Theory about why PEGym is fake

[persistent91 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close persistent91]

There's one thing I don't understand. Why wouldn't he try it for like a month and see if it works? Today is my 18th day of JP 90 and my flaccid is already noticeably bigger, not to mention things other than size. It sure would be easier, if he just did that and if he had zero results, then wrote...stuff. He seems like a smart and literate guy, yet I can't understand his writing.

NOW, after we had a 3-month debate (not me and I'm glad I wasn't here), he must apologize if he tries it.

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

There's one thing I don't understand. Why wouldn't he try it for like a month and see if it works? Today is my 18th day of JP 90 and my flaccid is already noticeably bigger, not to mention things other than size. It sure would be easier, if he just did that and if he had zero results, then wrote...stuff. He seems like a smart and literate guy, yet I can't understand his writing.

NOW, after we had a 3-month debate (not me and I'm glad I wasn't here), he must apologize if he tries it.

There could be a psychological mechanism behind it. It was commonly termed the "sour grapes" outlook- see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fo...ive_dissonance for an explanation.

[Gyrta Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Gyrta]

Here's a solid proof of administrators and mods giving their true opinion and not a biased opinion. If they were trying to sell something they would argue that he had to buy the questioned products to gain:

https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-d...air-pump.html#

Case closed?

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

As someone who works in the male enhancement industry, I'll tell anyone who's skeptical to save their money and do the research first. There's more than enough data and assistance just on this forum alone that can help anyone make an educated decision and get them started training with confidence- all without having to spend a dime.

[musclekub Member Find all posts View Profile Close musclekub]

Hello! My personal experience from PEGym is that it may be working but there is no evidence about it and that is maybe why i'm sceptical sometimes. No offense now, just making a point. I don't want it to sound like i'm talking rubbish about this site. But i will act like a non-believer in this case.

Theory: What if this website is just very very smart marketing/advertising, and some of the users are getting payed to keep it running and act like people with big knowledge about the subject and spread nonsense just to keep people sceptical enough to buy the pumps/extenders. Basically this site is telling people to buy extenders/hanging products/pumps etc in a very smart discreet way. This site is making people buy and try out these pumps/extenders. The companies selling those products is also making deals with the PEGym site. They have their pumps on the website as advertising and discounts etc. It's basically like manipulating someone to buy the products in a discreet way. I mean, this site is very beneficial for the companies selling pumps/extenders.

The only thing actually making your penis bigger is in the end "keegels", not all the stretches etc. Keegels is actually scientifically proven to make your erections better/bigger/stronger.

And also they taking advantage of how your penis drastically can change in size from day to day, depending on erection quality. All this could possibly just be a trick and very good discreet advertising for pump/extender products. I was very close to buy a pump myself actually. And as the increase and such are so minimal, there is enough time to keep you busy being sceptical all the time.

And some people really say: "It doesn't work for me". Your answer is: It doesn't work for everyone."
Why wouldn't it work for everyone? If PEGym worked, it should work for everyone no mather what. The penises are almost built the same way. It's just easy to say: "It doesn't work for everyone" "Your routine maybe doesn't suit you". It's just so easy to say to make rid of those non believers. This site is very well thought in the beginning to work as discreet advertising without anyone notice anything. Some accounts are obviously fake aswell, like all the big names. They know this is fake and getting paid to lie about all this. They also say that 3months is just for conditioning, and some make gains. The people making gains is just making gains from better EQ cause of "keegels", not cause of the stretches etc. And the companies also know that some people would do anything for a bigger penis as fast as possible, and that is what the companies are playing on. Everything takes so much time that you lose your patience and buys this extender/pump or whatever it is to see if works for you.

I could tell so much more in a better and more complex way, but i lack enough english skills. I hope you get what i'm sayin' here, and i will let you think about it yourself for a while.

Give me arguments that tell me the opposite, that what i'm saying is wrong and that PEGym actually works. I will fire back!

I was doing PE for 4 years until giving up last November. I have tried almost everything from manual routines, hanging to extender and even my horrific chemical PE experiment that almost killed my dick--and I am still not 100% recovered from the injection nightmare.

After four years, I gained nothing but lots and lots of foreskin.

While I tend to believe that PE should work in theory, I am not 100% convinced that PE actually does work for everyone. I called myself an extreme hard-gainer only because I would like to think that there is a possibility for me to gain. But now, I am torn to believe that PE actually does work.

Many "big claims" of 1 inch gain or 2 inch gains are not documented with proper measuring photos. I do believe that PE practice can improve EQ tremendously if done right, but if someone already starts off with stellar erection quality, I am not convinced that PE can actually help you gain length.

