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    Hello.

    Before I start with me, I'm intrigued by something I encountered on my way to this sub-forum - female members! I'd think this would be the one place that most women wouldn't want to bother with (size fetishists aside). I haven't gotten to reading their hows and whys yet, and I'm uncertain if I'm comfortable doing so - yeah, it's a size thing.

    Okay, the technical details - 40 year old cis-het Caucasian male, 5'6 (168cm), 72kg (160 pounds), not the Elephant Man but definitely got a face for telegraph (Radio requiring too much publicity for it's stars). I am uncircumcised, and aside from a few vain attempts in high school to figure out what my length was, I've never measured myself. All I know is that I'm small. The few women I've been involved with have never said anything bad about it at the time, although two have said post-breakup that they guys they left me for were bigger. Between that and the impossible standards of modern pornography, it's hard (pun intended) for a guy not to feel inadequate.

    Okay, the long sordid history. Erections were something I recall from a young age. So much so, that when I started getting a sore penis around age 7, and my parents took me to a specialist, I told the doctor that sometimes I got hard, which he dismissed at the time. I know I felt dismissed because I though the erections were a problem too. Turns out the sore penis was urine getting trapped under the foreskin, or something like that. If I ever have a son I'll be arguing very hard for him to get the snip - no man should ever have to have the indignity of a uncircumcised penis, because most women prefer the head all nice an exposed. Throughout my teen years I was pretty much invisible to women as an object manhood, but, and here's the freaky part - I didn't masturbate. Seriously, I didn't even think to touch it. I'm not sure if it was some holdover from Catholic shame, or that I figured it was what a woman was supposed to help me with, or something else entirely, but masturbation just didn't occur to me. I knew about it, but figured that was something other guys did. I got hard all the time, and I had a massive collection of dirty magazines, but some connection just didn't occur.

    This went on into university and my first girlfriend, who I wasn't attracted to and basically used me to boost her flagging ego and 'give the nerd a pity-fuck'. Needless to say, I didn't ejaculate for her either. I was worried I was gay, despite not getting aroused by guys. I was still otherwise invisible to women, so I was unhappy about that too. Even after the breakup (her moving away and moving on) messed with me. Another girlfriend a couple of years later helped a LOT. An older woman, we connected in our own way, and she took great pleasure in getting me to ejaculate for the first time. It was AWESOME!!!! It took our breakup for me to finally figure out how to do it for myself. It was fun and all, but it was a lot more fun when a woman was involved. Throughout my twenties my lack of adventures continued, and in the end I some ended up married to a woman I met online, and again was not very attracted to. I was of the belief that if she wanted to be with me she would change, and that if I was meant to be with her, I'd come to find her attractive. Turns out that isn't the case. I turned to using webporn to deal with my issues, and all that entails. We've definitely had a lot less sex than a married couple should, and when I do get erect, I hardly ever ejaculate. This was happening before we got married (after a couple of days of meeting, in fact), but I thought it was just me being useless, and that I could overcome it.

    Last summer, I started realising something was wrong. The neighbours had a cute pet-sitter who liked to sunbathe naked in the backyard, but when I saw it, I was mentally interested but physically nothing happened. I started to wonder what was wrong, and in time became more and more concerned. I was realising that as much as I might care about my wife, sexually there was nothing going on there - and I'd spent the better years of a guy's life not doing the things I really should be doing. I started reading forums and books, and came across the NoFap community (yeah, I'm one of those guys). Aside from a slip-up in late April I haven't whacked off to webporn since 2 March this year. I'd make the argument that I'm still in recovery, but steps need to be taken. Since that time, I've altered my diet, started going to the gym, lost roughly 20kg (45lbs) and looked at how to confront some issues in my life. My wife and I are attending couples therapy, and while it would be nice to save our marriage, I have to be honest that it's hard to be attracted to a lazy slob who doesn't make an effort in anything that isn't 'fun' and benefits her (a guy, almost), who I'm pretty certain I married primarily because she was a woman who was interested in me.

    I still have no confidence, despite the claims made to the contrary by NoFappers. My erections still aren't as regular as I would like, but as I'm not looking at porn (or masturbating), I'm not sure exactly how to tackle that either (maybe I'm an old guy, or maybe I'm just not meant to reproduce). I don't have much of a penis, but I'd like to at least have a decent-sized one so, that, if I ever get it regularly-working again, and somehow find someone I want to have sex with, she'll at least not have something mediocre inside her.

    So, there you have it. Any insights, places to start, or Hell, even mockery, leave it below.
    06 August 2018 - BPEL 13.7cm (foreskin on), Erect Girth: 13cm

    - Bigger Penis, please

    - Seeing if I can make gains without ejaculating

    - Confidence would be nice too, but let's be reasonable here

  • #2
    I guess I should also what I'm already doing, to see if that helps.

    Kegels.

