I can wear shorts in 40 degree weather and feel fine. I am planning on trying L Arginine however...

          I will try a hot bath a few times a week though...
          An endocrinologist can check your T levels.

          Hot baths shouldn't negatively affect your T levels.

          Have you done any concentrated stamina work along with your PE? If the EQ isn't there you're not going to gain.
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          • #6
            By concentrated stamina work do you mean edging? I edge usually on Sunday, and always on Tuesday and Thursday.

            I looked up an endocrinologist near me...the hard part is going to be talking to my dad. I mean, I'm 21...it's going to be hard to believe I'm suffering from something like this but I can't think of any other reason, seriously.

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            • #7
              I feel for you RIB. We need to get to the bottom of your situation. It's definitely a complex one. I don't know a whole heck of a lot about your PE career as far as what you have done, supplements, P.I.s, etc. I probably need to read over your entire progress log. Did you keep it detailed enough? Hopefully so...

              Like others have suggested, you need to get your test levels checked. It's a simple blood test. Your family doctor can fill out the request form and then you just take it into the hospital for the blood work. It should be a pretty quick and painless process. But while you are at your family doctor, you need to talk to him/her. Don't be embarrassed about this. He/She can probably help you. Seriously, keep it cool - "Doc, I seriously cannot get a good quality erection." You'd be amazed by the number of reasons this could be happening.

              What for supplements have you taken?
              Everyone dies...
              But not everyone lives

              HAPPY HOLIDAYS PE GYM!

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              • #8
                Thanks for you consistent help PESG!

                Supplements: Horny Goat Weed (powder form, not effective), KP's Erection Tea, Ginkgo, and Cayenne. I no longer take Cayenne and KP's erection tea.

                I'm about to try Zinc and L-Arginene

                Ugh, with all this talk about low t-levels and libido, I'm scarred out of my mind.
                RIB2211
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                Last edited by RIB2211; 11-08-2009, 07:52 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RIB2211 View Post
                  By concentrated stamina work do you mean edging? I edge usually on Sunday, and always on Tuesday and Thursday.

                  I looked up an endocrinologist near me...the hard part is going to be talking to my dad. I mean, I'm 21...it's going to be hard to believe I'm suffering from something like this but I can't think of any other reason, seriously.
                  just go , dont even tell your dad , when seeing a doctor its suppose to me confidential and its not even expensive i know there's a kit you can buy for about 100bux

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                  • #10
                    Low test levels is not something to lose sleep over bud.

                    Add Lecithin (1200mg super strength) to your supplement list if you're going to try some new stuff. Lecithin is a pretty high libido enhancer and it also makes you cum a lot more. If you can stomach a horrible taste for about 2 min, get the granules and crush it up in a protein shake. If not, just get the gelcaps. I took Lecithin after knee surgery because I could not get a boner over 50% erection level. I noticed a change in 2 days.

                    If you don't want to go to the doctor's, you can buy test boosters on body building sites. But go easy if that's the path you choose.
                    Everyone dies...
                    But not everyone lives

                    HAPPY HOLIDAYS PE GYM!

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                    • #11
                      Also, why don't you strongly consider backing your PE down to a very simple yet effective routine of: 10 minutes stretching, 10 minutes of jelqing?
                      Everyone dies...
                      But not everyone lives

                      HAPPY HOLIDAYS PE GYM!

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                      • #12
                        Shane: I need to tell my dad because I simply cannot afford a doctor's visit on my own...I was unemployed over the summer and lived off my reserves, so now I only have $100 to my name and I'm saving it for emergencies. I can't get a job right now because of football but the moment this season is over, I'm finding something for money...

                        PESG: That's actually my plan. I'm dropping my routine down to the basic beginner routine, 10 minute warm-up, 6 minutes of stretching, 10 minute jelqing, 8 minute warm-down. I will definitely look into Lecithin, thank you for the tip!

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                        • #13
                          just tell your dad you need to take a physical for foot ball and during it tell the doc about your problem

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                          • #14
                            Rib do you still have Mono???? IF so do not take arginine. Mononucleousis a virus feeds on arginine. You need to take L caritine and Lysine. if you still have mono.

                            Even if you take cayenne it wont help much with mono.


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                            • #15
                              I have to get blood tested this week to clear me of mono, but I'm pretty sure I'm past it. I had it for about two weeks I think before I was finally diagnosed.

                              I took Cayenne long before I had mono and did not experience anything. I think that when you have low libido, things like Cayenne just don't affect you...

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