I am probably wrong... oh well... that is my experience of PE.

[Marlon LGHanger Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Marlon LGHanger]

Hello! My personal experience from PEGym is that it may be working but there is no evidence about it and that is maybe why i'm sceptical sometimes. No offense now, just making a point. I don't want it to sound like i'm talking rubbish about this site. But i will act like a non-believer in this case.

Theory: What if this website is just very very smart marketing/advertising, and some of the users are getting payed to keep it running and act like people with big knowledge about the subject and spread nonsense just to keep people sceptical enough to buy the pumps/extenders. Basically this site is telling people to buy extenders/hanging products/pumps etc in a very smart discreet way. This site is making people buy and try out these pumps/extenders. The companies selling those products is also making deals with the PEGym site. They have their pumps on the website as advertising and discounts etc. It's basically like manipulating someone to buy the products in a discreet way. I mean, this site is very beneficial for the companies selling pumps/extenders.

The only thing actually making your penis bigger is in the end "keegels", not all the stretches etc. Keegels is actually scientifically proven to make your erections better/bigger/stronger.

And also they taking advantage of how your penis drastically can change in size from day to day, depending on erection quality. All this could possibly just be a trick and very good discreet advertising for pump/extender products. I was very close to buy a pump myself actually. And as the increase and such are so minimal, there is enough time to keep you busy being sceptical all the time.

And some people really say: "It doesn't work for me". Your answer is: It doesn't work for everyone."
Why wouldn't it work for everyone? If PEGym worked, it should work for everyone no mather what. The penises are almost built the same way. It's just easy to say: "It doesn't work for everyone" "Your routine maybe doesn't suit you". It's just so easy to say to make rid of those non believers. This site is very well thought in the beginning to work as discreet advertising without anyone notice anything. Some accounts are obviously fake aswell, like all the big names. They know this is fake and getting paid to lie about all this. They also say that 3months is just for conditioning, and some make gains. The people making gains is just making gains from better EQ cause of "keegels", not cause of the stretches etc. And the companies also know that some people would do anything for a bigger penis as fast as possible, and that is what the companies are playing on. Everything takes so much time that you lose your patience and buys this extender/pump or whatever it is to see if works for you.

I could tell so much more in a better and more complex way, but i lack enough english skills. I hope you get what i'm sayin' here, and i will let you think about it yourself for a while.

Give me arguments that tell me the opposite, that what i'm saying is wrong and that PEGym actually works. I will fire back!

I understand your skepticism, and would agree with you about some of the marketing relationships that the PE Gym has with certain device manufacturers. Money is the motivation. The more you have to spend the more advertisement your particular device will get on the website headliner.

I have routinely pointed out the ineffectiveness of several devices. All one need to do is look at the various threads that are posted about extenders to know they don't work very well. At best they are a mediocre ADS. Just look at how many guys are trying to sell them!

However when it comes to making bonafide PE gains, I can only vouch for my own personal experience. Which has been tremendously successful. I have before and after photos to verify. I believe there is a tremendous amount of knowledge to be gleaned from a hand full of PE Gym moderators!

As to why some guys make progress and others don't....
There are too many variables to consider. In my opinion the main one is genetics, how you train, what you train with and your level of dedication.
When I use the term genetics, I use it in it's broadest sense. What did God give you to work with? I have watched guys come and go from the gym for years. Do the same thing month in and month out and never see one iota of change in body composition. The penis is a complex organ. Nobody can know how thick their suspensory ligament is, or how dense their tunica is. Those seem to be the limiting factors when it comes to penis enlargement.

That said, I do believe every man can make gains! The measure of any gains you can make is unknown, but do you walk through life wondering what you could have achieved? Or do you over come doubt with tenacious hard work and a positive "can do" attitude? Live fish swim upstream!

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Apples & Oranges, opinions everywhere.

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

Hello! My personal experience from PEGym is that it may be working but there is no evidence about it and that is maybe why i'm sceptical sometimes. No offense now, just making a point. I don't want it to sound like i'm talking rubbish about this site. But i will act like a non-believer in this case...

This forum does have representatives for products and services, but the titles in their profiles are on display with each post. There are moderators and admins who keep watch for possible "non-approved" advertising.

Besides kegels, there's documented evidence for penis enlargement with devices like extenders. There's also plenty of soft tissue science that would support PE. The studies are out there if that's what you need to convince you.

I'm not familiar with your training experience, but if you have little to none then all of the theorizing and forum posting won't do anything to make your penis larger or more efficient. Only by actually training will you be able to test whether or not it works.