    I'm doing Kegels pretty much every day. Contracting for 10 seconds, releasing for seconds, repeating for 10-15 minutes, 3-5 times a day. There's a point where the contractions become barely noticeable, but I persevere. I'm lucky that my job allows me stretches where I can sit and watch a clock, so that's what I do - contract and release, watching the seconds tick away.
    06 August 2018 - BPEL 13.7cm (foreskin on), Erect Girth: 13cm

    - Bigger Penis, please

    - Seeing if I can make gains without ejaculating

    - Confidence would be nice too, but let's be reasonable here

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    • #3
      Hey bro, welcome to the GYM. Glad to have you here. Best advice I can give you right now is to consider you joining the community a new chapter. Set aside all pretenses, ease your mind and worry. Commit to a routine, follow it religiously and create a progress log in the Progress forum. Doing so will allow other members to help you along the way since we can see what you have been doing. PE can change your life. There's a lot of wisdom here among the community, heed our advice and ask questions. You'll do a lot of taking initially but I encourage you to give back once you've hit breakthroughs and garnished wisdom of your own from your journey. Be sure to read the articles in the START HERE! link at the top left of the website before you do anything else. Wishing you success and a safe jouney.
      Progress Log | Extender Progress Log
      Recommended Routine
      2016 (5 1/2 x 4 1/2) > 2017 (7 5/8 x 5 5/8) > 2020 (8 x 5 3/4) > Oct 2021 (7 1/2 x 5 3/4)
      BPEL Gains: 2.5" | MEG Gains: 1.25"

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      • #4
        Hey Traceur!

        Welcome to the Gym

        It would be a good idea to click on the Start Here button at the top left of the page. Lots of good information on what the Gym is all about, including best practices and safety tips.

        It is always recommended to start with a beginners routine (doesn't have to be the JP) and continue with it for 90 days or until you stop gaining. Start slowly and build up to the full routine over a few weeks.

        Jelq with an erection level between 40 and 70%. Do not grip too tight, just enough to feel blood moving up the shaft. When stretching, grab your shaft about one inch below the glans and do not pull too hard, just enough to to feel a slight stretch. Let your PIs be your guide as to how hard to pursue.

        Dont forget to take good starting measurements and photos so you have a solid base to compare your gains to.

        PE safely and good luck with your endeavors.
        Valued Member of 12+ years at the PEGym
        12/'09 (start) NBP EL - 4.5, EG - 4.4
        12/11 NBPEL - 5.1, MSEG - 5
        01/13 NBPEL - 5.35, MSEG - 5.1
        01/14 NBPEL - 5.35, MSEG - 5.25
        01/16 NBPEL - 5.4, MSEG - 5.5
        Fat Pad = 1+/-

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        • #5
          Thank you both for your quick responses. As someone that, while I wouldn't use the term porn-addict, is someone who currently abstaining from PMO (Pornography->Masturbation->Orgasm), or indeed any masturbation at present, is there some path someone could suggest that would assist me in keeping strong to these goals? I'm not too concerned about 'exercises' at this point, but I am worried not even getting hard when trying to, or about 'going too far' and having a sticky situation. Sure it's just a bit of dirty fun, but these are concerns I have.

          Also, again, the women issue - anyone got an answer for that? I know where the g-spot is and always have that in my 'game plan'. Clitorati should be enjoyed by guys more. I'm half-tempted to start a thread over there posing my questions to them, but I didn't want to be rude on my first day.

          Update: okay, I've bitten the bullet and gone and started a question over there to see if I can get an answer.

          Also, once and for all, is there some guidelines somewhere for formal measuring? Assuming I can get to a point where I'm actually able to get an erection (and maybe even maintain it) what are the rules for measuring? Am I the only guy who has a number of different erections, based on firmness, length, girth, etc.

          Sorry, but I've never had a lot of friends in my life, and when most guys are sorting this sort of stuff out I was making earnest attempts to avoid chocolate swirlies.
          Traceur77
          Member
          Last edited by Traceur77; 08-05-2018, 02:14 AM.
          06 August 2018 - BPEL 13.7cm (foreskin on), Erect Girth: 13cm

          - Bigger Penis, please

          - Seeing if I can make gains without ejaculating

          - Confidence would be nice too, but let's be reasonable here

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          • #6
            Dayum. Somebody else actually from Brissy? Welcome, brother.

            As far as I know, there aren't any rules to measuring. Place the ruler against your pubic area, push it in as firmly as you can tolerate--without feeling pain, of course--and measure. Do your best to keep the ruler straight, as having it angled either up or down will skew a proper measurement.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Light Metal View Post
              Dayum. Somebody else actually from Brissy? Welcome, brother.
              Thank you for your kind welcome. Despite being born here, I've lived in other places, which has opened my eyes. The whole North/South argument is a moot point to me - you're still in fucking Brisbane, with all the tribalism and sports madness and lack of forethought one gets with this city!

              Originally posted by Light Metal View Post
              As far as I know, there aren't any rules to measuring. Place the ruler against your pubic area, push it in as firmly as you can tolerate--without feeling pain, of course--and measure. Do your best to keep the ruler straight, as having it angled either up or down will skew a proper measurement.
              Thank you! It's a little odd for a 40 year old guy to be asking this, but I'll see what I can do about getting numbers, starting a progress log and making notes.
              06 August 2018 - BPEL 13.7cm (foreskin on), Erect Girth: 13cm

              - Bigger Penis, please

              - Seeing if I can make gains without ejaculating

              - Confidence would be nice too, but let's be reasonable here

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Traceur77 View Post
                Thank you for your kind welcome. Despite being born here, I've lived in other places, which has opened my eyes. The whole North/South argument is a moot point to me - you're still in fucking Brisbane, with all the tribalism and sports madness and lack of forethought one gets with this city!
                You're welcome. lol I know, I know. The way some people talk, it's like Brisbane's two cities or something weird--like north and south are so different, they might as well be separated.

                Originally posted by Traceur77
                Thank you! It's a little odd for a 40 year old guy to be asking this, but I'll see what I can do about getting numbers, starting a progress log and making notes.
                Don't feel odd, Trac. Seriously, I went through a period (this was after I'd been doing PE for about nine to ten months) where I thought I was measuring all wrong. I thought I was fudging my measurements with the ruler pointed either slightly up or down, but after watching myself measure in a mirror, I calmed down, and realised everything was cool. Crisis averted.

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                • #9
                  Welcome to the forum!

                  Have you ever undertaken any Stamina Training? This could be very helpful as far as physical conditioning is concerned.
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                  • #10
                    First of all, thank you for responding to my thread.

                    No, I haven't thought about that. As I've said, I'm still reading through a lot of these things and figuring out how and where to start. I accept that any place I start will require a good deal of time investment on my part, and regardless of any gains I may make (I'm skeptical, but I'm a pessimist by nature), I'm currently at a point where I can't even guarantee an erection without using porn (which is something I gave up months ago). Given that I didn't ejaculate until I was 21, I'm less than happy with what I have, even discounting comments from women (which HAVE happened).

                    More reading to do - but first, gym.
                    06 August 2018 - BPEL 13.7cm (foreskin on), Erect Girth: 13cm

                    - Bigger Penis, please

                    - Seeing if I can make gains without ejaculating

                    - Confidence would be nice too, but let's be reasonable here

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                    • #11
                      You're most welcome!

                      It might be a good idea for you to review the following: The Detraining Effect: Understanding and Reversing Negative Habits To Improve Erection Quality and Sexual Confidence
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                      • #12
                        Thank you for the posts, Big Al. I've covered a lot of this in the path I've already taken to reach this point, and a lot were conclusions I reached on my own without any research.

                        Frankly, I'm more concerned at present with beginning any kind of training simply because I'm concerned of having a relapse - even if it's just blowing my load. It took a lot of willpower just for me to relax enough to get a measurement, and I'm uncertain if, even at this point in my recovery, that I can get something resembling an erection.
                        06 August 2018 - BPEL 13.7cm (foreskin on), Erect Girth: 13cm

                        - Bigger Penis, please

                        - Seeing if I can make gains without ejaculating

                        - Confidence would be nice too, but let's be reasonable here

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Traceur77 View Post
                          Thank you for the posts, Big Al. I've covered a lot of this in the path I've already taken to reach this point, and a lot were conclusions I reached on my own without any research.

                          Frankly, I'm more concerned at present with beginning any kind of training simply because I'm concerned of having a relapse - even if it's just blowing my load. It took a lot of willpower just for me to relax enough to get a measurement, and I'm uncertain if, even at this point in my recovery, that I can get something resembling an erection.
                          You're most welcome!

                          Develop a solid foundation of conditioning and good EQ, then slowly ease your way into enlargement specific training. As long as you're prudent with your efforts you should do well.
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                          • #14
                            Prudent may as well be my middle name. I understand the need for a long-term mindset, and I've wrapped up my 'work' here into something I refer to as the October Protocol. If, by 30 October 2019 I haven't made noticeable (to me) progress (both here and at the gym), a period of serious introspection and analysis will be undertaken.

                            Is that too short a time-frame to expect results? October next year?
                            Traceur77
                            Member
                            Last edited by Traceur77; 08-07-2018, 05:07 PM.
                            06 August 2018 - BPEL 13.7cm (foreskin on), Erect Girth: 13cm

                            - Bigger Penis, please

                            - Seeing if I can make gains without ejaculating

                            - Confidence would be nice too, but let's be reasonable here

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Traceur77 View Post
                              Prudent may as well be my middle name. I understand the need for a long-term mindset, and I've wrapped up my 'work' here into something I refer to as the October Protocol. If, by 30 October 2019 I haven't made noticeable (to me) progress (both here and at the gym), a period of serious introspection and analysis will be undertaken.

                              Is that too short a time-frame to expect results? October next year?
                              That should be good enough time to make a substantial change in your conditioning.
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